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OnePlus Qi Fast charger stand (20 watt) is available for for $60. My iPhone 11 Pro Max gets charged really fast. I don't want to get into iPhone 12 series with lots of such limitations(No charger in addition). MagSafe accessories or for that matter any accessory from Apple is a big no for me. Right now they make life good only for the stock holders......customers seems to be the third or fourth priority
 
MagSafe aka The Crystal Skull, soiling treasured memories of something once revered.
I like your post although the reference to Crystal Skull eludes me. Anywho, I feel the same way about Apple as a whole. Seemingly, there's very little that Apple tests anymore. They just build something and throw it out there; some sticks, some don't, who cares, and they move on.
 
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I like your post although I've never heard of the term, Crystal Skull. Anywho, I feel the same way about Apple as a whole. Seemingly, there's very little that Apple tests anymore. They just build something and throw it out there; some sticks, some don't, who cares, and they move on.

I was referencing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

I loved the old Indy films*, I still love and use MagSafe on my old 2013 MBP. Both MagSafe and the terrible Indy 4 have sullied my memories of both though :( :)

*Temple of Doom wasn’t great imo and doesn’t hold up. Raiders and Lost Ark are still tremendous!
 
Magsafe Duo is a great concept by design, it’s literally the only Magsafe accessory I would buy. It’s just priced way too high, and apparent limitations make it even worse purchase. More like Apple sells us a beta testing product at a full price.

I would pay $79 for this (with no brick included) or $99 (with the brick). Not any single more dime.
That is what I thought when I saw it. Particularly cool to take on trips and have both chargers in one. Then I learned it costs 150 euros and does not even come with a power source. To me, the reduced charging power is irrelevant. I normally charge my phone with the lightning cable when I am on a rush or overnight using a Qi charger that I doubt delivers more than 5W anyway. But I paid about 5-10 euros for it, so I get what I paid for.
 
I was referencing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

I loved the old Indy films*, I still love and use MagSafe on my old 2013 MBP. Both MagSafe and the terrible Indy 4 have sullied my memories of both though :( :)

*Temple of Doom wasn’t great imo and doesn’t hold up. Raiders and Lost Ark are still tremendous!
YEP, I still have my 2007 MacBook Pro with MagSafe, although I don't use it anymore. It now resides in the boneyard of my closet along with my still pristine MacPro in factory packaging. It's more impressive today than before, as it was the first Intel-based Mac.
 
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YEP, I still have my 2007 MacBook Pro with MagSafe, although I don't use it anymore. It now resides in the boneyard of my closet along with my still pristine MacPro in factory packaging.

Nice! I too have a graveyard of old products going back decades that I will never use, never sell and never throw out. Ridiculous!
 
I don't get the issue with this.This is mostly going to be used as a bedside charger I would think so what does it matter how fast it charges? What's the hurry to get your iPhones charged? If you can't put it down for a couple of hours or so whilst it charges then you have a serious problem.
 
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just wish they made normal QI charging 15w like android, MagSafe is silly
 
This is really turning into one long, bad, expensive joke.

How many adapters will we need just to power anything from Apple anymore? And here I thought they were so "concerned" about the environmental impact, yet they're just adding more useless clutter and adapters and dongles and this and that, that in 2-3 years will end up in the waste bin.
 
This is really turning into one long, bad, expensive joke.

How many adapters will we need just to power anything from Apple anymore? And here I thought they were so "concerned" about the environmental impact, yet they're just adding more useless clutter and adapters and dongles and this and that, that in 2-3 years will end up in the waste bin.
When the iPad Pro went usb-c, I promised myself I wouldn’t buy another lightning port device. This proved to be very limiting as time moved on.

I travel a lot. Having a single plug type (and fast charging) is way more convenient than.... whatever Apple has planned.
 
Astonished people thought using a "wireless" puck would not incur significant power losses. Oh well.
 
