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Is there an app to take random Apple superlatives to describe their lofty projection of new devices? E.g. the iWork woman says collaboration is 'amazing'. I mean, come on it's an office package. The app would say something like "the iPhone 7 is amazing as lack of headphones jacks are in our DNA and we're passionate about removing stuff our customers need as they're 100% satisfied with our eco policy."
 
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People, Apple has removed the jack because the next all new models the bezels are completely removed. Think Apple Watch-- almost no bezels.
 
99.99% are satisfied and we are the 0.01%

Is there an app to take random Apple superlatives to describe their lofty projection of new devices? E.g. the iWork woman says collaboration is 'amazing'. I mean, come on it's an office package. The app would say something like "the iPhone 7 is amazing as lack of headphones jacks are in our DNA and we're passionate about removing stuff our customers need as they're 100% satisfied with our eco policy."
 
Let me bring up an irrelevant point, too... Phones catching on fire isn't a "bleeding edge" by ANY standard.

Everything has its pros and cons. Everything... Try again.

Samsung isn't the only smartphone maker on the market, in case you didn't know.

And no it is not irrelevant as bleeding hedge implies that the iPhone 7 should all the greatest and latest specs and it simply doesn't. Then we all appreciate the Apple user experience and know that specs aren't everything.
Unfortunately the screen is important and it is the most obvious thing an average customer would notice just by holding it.
 
As an engineer I understand the need to remove the headphone jack. However, I don't think that it is a valid decision when you can't even deliver on the promise of a wireless future yourself.

How much did those airPods cost again Phil? Ridiculous.. I understand that Apple is a luxury brand and therefore the prices are high, but this is way too much. Let's just hope they'll stick in your ears.

Secondly, I've had friends with loose lightning connectors due to charging it often. I wouldn't find it surprising when a month from now people are having issues with damaged phones due the the dongle they provide (really? providing a wire? Sounds like you're courageously sticking to your vision of a wireless world Apple). I hope they thought of this, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't, since Tim doesn't fire people for poor design, examples:

1. Charging the magic mouse
2. Charging the Apple Pencil
3. Putting a microphone on the top/back of the iMac, especially stupid when introducing continuity at the same time


These bozo engineers would not have been around long with Steve as CEO

Surely, as an engineer, you must know there's more than a wire inside that "dongle." Maybe even a DAC? And that has nothing to do with Apple not sticking to it's vision, but is supplied to help its customers who have headphones they like through the transition. And it comes with the phone. Extras are $9.

With respect to Lightening connector wear, well, mine after two years of use feels just as tight as when my phone was purchased. It's a robust well-engineered design, unlike the micro/mini USB connects used by other phones.
 
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Let me bring up an irrelevant point, too... Phones catching on fire isn't a "bleeding edge" by ANY standard.

Everything has its pros and cons. Everything... Try again.

How is it irrelevant? Flagship phones now have quad HD displays.

As for the note 7 catching fire, Samsung were very quick to respond, unlike say Apple with bend gate, touch disease etc etc.

Removing the headphone jack is a money making ploy. To get any reasonable use out of the phone requires purchasing more docks and cables.
 
Why doesn't anyone seem to be concerned about the port breaking? Having a lump of plastic sticking out of the port whilst the phone is in your pocket is asking to be broken.

at least with 3.5mm cables you get right angle plugs to reduce the risk of port damage, every lightning port accessory is a straight connector.

Also, I've lost count of how many damaged lightning cables I have lying round the house, that I've had to pay to replace. They are way more flimsy than the 3.5mm jack plug - I can't see how it's an improvement.
 
Lucky me I can't imagine an scenario where I would need to charge the phone and listen to music with headphones at the same time.

I unfortunately have one I do daily: charging the phone in my car while listening to music/podcasts/GPS directions via the headphone jack.

The only external input available in my car is a headphone jack; it doesn't have bluetooth. So when I upgrade my phone, I'll have to either buy a new car stereo or a bulky adapter that pulls on the iPhone as it sits in its mounting bracket. Yes, things change and we have to move forward, but this seems unthoughtful of Apple.
 
