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Apple's Redesigned Mac Pro Now Available for Online Orders
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I wouldn't expect Apple to step on the nMPs glory like that. But I think a beefed up hobbyist/prosumer mini should follow this spring. Clearly it's due for some upgrade since it was the only Mac ignored this year. I have cash in hand for a "mini" Mac Pro(sumer). Don't need a Xeon or dual D500s but do need solid i7 & discrete GPU + user upgradable RAM & storage. Huge hole in the hobbyist market right now, which oddly is who Apple's "pro" software is priced for.
If you depend on Mac OSX to make a living, the New Mac Pro may be part of your workflow. Has nothing to do with religion.
Yet everything else comes from China and we still see a sizeable amount difference between final price in US and Europe which can't be explained simply.
2999 * 1.2 (don't forget US prices don't include tax, European prices do!) usd in gbp is just over 2197 (according to google). Add to that the cost of shipping, employing in Europe cf. the USA, and the European hardware warranty and statutory contract quirks, the extra £200 or so is very easy to account for...
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If this is just about the looks, just get a poster of it. Much cheaper.
Really quite amazing how Apple's 'form at the expense of function' approach has sucked some of you in.
I like my stuff to look nice too, but once that buzz you get from the newness wears off, it's just a device you use. A year after buying this thing you're not going to be looking at much (if at all) or even thinking about it's design.
I love Apple but I totally agree. I've noticed something different these days for my tastes. Desktop I love building a PC gaming rig but tablet/laptop I love Apple.
Looks great but I do miss the old Mac Pro enclosure with the HDD sleds.
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The problem with the Mac Pro for me is that I have no idea what the D300 is compared to common cards today, or what the D500, D700, heck the D1000 (Terminator edition). They are just meaningless product names at this point.
Not sure how the bottom of the line makes sense over an iMac...
These things need to be configured to at least $5-6k to be useful -_-
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A well-argued and firmly substantiated claim.
You are, of course, wrong. Especially as "better" is a pretty meaningless adjective.
These things need to be configured to at least $5-6k to be useful -_-
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A well-argued and firmly substantiated claim.
You are, of course, wrong. Especially as "better" is a pretty meaningless adjective.
I agree with the original poster. ATI always have driver issues and performance is not as good as the Nvidia counterparts.
For over 10 years in the past I was an ATI fan but the past 4-5 years, I'd have to give it to Nvidia for its performances and better drivers. But I suppose this is what happens when a CPU manufacturing company takes over a GPU manufacturing company.
Did you build you dream machine like I did? Mine would be roughly 10K CAN$ (without a display)
Problem is that you would have to pick the D700. Otherwise you'll be disappointed in a year. Technology moves forward, especially in the OpenCL/GL world.
What if there are extensions or CL kernel capabilities you cannot use because in a year the new XXX card will have them?
CPU / RAM and all the benchmarks are pretty useless. The features of new components and the adaption rate regarding the software is.
The SSD thing is so disappointing because you can get PCIe based SSD cards today. The pricing there is unjustified, considering you need some kind of external storage.
What if there are extensions or CL kernel capabilities you cannot use because in a year the new XXX card will have them?
CPU / RAM and all the benchmarks are pretty useless. The features of new components and the adaption rate regarding the software is.
The SSD thing is so disappointing because you can get PCIe based SSD cards today. The pricing there is unjustified, considering you need some kind of external storage.
They sell up to 128 GB for Mac Pros (old and new), once you click on the NEW Mac Pro you will see that only 32 and 64 are available for it as shown in the attached photo.
Hope that helps to clarify the confusion.
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Not sure as yet! But I'm sure they'll be options in short order. I really don't keep anything else on my "startup" drive in any case. I'm currently running a MacPro 4,1 and a MBP (2012 2.2Ghz i7) so I'm anticipating a pretty big speed bump.
I've also officially made the switch to FCPX, so with the updates there today and utilizing multi core, it will be worth the expense in improved playback and render times.
Its amazing how much has changed over the 4 years since I got the 4,1 - when you consider that FCP7 wasn't optimized to take advantage of multi core. That machine (and the MBP) now chugs on playback of RAW footage from my BlackMagic pocket cinema camera, just simple QT playback. Not to mention straight exports and crunches for web compression.
These new machines are a big expense, no doubt, which it why I'm playing safely with the 6 core. No matter what business your in, you want to keep costs down- having said that, when tech makes a jump like this, especially in my business, you need to be on top of it. Yes- I can keep using the 4,1 (the MBP is faster for many tasks too) but the time vs cost expense comes down EVERY day you use the machine. If you do this stuff for a living, and in my case as one man band- time is everything. If I can see a 30% boost, I'll be thrilled.
Please explain further. It seems to me the stock quadcore MP has more proc & Esp GPU horsepower than the best configured iMac. The iMac's screen is not pro grade so at best it's useful to put pallets & controls on.
But mostly the iMac & MP are for very different markets. The iMac, regardless of config or price is still in the Mac's consumer desktop quadrant.
Here:
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/
Scroll down to "Storage" If you can't replace the startup drive yourself; I'll be sending right back
Are you able to pick these up in stores?
The website says Delivery not until February.
Seems like BS just to say they met their FALL deadline.
The website says Delivery not until February.
Seems like BS just to say they met their FALL deadline.
Yep, noticed that too, even for stock configurations. When I first went to look at the config page (US store) about an hour ago, it was still saying Dec 30.
Guess it's sold out already...?
That would be in line with other Apple products - iPad and iPhone, most notably. The storage is limited to whatever one gets when he buys the product.
Is the flash storage removable? Probably not. But most Apple computers have the ability to boot from another drive - hold down the option key while restarting and select from whichever drive has an OS on it.