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a $100 used iPhone 6S in 2023 is a lot more respectable than a new Galaxy S23. imagine spending $1000+ and still screwing up the group chats with your ugly green bubble.
Except it’s not our ugly green bubble. It’s Apples ugly green bubble. They are the ones who decided to segregate between iMessage and sms by color. They could have left it as one color for both, but this was a deliberate decision on their part.
 
I was so relieved years ago when the last of my friends in our group message chats finally got an iPhone and it was ALL iMessage going forward. No more green bubbles.

"If you don't have an iPhone, well...you just don't have an iPhone"
 
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Indeed. This is the thing we need to be talking about. Not fanboying over this or that company.

It's ridiculous because nobody judges each other over the brand of someone's TV or car. But your choice of cell phone? Really?

Call me an old geezer (I'm actually quite young) but my previous phone was an Android and I didn't miss a beat abandoning iMessage. I'm in the USA, too. This social conditioning is ridiculous.
I owned every iPhone from the 4-12, and have been on Android (primary phone) for the past two years and I have not had any issues sending or receiving texts from people with iPhones, be it in a single thread or group text.
 
I owned every iPhone from the 4-12, and have been on Android (primary phone) for the past two years and I have not had any issues sending or receiving texts from people with iPhones, be it in a single thread or group text.
Ditto. What phone are you rocking right now? How do you like it?
 
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Ditto. What phone are you rocking right now? How do you like it?
Z Fold 4 for primary, Pixel 7 and iPhone 12 PM for backup. I love the Z Fold 4. I had the Z Fold 3 before that and ever since then I've known that I will never go back to a traditional slab phone as my primary again!
 
Not based on security, but what other people might think/say about them?

*sigh*
Exactly! I find that so weird. While I like my iPhone/Apple Devices, I use them because that is WHAT I PREFER. If I loved an Android, I would use it. I do not care about being ostracized. That is just so weird and bizarre to me. We have a bunch of weak-ass kids imo.
 
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I never use group chats anyway, unless you can restrict notification to responses from specific people.

I would also see it as a major privacy issue if other people can see that I use an iPhone.
 
Z Fold 4 for primary, Pixel 7 and iPhone 12 PM for backup. I love the Z Fold 4. I had the Z Fold 3 before that and ever since then I've known that I will never go back to a traditional slab phone as my primary again!
Nice! I had a Pixel 7 for a brief time and loved it. What a beautiful device. I returned it because it was too big (I have an iPhone SE 2022, FWIW). Amazing phones, I can't wait to rock one full-time. I think the Pixel 8 is rumored to be a little smaller.

About the fold -- wow. You know, it seems that everyone that has one loves them. There must be something to them. Do you find the thickness of the device when folded an issue while in your pocket? What about the really tall aspect ratio of the folded device?

edit -- Just read your signature. Very good. 😄
 
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The article seems to presuppose that these individuals feel pressure to purchase certain products. That might be true for some, like a lot of consumer products, but it could be that they simply prefer the iPhone over others. I don’t think it would have the strength and staying power if the quality and experience wasn’t first rate.
 
Right-o! I love switching between platforms. They're both great, and life is too short to use the same OS for 10, 20, 30 years.
I hope you mean phone OS right? Because I've been using Unix for well over 30 years. I'd been using using Win7 for over 10 years (was forced to switch to Win10 because my old machine died). Been using OSX for over 20 years... still using the big cat code named versions to boot.😁
Exactly! I find that so weird. While I like my iPhone/Apple Devices, I use them because that is WHAT I PREFER. If I loved an Android, I would use it. I do not care about being ostracized. That is just so weird and bizarre to me. We have a bunch of weak-ass kids imo.
Don't blame the kids. Blame the parents. I hate when I hear parents complaining about how bratty their kids behave. Welp, if y'all had set a good example of taught 'em right...🤨😤
 
Nice! I had a Pixel 7 for a brief time and loved it. What a beautiful device. I returned it because it was too big (I have an iPhone SE 2022, FWIW). Amazing phones, I can't wait to rock one full-time. I think the Pixel 8 is rumored to be a little smaller.