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I'm less concerned about listening to music & charging, than I am with sitting on a conference call in an airport and not being able to charge while I'm on the call, unless I put it on speaker phone for everyone to hear.

Probably the "push for wireless use" will gain traction in the future, but as you and many others already said, there are people that need to use their headphones AND charge their iPhone at the same time at this very moment, be it for music, job, travel or whatever reasons. Hell, I do it time and again with my iPhone SE (and used to do with my 5S AND my 4) in my desk.

IMHO, Apple could just have included the AirPods in the iPhone 7 box.. But this would never be their traditional business way.

BTW, on the light side, I think we'll face a lot of 10 or more pages discussions from now on, for every new adapter released :D:p
 
How is it irrelevant? Flagship phones now have quad HD displays.

As for the note 7 catching fire, Samsung were very quick to respond, unlike say Apple with bend gate, touch disease etc etc.

Removing the headphone jack is a money making ploy. To get any reasonable use out of the phone requires purchasing more docks and cables.

But Samsung tried to sneak it though by not going through proper channels, i.e. the Consumer Product Safety Commission, as they are supposed to do in the US. Because of that, the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) is considering banning the Note 7 from being taken aboard US airlines.
 
This isn't a solution. This is just courageous and utter ********, served in an ice cream cone.

I had a faint hope that if they were going to remove the headphone jack (okay, fine, I'll give it to you that it's an ancient tech where innovation should occur, even though "it just works"), they would have added wireless charging, or some ACTUAL no additional cost solution. But yeah, silly me for thinking that.

The question is, how many times do you actually need to charge your phone while listening to music? I'm not looking at the stats now, but isn't listening to music (if that's really all you're doing) on any iPhone offers by far the greatest amount of run time (when using the Music app)? Maybe if you're streaming music over wifi, or worse over 3G, 4G or LTE, you'll burn through some battery, but there are solutions to that - like not listening to music over a cellular connection (try downloading songs or playlists or both?).
 
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So let me get this straight - we now have to carry around an adaptor AND a dock with us, just in case we might want to charge and listen to our iPhone at the same time. What about in car use?
No, you clearly didn't understand Phil. You have to BUY separate adaptors for home, for work, and one for in the car. And drive very, very carefully. No need to carry anything around you see?
 
I'm not buying one (have a 6 that's just fine for me), so I'm not personally impacted.

But what troubles me is that Apple might be moving towards "you can't do anything else while charging unless you buy another device or do it wirelessly" generally -- witness the Macbook.

I really do fear that we're going to see more and more of this concept which, obviously, depends on using wireless for a great many things. I suspect that before long, using wireless for everything isn't going to be an option -- it's going to be effectively required.
 
Just like the external CD/DVD drive everyone uses on their new MacBook/MacBook pros

Not the same situation.

When they ditched the disc drive, about 98% of customers were coming from a computer that had one; not too difficult to copy any disc-based files using your old computer and then migrate to the new computer. Music CDs could be ripped into the old computer too before migration. After migration, you could just throw away your old discs, which were no longer convenient or cost-effect as a storage medium when apple got rid of disc drives anyways.

In the current case, you have a product that is in no way obsolete (headphones and earphones) and superior to Apple's proprietary "solution" in most ways : sound quality, universality, price, repairability (a lot easier to fix a broken wire than a broken bluetooth transmitter or battery), usability (the battery time will get lower and lower until you're down to 2-3 hours of playtime per charge after a year or two) and longevity (once the battery life gets crappy enough, you'll have to pay apple $75 to replace the batteries or chuck 'em; meanwhile a good set of wired headphones might last 20-30 years).

Dongles and hubs of any sort are workarounds, and invariably ****** looking and clunky. Making a simple combination of functions like using the phone and charging it at the same time require a dongle is 100%, pure bad design.

Pretending that this is just Apple "pushing innovation forward" is retarded. They could just as easily have released the AirBuds and pushed their wireless Beats products while keeping the headphone jack so as not to **** their audience. Maybe it would have meant no vibrating home button or a phone that was a half mm thicker or something. Big ****ing deal.
 
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