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I was actually thinking the same thing.

People are forgetting one thing.... why would they call it the "shuffle" if it has a screen, you can choose any song/album you want, and potentially has other useful features that a screen makes possible? The purpose of previously calling it the shuffle was to properly frame the customers expectations of the device. This new device, while similar in form factor the the older shuffle, will be able to do way more than just shuffle songs or play them sequentially. THAT is why they will call it the nano.
 
I think many so-called rumors are just wishes. How will Apple put 3G into iPod? Doesn't this make it an iPhone?
 
Build-an-app sounds great fun!

It would be a great way for customers to genuinely sculpt their own unique user experiences, and provide a good inroad for people who are mildly inquisitive into the commercial app developing process.

This is the last time I mention it, honest: appomator builds an app for iphone really easy already and it's simple to use and free to download and try out -
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10955125/

I'm designing an app at the moment and think appomator is a great way to make your own apps.

deej
 
Bye Bye Colour

If these cases are correct it would seem to suggest that the new Nano/Shuffle will come in just one colour like the iPod Touch.
 
Non-rumors

- fix for iPhone 3G - if Apple doesn't provide provide one by tomorrow, I'm buying a Droid X.

Why tomorrow?

Why didn't you buy one yesterday, or last week? Or why not buy one in October.

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People are forgetting one thing.... why would they call it the "shuffle" if it has a screen, you can choose any song/album you want, and potentially has other useful features that a screen makes possible? The purpose of previously calling it the shuffle was to properly frame the customers expectations of the device. This new device, while similar in form factor the the older shuffle, will be able to do way more than just shuffle songs or play them sequentially. THAT is why they will call it the nano.

NO. They call it a nano because of its size. Its much smaller then the mini, the player it replaced.

and it still could be the shuffle. It would either

  • Need a tacktile screen. Meaning you press down on the screen
  • Buttons on the side.
 
I would like to see the iPod Touch screen size increase to make it better for portable game playing and watching videos. Preferably 5 inches.
 
I hope everybody's wishes come true tomorrow, but honestly 3G in the iPod Touch? Where did this idea come from? Is this a legit rumor or something a random poster made up?

I don't see it happening, but hopefully I'm wrong. Also, for some reason I don't think the new iPod Touch will have a camera on the back. I think it'll be Facetime only. I don't put anything past Apple. Again, hopefully I'm wrong, I get no pleasure out of being right... :eek:

All I know is tomorrow will be entertaining no matter what happens!
 
Why tomorrow?

Why didn't you buy one yesterday, or last week? Or why not buy one in October.
Because Apple claimed they are working on fixing the millions of iPhone 3G's they broke.

If they can release a boatload of new products without fixing their broken ones first, then I'm done with the iPhone. No point supporting a company whose priorities are broken.
 
Non-rumors

- fix for iPhone 3G - if Apple doesn't provide provide one by tomorrow, I'm buying a Droid X.

My best friend has a Droid X, it's a pretty solid phone! :)

But you should buy a new phone, the 3G is old news and iOS 4 should have never been released for it. The performance is terrible, so buy the Droid X or iPhone 4! They're both great phones, so you can't lose no matter what you pick! Just get rid of that 3G...
 
Maybe I'm the only one, but a Nano without the click wheel loses *all* functionality for me. The whole reason I have one is so I can use it in my car. Right now, I can skip songs without looking at it, while I'm driving. "Touch Screen" that I have to see to operate? No thank you. I'll eBay the current model if the stores run out before I'm ready to replace my 2Gen Nano.
 
Because Apple claimed they are working on fixing the millions of iPhone 3G's they broke.

If they can release a boatload of new products without fixing their broken ones first, then I'm done with the iPhone. No point supporting a company whose priorities are broken.

Any fixes you get will smooth out some of the more severe problems, but you do realize you are not going to get 3.0 performance again, ever, right?

If you have a G4 Mac mini, you have to really think about if the features in 10.5 are worth sacrificing the performance of 10.4.

You're likely to see some of the worst hiccups smoothed over, but the 3G is now very outdated hardware. It wasn't very good to begin with.
 
But you should buy a new phone, the 3G is old news and iOS 4 should have never been released for it.
My iPhone 3G worked perfectly fine until Apple broke it. Apple removed all of the performance-related features from iOS 4 on the 3G - to the point where the only new feature is folders. If they can't add folders without dropping performance to where the OS hangs constantly, somebody is clueless on Apple's end.
 
My iPhone 3G worked perfectly fine until Apple broke it. Apple removed all of the performance-related features from iOS 4 on the 3G - to the point where the only new feature is folders. If they can't add folders without dropping performance to where the OS hangs constantly, somebody is clueless on Apple's end.

You demonstrate a serious lack of understanding on software. Even if the only user facing difference were the inclusion of a folders feature, that doesn't mean everything works the same as 3.0 under the hood.
 
People are forgetting one thing.... why would they call it the "shuffle" if it has a screen, you can choose any song/album you want, and potentially has other useful features that a screen makes possible? The purpose of previously calling it the shuffle was to properly frame the customers expectations of the device. This new device, while similar in form factor the the older shuffle, will be able to do way more than just shuffle songs or play them sequentially. THAT is why they will call it the nano.

Exactly. This square iPod may very well replace the shuffle, but it will be branded as the nano. It makes sense for Apple's smallest iPod to be called the nano. It does not make sense to call an iPod that does much more than just shuffle songs a shuffle.