About the fold -- wow. You know, it seems that everyone that has one loves them. There must be something to them. Do you find the thickness of the device when folded an issue while in your pocket? What about the really tall aspect ratio of the folded device?

edit -- Just read your signature. Very good. 😄
Haha thanks! The thickness in my pocket doesn't bother me at all and I prefer it over how wide the iPhone 12 Pro Max is in my pocket. The Z Fold 4 is more comfortable in my pocket and in my hand. I only dropped my Z Fold 3 once and I haven't dropped my Z Fold 4 yet (knock on wood) since I got it on launch day last August. It is just easier to hold, for me anyway. The Fold 4 isn't quite as tall as the Z Fold 3 was, which is nice. I think it could be a tad shorter but not by much. I really have no complaints. Mark my words, if Apple comes out with a foldable like the Z Fold, it is going to sell like hotcakes and a lot of people on here are going to immediately change their tunes about foldable phones.
 
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I completely disagree, I don't think it would add confusion at all. Apple already has Apple TV and Apple Music apps on Google.

Except those two are different types of app; used in isolation and not for communication. Users look for specific conent with them.


Email doesn't make sense most of the time.

Fair enough. Have you tried Google Messages? Or Send Anywhere? There are solutions out there that support higher resolutions than SMS.


Apple could release iMessage for Android, I suspect if Apple did that and routed everything through its servers Google would not be happy.

Except it’s not our ugly green bubble. It’s Apples ugly green bubble. They are the ones who decided to segregate between iMessage and sms by color. They could have left it as one color for both, but this was a deliberate decision on their part.

Which lets you know the poor photo is not due to iMessage but the SMS standard.
 
I never use group chats anyway, unless you can restrict notification to responses from specific people.

I would also see it as a major privacy issue if other people can see that I use an iPhone.

Genuinely curious how someone knowing you are using an iPhone would be a privacy concern? I pretty much assume that everyone I talk to is either using (a) an iPhone or (b) an Android, and I personally can't think of any meaningful privacy or security concerns with someone who messages me (even if an unknown contact) knows which one I'm using, but you may have a different use case than I do.

From a security perspective, if someone is trying something malicious that depends on which platform you're on, you can bet they will try twice (once with the Android-focused attack and once with the iOS-focused attack) so they're going to get it right no later than the 2nd try.
 
Apple knows that the only reason people buy iPhones is the green bubbles. Like must be sad when you can't differentiate yourselves from competition, and rely on a gimmick feature that has taken off into being a social pressure, to retain users.
 
Interesting social dilemma for Apple, figure out how to make iMessage universal or focus on profits. I try to teach my kids to not blindly follow, but even I will admit it's pretty damn hard when you can't communicate well with an iPhone user when you have an Android phone.
You could always actually “call” them on the phone. Email works too between Android and IOS. I hear SMS also stills works.
 
Android still rules in Germany (and Europe) in general though: market share is 67,8% Android and 32,2% Apple.
What’s the meaning of Android rules? I tell you what it means. Nothing! Market share of quite ‘useless’ and cheap Android phones is nothing in the grand argument. That percentage of iPhones you mention, assuming it’s true, are in the hands of those who are willing to pay more, buy other Apple products, and who are going to influence the market trend in the future.
 
Except those two are different types of app; used in isolation and not for communication. Users look for specific conent with them.




Fair enough. Have you tried Google Messages? Or Send Anywhere? There are solutions out there that support higher resolutions than SMS.


Apple could release iMessage for Android, I suspect if Apple did that and routed everything through its servers Google would not be happy.



Which lets you know the poor photo is not due to iMessage but the SMS standard.

