Give us a touchscreen. Give us a super thin MacBook Pro 17". Give us back the USB jacks, SD card slot, and the magsafe power cord, I'm sick of carrying a bag of dongles! The touch bar is silly compromise for a touch screen.
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Apple's Mac Sales Stagnant in Q2 2017 Amid Continuing Worldwide PC Market Decline
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Personally,
I hate the keyboard (MBP, MB) and lack of SD card reader
I hate the keyboard (MBP, MB) and lack of SD card reader
So HP and Dell have had pops int heir sales, and everyone else has dropped. ICK! I've had the worst luck with Dell equipment, and I have an expensive HP system that has 8 vertical bars on the screen and I can't get them to go away so I can see the screen. Apparently it was a 'helpful' Windows Update driver update. Thanks Microstuff...
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But SD cards are 'a world of hurt'...
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But SD cards are 'a world of hurt'...
I guess SD cards + Adapters are a couple of worlds of hurt
I have a Surface Pro 3 and I really love it, but I'm gonna be honest, I hardly touch screen, I hardly use the pen too. Unless there is a specific need for it like maybe using a industry app that works great with Touch, its honestly more of a check box option. Microsoft needed to have something that could compete with the iPad.
One thing you can definitely say about the iPad, its a touch first mobile operating system. While Windows 10 is certainly optimized for touch, I still feel comfortable using it mostly with keyboard and mouse. There haven't been any moments where I say, oh, I want to lay down in bed or on the couch and use my Surface. I prefer doing that with my iPhone. A Tablet or Laptop is just unwieldy in such scenarios.
Then what are the reasons for the rest of the ENTIRE pc market decline? While macs stayed stagnant. Hmmmm..
Same. The new keyboard is unusable. I've got a 128GiB SD card always inside my 2015 rMBP as slower storage for large files. Saves my life.
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Or just forget both the touch screen and the touch bar.
As a 20+ year IT Veteran, Dell is utter garbage. Always has been and probably always will be. Lenovo Thinkpads are tanks and probably one of the most durable "normal" laptops.
HP is decent and the Spectre x360 I bought in January is every bit as good as a Macbook AND has a touchscreen and pen. It's what Apple should have done if they were actually visionaries.
As much as it pains me to say it, even Win10 has been good to me so far for the past 6 months.
there's a whole lot of weirdness going on in this thread.
acting like there was some dramatic failure or loss.
Yes, Apple didn't hit some new milestone, or some record numbers. They held exactly where they were before.
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Good for them. they sold 4.2 million laptops in a quarter. they're still one of the leading companies in laptop sales.
why the hostility.
If you believe Apple, or ANY COMPANY can post records year after year to infinitude, you're insane. This is business. It is cyclical. you don't need record profits every year. This focus on wallstreet and profiteering is getting quite scary
acting like there was some dramatic failure or loss.
Yes, Apple didn't hit some new milestone, or some record numbers. They held exactly where they were before.
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Good for them. they sold 4.2 million laptops in a quarter. they're still one of the leading companies in laptop sales.
why the hostility.
If you believe Apple, or ANY COMPANY can post records year after year to infinitude, you're insane. This is business. It is cyclical. you don't need record profits every year. This focus on wallstreet and profiteering is getting quite scary
The TB MBProfit was made for you, how cool is that? you can set a snark statement shortcut on your TB, type less & look cooler while fingering it.
I don't get it, laptop market shrinking, tablet market shrinking, desktop market shrinking...do people just want phones, phones, and more phones?
you acting like its only tim cooks fault. If i recall under steve jobs we had the same issue.
People are finally realizing that Apple is just bending them over when it comes to prices on sub par laptops and desktops. For 15 years, all the computers I have purchased have been Apple. Today I finally purchased a non-Apple DIY computer, for about $1600, and it knocks the socks off anything Apple has. Apple will continue to be amazing for iPhones, but they are certainly pushing people away from computers. It's too bad for us computer geeks.
Not sure I buy that argument for several reasons:
1. Most PCs are powerful enough that a new model doesn't offer a noticeable performance increase so your existing one is good enough to last another year. Sure, for specific uses a speed increase or more RAM etc. is worth the investment but that part of the market is small compared to the average user.
2. Most user never crack open the case let alone consider an upgrade to existing components. Even those who often simply move the bottleneck to other non upgraded components.
ANNECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
I used to build an upgrade my own machines, but know my 2 year old MBP still meets my needs so there is no compelling feature that makes buying a new one justifiable, for me. I know someone starting grad school and I will replace their HDD with an SSD because that will address the slow startup, app launch and file access issues for a fraction of the cost of a new machine. He will primarily use it for writing papers and surfing the web so besides the smaller size there is no reason to replace a perfectly useful 6 year old MBP.
PCs have reached the point of incremental improvements so for most users a quick cost/benefit analysis results in keeping the older machine. Add in the improvements in tablets so they can replace carrying a laptop for many uses makes upgrading even less compelling. You can buy a new SSD and iPad Pro for half the cost and get a much better user experience than buying a replacement MBP, IMHO.
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I use mine to backup all my documents so if something happens to the original or my MBP dies I still have all work files and just need to get my MBP fixed or buy a replacement if on the road. What I really want is for Apple to lend or rent replacements while in is being fixed. I'd pay extra on Applecare for that option.
Different market dynamics; phones tend to be viewed as disposable devices especially since carriers will either underwrite the cost or you can buy one from Apple and get a new one every year so consumers don't see the actual cost up front.
The PC market declined as a whole and Mac sales stayed the same. It's not a success, but I wouldn't call it a failure like many in here are saying.
Anything short of a blowout is a failure and a blow out is due to pent up demand. There's always some excuse as to why Apple products aren't any good.
Anything short of a blowout is a failure and a blow out is due to pent up demand. There's always some excuse as to why Apple products aren't any good.
Honestly I don't get why they post these numbers now. Wait 2 months until school starts back up and then see how sales do. I imaging the beginning of the school year is the biggest month for computer sales.
Software is the soul of hardware. Apple is doomed after they abandoned their legendary UI of Mac OS X and iOS since 10.10 Yosimite and iOS 7.
Some people can get by with just a phone.
But other people bought 60 million computers last quarter.
The truth is... there are a billion people using computers these days. And there are also a billion different schedules for when to replace them. It's not a science.
These charts offer little information outside of raw sales/shipment numbers. They don't say anything about this:
A person might only buy a new computer once every 3-5 years. But people buy computers every day.
It might not be as many as it used to be... but that could be due to computers being better and lasting longer.