If Apple were listening to their customers we would have had the cheese grater back again in 2014 and it would be upgraded yet again July this year. Just as it would have been each time intel had a good idea. But this makes not an exciting press release. You pro customers are a tool for exciting Apple press releases.
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Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
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G5 Cube.....that would of melted into a pool of plastic.
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I still can't get over that they don't have any displays....they stock 99% of the parts already for the iMac. Just sell the friggin display.
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The original ARM2 was first used in powerful personal computers back in 1987 and, at the time, could leave its contemporaries - the Intel 286 and the Motorola 68k choking on its dust, despite running off very modest power. However, it couldn't run DOS/Windows*, and a non-PC-compatible British computer wasn't going anywhere outside a local niche... so when ARM Ltd was spun off they concentrated on the ultra-low-power embedded systems - and later mobile - market, while Intel threw the kitchen sink at the x86 to make it into a super powerful space heater.
No reason ARM can't play catch-up on performance: In the last few years ARM and others have started working on 64-bit chips, server chips etc. I think the ARM's trump card is that the cores are smaller and lower-power than Intel so you can fit more cores on a chip. Also, we're at the stage where the chips in the iPad, iPhone X are fast enough for tablets, convertibles and ultraportable laptops - and that's where ARM will get in, because it has the huge advantage of pick'n'mix licensing, allowing the likes of Apple to build their own systems-on-a-chip to exactly match the needs of each device, and they're likely to be running lightweight, new-ish software which - if it isn't a platform-independent webapp - can be rebuilt for ARM just by re-compiling.
However, Mac Pros, iMac Pro etc. that need real grunt, and must support huge Pro applications with hundreds of third-party plugins will be the hardest targets for ARM.
*Actually, it could - using software emulation - which worked pretty impressively but, with the best will in the world, wasn't fast enough to be viable if you were mainly using PC software. Modern software emulation/code translation is rather more sophisticated, and modern software relies far more on operating system-provided functionality that can be run natively...
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I don't think it's so much "STARTING to learn what a pro workflow is", as it is "Let's take the knowledge of that we already have, combined with some additional Pro input for course-corrections along the way, and form a really-focused design team that starts with a clean sheet of paper."
Unlike you, who THINKS they ALREADY have it all-figured-out, and have ALREADY DISMISSED the idea that Apple was "building something innovative", WITHOUT SEEING SO MUCH AS A LEAKED RENDERING, RUMOR, FEATURE-LIST.
THAT's why YOU are sitting there posting on the internet, instead of heading-up Apple's R&D. Because YOU already HAVE all the answers.
Riiiiight.
It is quite possible there is no longer a place in the Mac range for the Mac Pro. The iMac Pro will surely be attracting that corner of the market so it is by no means certain the two can coexist.
The iMac Pro was a considerable risk release from Apple and an incredibly impressive one which provides professionals with the tool they need to carry out the most demanding of tasks.
Clearly the cylindrical Mac Pro hasn't proved to be a success as Apple wouldn't be redesigning it from the ground up. Lets think retro though. What began as the PowerMac G5 and turned in to the Mac Pro was one hell of a design and massively versatile. Apple would not disgrace themselves at all if they worked on a design similar to that is tried and tested.
It is more important what is on the inside and for it to be user upgradeable with no soldered components which is the scourge of much of the Mac range.
Thinking retro it would be great to see a return of the PowerMac G5/Original Mac Pro as even in 2018 it remains unequalled.
The iMac Pro was a considerable risk release from Apple and an incredibly impressive one which provides professionals with the tool they need to carry out the most demanding of tasks.
Clearly the cylindrical Mac Pro hasn't proved to be a success as Apple wouldn't be redesigning it from the ground up. Lets think retro though. What began as the PowerMac G5 and turned in to the Mac Pro was one hell of a design and massively versatile. Apple would not disgrace themselves at all if they worked on a design similar to that is tried and tested.
It is more important what is on the inside and for it to be user upgradeable with no soldered components which is the scourge of much of the Mac range.