I knew that iPhone charging would be less than 15 watts with two items on charge utilising a 20 watt plug. I was hoping this would be available for my short break to a different coastal town in two weeks time. At least the single MagSafe Charger will arrive before my flight out. I like the MagSafe Duo's compact size and how it folds closed compared to my flatbed Mophie Qi chargers, two possess an adapter bigger than my MacBook Pro's. This will reduce the amount of plugs, cable tangle and bulk in my mobile ITC bag plus with wireless charging devices the laying down and lifting is easy. My partner and I are really hoping we receive the MagSafe Duo Chargers prior to Christmas. I check Apple Store twice a day, minimum hoping I can, 'Add To Bag' very soon.
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I don't get the issue with this.This is mostly going to be used as a bedside charger I would think so what does it matter how fast it charges? What's the hurry to get your iPhones charged? If you can't put it down for a couple of hours or so whilst it charges then you have a serious problem.

It will make a poor bedside charger as, unless you use both hands, you will lift up both the phone, the charger and your Watch at the same time.

MagSafe is a series of very poorly thought through design decisions. Individually, some of the issues may not be a big deal, but cumulatively MagSafe is a bag of hurt.

-expensive (itself not a huge surprise, this is Apple, I like Apple, I spend a lot of money on their products)
-slow charging Duo
-requires specific chargers for more money
-leaves marks on cases
-needs 2 hands for removal (an issue that is dependent on usage)
-dubious magnetic strength for the application (wallet, car mount)
-probably other issues I’ve either forgotten or will be revealed next week. Stay tuned!

It’s fine if some people, nonetheless, like it for their specific use. I saw one pic of magsafe used in a car tray, laid flat. Looked ideal! However, to deny it’s riddled with flaws across the range is crazy.

Incidentally, I’ve used Mophie and Ravpower wireless chargers for years, missed the sweet spot twice? Three times maybe? Is this a problem with ultra cheapo wireless chargers?
 
What if you’re not charging an Apple Watch at the same time - is the maximum wattage still 11w with the 20w brick?

Also, can the Apple Watch section be used to charge AirPods?
The MagSafe (iPhone) section can be used to charge AirPods with Wireless charging case and AirPods Pro, but the watch side can only be used to charge an Apple Watch.
 
I wasn't likely to get it before, and will hard pass on it now. If there was something stronger than 'Apple' for it, I'd consider it. There are other options that do the same without the high price. Apple seems to have lost their ideal of being 'the computer for the rest of us', and it's tragic... I guess having to pay for a CEO is expensive.
 
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For the price, the should have included a power source that would charge at maximum power. That is something the old Apple would do, as they would want consistent, best in class products. Who wants to try and figure out another adapter.
 
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It will make a poor bedside charger as, unless you use both hands, you will lift up both the phone, the charger and your Watch at the same time.

MagSafe is a series of very poorly thought through design decisions. Individually, some of the issues may not be a big deal, but cumulatively MagSafe is a bag of hurt.

-expensive (itself not a huge surprise, this is Apple, I like Apple, I spend a lot of money on their products)
-slow charging Duo
-requires specific chargers for more money
-leaves marks on cases
-needs 2 hands for removal (an issue that is dependent on usage)
-dubious magnetic strength for the application (wallet, car mount)
-probably other issues I’ve either forgotten or will be revealed next week. Stay tuned!

It’s fine if some people, nonetheless, like it for their specific use. I saw one pic of magsafe used in a car tray, laid flat. Looked ideal! However, to deny it’s riddled with flaws across the range is crazy.

Incidentally, I’ve used Mophie and Ravpower wireless chargers for years, missed the sweet spot twice? Three times maybe? Is this a problem with ultra cheapo wireless chargers?
Is it a problem? Yes. Occasionally. My 10s Max misses the 'sweet spot' every so often. The problem is that when it does, the 'I'm charging' light will be on. The thing will look like it's working, and then at some apparently random time, the little LED will start blinking during the night, and I wake up to a power starved iPhone. It goes in spurts too, for some reason. I 'missed the spot' several times in one week last month, each after making sure the case was centered on the puck. I can almost see the reason for the MagSafe, but it probably could have been implemented better.