The current nano is in a bit of an identity crisis itself. It isn't that much smaller than an iPod touch, or that much cheaper, but it has a much smaller screen and has less features. It has basically one niche use and that is running/working out, where you want the smallest device possible (the shuffle also fits that niche, but is less fully featured). Apple attempted to differentiate it last year by adding more features, but the reality is that a smaller iPod Touch would be a better fit for that size range and price range.

The shuffle is gone, the nano is now shuffle sized, and we may see a smaller iPod touch (I wouldn't be surprised to see a bigger one as well). It only makes sense. Apple doesn't need two devices for one niche use.

PS: People need to quit griping about physical buttons. I've run with my iPhone and I could consistently change tracks without looking at the screen. Once you know where the next track button is, it's pretty easy to hit. The shuffle doesn't even have buttons. There are plenty of good headphones with built in remotes now and adaptors for those without. It is easy to change tracks while running/working out.
 
I noticed that the iTunes music store hasn't been updated for the new releases today. That usually means (if I am remembering correctly) that an update to iTunes is coming.
 
Yes, and the 3GS sells for $99 which is subsidized by several hundred dollars by a 2 year contract, there is no way apple is going to sell an ipod touch for $99, that would absolutely murder their margins. Thats almost the same price as a shuffle.

The 3GS 8GB currently on sale is supposed to cost around 150-170 bucks in parts, down from 200-250 for the 3GS 16 the year before and the current iP4 16. A big part of the difference will actually be the memory, although the cheaper screen and camera module contribute. Battery and logic board will be virtually the same price. Case is not included in those estimates, so will be an additional savings.

In the iPT line, unless they introduce the iP4 case design (which seems unlikely), the difference between 4G 32 and 3G 16 will be, again, the screen, camera, and the Flash. The major reason why they kept the lowest end iPhone and lowest end iPT on the previous generation hardware is simple -- they want a bigger differentiation between the medium and the low than just the 8 vs 16 GB. It's a way to shore up sales of the higher-margin mid-end model while simultaneously shoring up the margins of the low-end model.

They've done it for the iPhone last year, for the iPod Touch last year, and for the iPhone this year. I see no reason whatsoever why they wouldn't do it for the iPod Touch this year.

Apple has always had multiple iPod lines that fall into different price categories. At present it's the shuffle, nano, classic and iPod touch. The entry level iPod touch being different technology to it's two higher priced ipod touch brethren is a bizarre anomaly in apples iPod line up

It isn't, really. It's following the practice set and continued by the iPhone line. iPhone and the iPods may not share an overarching product name, but I think it's fairly clear even to disinterested outside observers that the iPods and the iPhones are linked lines.

In having said all that - each of us has an opinion and no one knows what apple releases tomorrow, so good luck to you with your prediction (as an aapl stockholder i hope your wrong).

Here's my half cent:

- iPod Touch gets Retina Display and at least one camera, and thus facetime. Possibly just the VGA front. It retains the iPT form factor. The lineup will be 3G 16, 4G 32, 4G 64, just like the iPhone (except with more flash chips). Pricing might drop slightly for the 3 models, but not much.

- no 3G iPod Touch.

- iPod Nano will be the square touch based thing. The 3G Nano shows that Apple is not afraid to try new form factors. It will not run iOS. It will not have WiFi. It will be cheaper than current Nanos.

- The shuffle will either stay relatively unchanged, or move to being a clip-on model that will be in the place of the current remote control. Or, it vanishes entirely, and the Nano is priced appropriately.

- Apple will announce the white iPhone 4 and my longstanding order will be fulfilled by Wednesday.[1]

I remain ready to be surprised, though.

[1] All right, that's wishful thinking.

No, it makes it a smaller format iPad+3G. It would likely have the same data plans as the iPad.

That is exactly what an iPhone 4 with the right SIM card is, too, though. Production costs would be exactly the same as an iPhone 4 for an iP4 based iPT with 3G. Therefore sale prices would also be the same. That means $600-$800. No, that's just not gonna happen.
 
You demonstrate a serious lack of understanding on software. Even if the only user facing difference were the inclusion of a folders feature, that doesn't mean everything works the same as 3.0 under the hood.

I have to agree with this. iOS 4 is probably more demanding then 3.0, even without multitasking and backgrounds.
 
Why this is not iPhone?

For the same reason a 3G iPad is not an iPhone. It doesn't include Phone.app and doesn't require a phone contract.

People who buy iPod Touches use them as pocket computers. It isn't surprising they'd like to have network access everywhere instead of just wifi. That's already a reality with the iPad, and it makes sense that they would make other devices work with those same pay as you go data plans.
 
I'm sure we will see a stripped down iOS sooner or later. (no apps or wifi. Just music, video and "extras" that are the same you'll find on the iPod OS)

and plus how can internet distract you?

It may be a form of addiction, or just a personal failing, but at this point I'm much more productive at writing when I'm holding a pen and paper away from a computer. I'm sure it would be different if I was using the Internet for research or creating Excel/Numbers spreadsheets. But as it stands, when faced with a choice between checking the latest news or writing another three paragraphs, the first option wins out to an extent that is very detrimental to my overall progress.

Music is a plus. I enjoy it and it also helps me concentrate. Information pollution is the bane of my existence. I shouldn't even be here now... :apple:
 
The new iTV can run Apps, and you can use an iTouch or iPhone or iPad to control games on the iTV - like a game console!

Think of it as an Apple Wii with bonus features of doing all the photo galleries on TV and ability to rent movies like before.

I think that will be pretty cool!
 
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