Thinking retro it would be great to see a return of the PowerMac G5/Original Mac Pro as even in 2018 it remains unequalled.
no. i do think they are reimagining what a computer is.
maybe some form of thunderbolt interconnected cpu modules, egpus, storage etc
Hopefully it goes back to being an internally expandable machine like their professional models have been ever since they started shipping them...........
Still rocking my 12 core 5,1 machine, which has been holding up well overall. The expandability and ability to internally support modern GPU cards has been its saving grace.
Still rocking my 12 core 5,1 machine, which has been holding up well overall. The expandability and ability to internally support modern GPU cards has been its saving grace.
I agree with the eGPU thing being a Clue.
But Oooh, a 30 inch iPad as a Design Tablet/Digitizer!!!! 48 virtual "channel strips" visible at a time for multitrack recording, four virtual displays for video editing...
Mmmmmmmmmm!!!!
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Nope.
Uncle Craig already said that one of the biggest roadblocks to updating the 2013 Mac Pro with newer internals was the Thermal Budget.
So the "Trash Can" is dead.
We already have modular, it's called PCIe
https://gizmodo.com/apple-promises-a-new-macpro-next-year-for-real-this-tim-1825017349
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Who do you think "Signed off" on the 2013 Mac Pro's design, SJ or TC?
Hint: The 2013 Mac Pro's Design Project was likely started in 2010 or 2011 at the latest.
How long will the current tcMP be supported with macOS releases? Will it be sunset the moment in 2019 when a new one comes around? Do new purchased ones still show up as Mac Pro (2013) in "about this mac?"
Um, considering the ongoing and significant updates to Logic Pro X, I wouldn't be too worried about their commitment to the audio side of things...
Sure, agreed about the cheese-grater; I had one myself! But in your example, people still wind up with all sorts of crap on the desk, because the tower is awkward to access. If a well though out modular design, that was adaptable to different workflows, could help take care of that problem, then I think it would be a welcome advance over the old tower.
Oh FFS. Are they re-inventing how to smelt aluminum to make this damn thing?
Anyone who cares will have moved on by the time they get around to slow-walking this thing out the door.
Anyone who cares will have moved on by the time they get around to slow-walking this thing out the door.
No doubt sidelined by more important projects—like new watchbands.
I still remember—as having made a mental note of it at the time—that in 2017 Apple effectively promised the release of a new Mac Pro this year, in 2018. But didn't actually guarantee that, only the insinuation.
So, maybe in 2019? 2020, anyone?
Yes, they show up as "Mac Pro (Late 2013)"
So if they stop selling in 2019 they should be supported through 2024. (Apple normally goes 5 years after last sale)
i miss the days when apple had a new pro machine upgrade yearly. This is embarrassing, to say the least.
Out of all the products that Apple design and build, this has got to be the easiest one to plan and develop right?
Just this furthers my suspicion that Apple had intended the iMac Pro to be the new Mac Pro. I think they had pulled the plug on further traditional Mac Pro development, shuttered the external display group, and decided to take a gamble on redefining what a "pro" workstation looked like. In many respects, they succeeded. Also, très Apple.
I'm not surprised by this new information about the mMP release date—they were probably starting from scratch last year.
I'm not surprised by this new information about the mMP release date—they were probably starting from scratch last year.
Congratulations the Apple of 2018 is now the IBM of 1980. At least in terms of the Mac.
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So, with nothing in 2018 in sight; I'll have my current MacPro for another year.
I will not buy a coffee can and have an expansion chassis and a tangle of wires for external drives.
My current MacPro does fine.
I will not buy a coffee can and have an expansion chassis and a tangle of wires for external drives.
My current MacPro does fine.
Apple's strength is taking concepts like these and filling in the missing pieces with innovative solutions to make them work seamlessly. Stacked Mac Minis already work in server farms so this doesn't look like an unsolvable problem. Perhaps an optical connection between stacked modules could be the fastest IO and macOS could then distribute tasks to different CPU units rather than have the processors attempt to work as one.