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Apple's October 19th Media Event

Jesus said:
Give that man a medal !!!!!
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See, Photorun, Jesus does love you. :D

Good point about the XP machines. One thing I find with Windows is that it works pretty well until you hook it up to this thing called the Internet.

Well, I'm at the point of just staying up. Maybe I'll throw my buddy's "Warriors" DVD in.

Good luck to all you potential Powerbook buyers.

Squire
 
Photorun said:
Are you being disingenuous? College I work with has computer labs, sadly one is near the graphics lab where I work. IT is in there all the time servicing the Windoze (they're "dude, you're getting a" Dull computers), usually 1 in 5 has a note or sign on it "not working." One basics of creating an ad class works in there and the professor, a friend of mine, usually has to hold up every other class due to an XP machine locking up or acting wonky. I'm not going to lie, he had to do this once for a Mac (ahem)... ONCE! XPs is such a constant issue that most the students, even the peecee weenie kids, move over to a Mac at least just for that one class, not that they're converting or whatever, just you look like a dweeb when you hold up a class. Oh, did I mention the IT guys are in there all the time? They're not doing that for poops and grins, they're in there cleaning up XP, or reinstalling, or adding a service pack, whatever, I've seen them on every computer in there, well, every PC computer. Only one Mac have they had to fix (bad RAM chip).

So you're totally spinning something if you truly believe XP is as stable as OS X, sure, if you never RUN anything on it, it's solid, or you luck out. But you do actualy WORK on the thing then no, it's not as stable, or you've been the luckiest PC user ever to grace the planet, in which case, congrats, you're a miracle.
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You've gotten remain rational about this issue dude. I crashed the cr*p outta my 1.67 Powerbook during only 2 weeks of owning it. All it takes is flakey software, drivers, or hardware. On either platform.
 
Photorun said:
Are you being disingenuous? College I work with has computer labs, sadly one is near the graphics lab where I work. IT is in there all the time servicing the Windoze (they're "dude, you're getting a" Dull computers), usually 1 in 5 has a note or sign on it "not working." One basics of creating an ad class works in there and the professor, a friend of mine, usually has to hold up every other class due to an XP machine locking up or acting wonky. I'm not going to lie, he had to do this once for a Mac (ahem)... ONCE! XPs is such a constant issue that most the students, even the peecee weenie kids, move over to a Mac at least just for that one class, not that they're converting or whatever, just you look like a dweeb when you hold up a class. Oh, did I mention the IT guys are in there all the time? They're not doing that for poops and grins, they're in there cleaning up XP, or reinstalling, or adding a service pack, whatever, I've seen them on every computer in there, well, every PC computer. Only one Mac have they had to fix (bad RAM chip).

So you're totally spinning something if you truly believe XP is as stable as OS X, sure, if you never RUN anything on it, it's solid, or you luck out. But you do actualy WORK on the thing then no, it's not as stable, or you've been the luckiest PC user ever to grace the planet, in which case, congrats, you're a miracle.
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I'm not a PC user. And college lab PCs are hardly a good example of a well treated machine. Of course they are unstable.

I am talking specifically for audio production where not only are PCs a lot faster but are just as stable. When I used a PC (work bought it for me) I had no crashes whatsoever using the software that I used.

BUT, please see my reply above. I wouldn't use an XP machine, except under extreme duress. I don't like the way the OS works and how if you do get a problem how hard it is to fix.
 
will this even be live online? or are we gonna have to wait again? anyone know? anyone? I can't find a link if there is....figures this would be the day I have a teleconference scheduled at noon.
 
Regrettably, there are few things that make me feel like a kid these days. :(

But waiting for the Apple Store to come back up is definitely one of them... :D

JT
 
Photorun said:
So you're totally spinning something if you truly believe XP is as stable as OS X, sure, if you never RUN anything on it, it's solid, or you luck out. But you do actualy WORK on the thing then no, it's not as stable, or you've been the luckiest PC user ever to grace the planet, in which case, congrats, you're a miracle.
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I run XP on my corporate workstation. I run Lotus Notes constantly, and Word, PowerPoint, Firefox, Peregrine Service Center, Remote Desktop and Netmeeting daily. The computer is running 24/7, and gets uptime of around 3-4 weeks (at that point I reboot so I will get all the updates. the computer still runs just fine though).
 
drater said:
will this even be live online? or are we gonna have to wait again? anyone know? anyone? I can't find a link if there is....figures this would be the day I have a teleconference scheduled at noon.
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same drill as last week. live text reporting on the front page of MR. i'm not all that bothered about video feeds.
 
XP and OS X are both stable - by themselves.

I can lock up either one in a few minutes if you let me install some stuff on them.

Case in point: Running the the keyboard/mouse sharing software "Synergy" (synergy2.sourceforge.net) on OS X 10.4.2 with the RSS Feed screensaver on my G4 500, my USB mouse stops working about 50% of the time. (can click, but no xy movement) OS X's problem? Probably not. But that doesn't help when I have to log out/back in to get my mouse back! (yes, I've stopped using that screen saver and the problem seems to have gone away)
 
eric_n_dfw said:
XP and OS X are both stable - by themselves.

I can lock up either one in a few minutes if you let me install some stuff on them.

Case in point: Running the the keyboard/mouse sharing software "Synergy" (synergy2.sourceforge.net) on OS X 10.4.2 with the RSS Feed screensaver on my G4 500, my USB mouse stops working about 50% of the time. (can click, but no xy movement) OS X's problem? Probably not. But that doesn't help when I have to log out/back in to get my mouse back! (yes, I've stopped using that screen saver and the problem seems to have gone away)
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I agree. The nice thing about OSX (and other well designed OSs, I'm not talking XP here) is that usually an application failure won't touch anything on the OS level. The same can't usually be said of XP.
 
I am so excited, please let this be it! I have to go to work in an hour so I won't know for another 4hours or so :eek:
 
OSX has tigher os to hardware intergration

Even though its some of the same hardware a pc uses, its a designated configuration. They can set performance minimums, by choosing the right motherboard and so on.

And I cant wait to see what the new configs are, even if I dont buy one right away.

QuadCity G5s!!!
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