Also, occasionally my Apple Watch will miss that enigmatic spot on its Apple Watch flip up charging stand. In this case, the AW will *DING* to alert me that I don't need as much sleep as I originally thought. One particular night, I fiddled with the combination several times, trying to stop the *DING*, and finally just took the damn thing off the charger.

When things like that happen, I am surprised that there seems to be some level of incompatibility those nights because the AW is just not happy being on the stand. *DING* *DING* *DING* I'm glad the iPhone is at least quiet when it refuses to charge, but do wish, some nights, there was more of a notification that it's not charging than an anemic LED blinking.
 
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We understand that you are frustrated; however, the “courage” meme died out a few years ago folks.
It should be, but Apple keeps making hardware decisions that benefit Apple at the expense of the customer, and using aspirational language to justify it. Framing can work to a degree, but not to the degree Apple plays it. People buy the products in spite of, not as a result of, their justifications.

just the opinion of a guy whose job it is to make similar product decisions for a large company. If I used those justifications for product decisions, I’d be under review for endangering the company’s reputation by violating customer trust. That isn’t hyperbole. The things they say in relation to what they produce would be red flags from an ethics standpoint. I do believe someone in Apple , at some level, believes them. But they are ethically dubious and do deserve ridicule.
 
This isn’t going to matter to most people. Don’t forget most people are still using the same 5W adapter they’ve been using for years. This will charge more than twice as fast. More importantly, most people charge once a day, at night while they’re sleeping. Doesn’t really matter how fast it charges because the phone has 6+ hours to do so.
 
This is by far the worst part of the Apple ecosystem. Here is an itemized list of childish mistakes by Apple when it comes to this fragmented mess:

1.) There are 2 different Masafes’ one for the watch, one for the phone, and neither is compatible with each other.

2.) 6 different cables, USB2 to lightning, USB C to lightning, USB C to USB C, Watch MagSafe to USB2, Watch MagSafe to USB C, MagSafe to USB C.

3.) At least 3 adapters, who’s counting at this point :( This is something I’ve solved with hyperjuice adapters.

4.) Let’s throw is the 2 Apple Pencils here, and the cable adapter required to charge the gen 1.

5.) And let’s not forget MagSafe 2 on Macs few years ago for absolutely no reason.

I love Apple for the most part, for example kudos on the m1 chip, but this cable mess is ridiculous. There should be one MagSafe to charge them all, even MacBooks, and the cable that’s permanently fixed to it should be a removable USB C, and bam, you have one cable, and MagSafe if you need wireless charging. If you travel or relocate often you know how frustration this can get.
 
This is by far the worst part of the Apple ecosystem. Here is an itemized list of childish mistakes by Apple when it comes to this fragmented mess:

1.) There are 2 different Masafes’ one for the watch, one for the phone, and neither is compatible with each other.

2.) 6 different cables, USB2 to lightning, USB C to lightning, USB C to USB C, Watch MagSafe to USB2, Watch MagSafe to USB C, MagSafe to USB C.

3.) At least 3 adapters, who’s counting at this point :( This is something I’ve solved with hyperjuice adapters.

4.) Let’s throw is the 2 Apple Pencils here, and the cable adapter required to charge the gen 1.

5.) And let’s not forget MagSafe 2 on Macs few years ago for absolutely no reason.

I love Apple for the most part, for example kudos on the m1 chip, but this cable mess is ridiculous. There should be one MagSafe to charge them all, even MacBooks, and the cable that’s permanently fixed to it should be a removable USB C, and bam, you have one cable, and MagSafe if you need wireless charging. If you travel or relocate often you know how frustration this can get.
I agree. I have so many different cables and power bricks, its getting ridiculous. They ned to standardise on charging their devices and go USB C to Magsafe across all their devices. I hope that in 2021 the Series 7 watch adopts the same charging standards as the phones and iPads.
 
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