It doesn't matter that they are different types of apps, there is no reason Apple couldn't make an iMessage app just like we have Whatsapp, FB messenger, etc. I still disagree that it would be confusing at all, if anything it would be the opposite. I have tried Google messages, it's the same experience because while those messaging apps allow larger sizes, the carrier still compresses them to MMS sizes when it's between Android and iPhone unless the iPhone is also using the same messaging app.

Apple won't route through Google, that's actually the issue with using Google RCS and why Apple isn't on board with it. I'd rather see Apple retain control of the entire process, that's why an app makes the most sense. Maybe Google shoots it down for the Play store, although I'd be at a loss as to what reason they would use, especially in light of the stink they've been making over RCS recently. But even that hurdle could be crossed with a web app.

And yeah the issue is the SMS standard.
 
You could always actually “call” them on the phone. Email works too between Android and IOS. I hear SMS also stills works.

Absolutely. You could always "get" into your horse and carriage and visit them as well, I hear those new horse and carriage models are pretty fast these days. I could just physically print out the pictures I want to send, and maybe download the videos onto a VHS tape then just zip over in the horse and carriage and physically hand it all over. Problem resolved!
 
Oh yeah, I get complaints about how images are terrible in Android SMS if sent from an iPhone. I believe it's because of the new Apple HEIC codec for their images. It doesn't display right on Android natively.
HEIC, X265 require a licensing fee and perhaps Android is unwilling to pay the licensing fee.
 
Apple knows that the only reason people buy iPhones is the green bubbles.
Y'all reaching, bro. This the one of the weakest argument I've heard for buying an iPhone. My wife prefers the iPhone. I like Android. She doesn't have any issues with my green bubble popping up in her messages. A lot of my friends have iPhones too. I'm a green bubble to them.
Like must be sad when you can't differentiate yourselves from competition, and rely on a gimmick feature that has taken off into being a social pressure, to retain users.
Wut?! Are we talking about iOS and Android? Because they're more different than alike. Hail, the only similarity between them is that they're both phone/tablet OS'es. Android is pretty much unregulated, whereas iOS is locked down tighter than the Pope's chasity belt. Sideload, multiple appstores, ASOP or Google, customization...androids got you fam. iOS you get to choose the color of your phone. Android and iOS is as different as Apples and Penguins.
 
no one wants to be the green bubble that ruins group chats.
It’s not even the green bubbles, text message forwarding to the Mac eliminated most of that annoyance for me. It’s the compressed images and unworkable video. RCS may not be it, but SMS NEEDS to GO.
 
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The other thing about Android is it still feels like a skunkworks project to developers. A big bag of sht all cobbled together, with horribly designed APIs. It’s no wonder all that software on android isn’t nearly as nicely done as it is on iOS. The developers are too busy waisting their time fixing tangential things instead of working on the experience/details.
 
Except it’s not our ugly green bubble. It’s Apples ugly green bubble. They are the ones who decided to segregate between iMessage and sms by color. They could have left it as one color for both, but this was a deliberate decision on their part.
And why can't they just let all the iMessages do their thing and just have the Greens see what they see without affecting the iMessages?
 
Absolutely. You could always "get" into your horse and carriage and visit them as well, I hear those new horse and carriage models are pretty fast these days. I could just physically print out the pictures I want to send, and maybe download the videos onto a VHS tape then just zip over in the horse and carriage and physically hand it all over. Problem resolved!
To me, the best form of communication if face to face in person. Next would be a phone call, texting would be my last resort.

When I was the age of these gen Z people, if we wanted to talk to our friends, we either walked over to their house, or rode our bike over. Back then, a household had one phone, a rotary dial phone that usually hung on the wall in the kitchen. Children rarely were allowed to use the phone. I think we had a much more rewarding social life than kids do today, plus there were almost no fat kids, as everyone got exercise walking or riding a bike. Mommy didn't drive you everywhere while you sat in the back seat playing on a $1000 phone.
 
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