Apple's September 10 iPhone Media Event Said to Also Include New iPads [Updated]

[Count Blah]

This is unequivocally untrue relative to a dedicated reading device. Until iPads have e-ink technology (or something that is completely non-reflective), reading a book on an iPad/tablet vs a dedicated reading device (Kindle, nook, etc.) is as different as driving a car and flying an airplane.

For heavy readers there is a tangible difference. But for light readers, MANY can get by with using a tablet as a reader. The market is shrinking for exclusive readers because of this.

There are still Buggy Whip manufactures in existence, it's just that the market is tiny compared to the late 1800s.

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Are you saying it might have to connect to a network to unlock your phone via fingerprint? That would be ridiculous for many different reasons, principally being that storage space required for fingerprint recognition is so much less than that need for Siri. Why do that? (unless you believe the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists who would have you believe Apple is including this feature to give up our privacy info to the NSA).

Yeah, because tech companies have kept all user info under strict lock and key from the NSA

 

[darkfiber]

I'm ready. I sold my 3rd Gen 64GB iPad a few weeks ago on eBay. I am kind of torn on which iPad to get. Another full sized 64GB iPad or an iPad Mini (IF it has retina).

 

[JAT]

E-ink readers are a very specialized product, but as long as Samsung, LG & Co. don't invent a phone/tablet display which can switch between backlit LCD/LED/OLED and e-ink, they are here to stay with their crazy battery life and "like a printed book page" screens, believe me. And the solution to the eye fatigue of the OP simply isn't Retina – if he/she has these issues, e-ink is the way to go for an avid reader. Love my 185 gram Kobo Glo for reading, love my iPad for everything else...

Or people could learn to use color and lumens to stop the fatigue.

 

[giantfan1224]

This is unequivocally untrue relative to a dedicated reading device. Until iPads have e-ink technology (or something that is completely non-reflective), reading a book on an iPad/tablet vs a dedicated reading device (Kindle, nook, etc.) is as different as driving a car and flying an airplane.

I don't disagree that it's nicer to read from a Kindle than a tablet but the difference is not enough to get me to buy it AND carry it with me like I can just my iPad. Especially as much as I travel and crave traveling light.

 

[kingtj]

iPad vs. Mini

Yeah.... My work issued me a retina iPad last year and I found I was barely getting any use out of it. I already have a notebook computer which I prefer by far for working with email, web surfing, etc. when I go on a road trip.

For me, the iPad was more of a toy -- convenient for reading the latest news or surfing a few sites while lying in bed at night, but little else.

I exchanged it for an iPad Mini, recently, since I wanted to give that a try instead -- and so far, I find I use it more. The smaller size just makes it feel like it's nothing to grab it and use it randomly for little things throughout the day. I know it's not like the other one was such a chore to pick up or hold -- but there's some kind of psychological thing about the smaller size of the Mini, at least for me.

From a purely technical standpoint, the lack of the retina screen and less space to tap on buttons is a negative -- but for my use-cases, the smaller size wins out.

I will upgrade my iPad mini if there is a retina version. The more I use my mini, the less I want my full sized iPad. I won't be upgrading that past a 3.

 

[jav6454]

A7X along with the A7?

 

[bbeagle]

This is unequivocally untrue relative to a dedicated reading device. Until iPads have e-ink technology (or something that is completely non-reflective), reading a book on an iPad/tablet vs a dedicated reading device (Kindle, nook, etc.) is as different as driving a car and flying an airplane.

I read all the time on my tablet, and would NEVER consider an e-ink reader. I used those in the past, and cringe whenever I do.

I never read outside, only inside, so the e-ink does nothing for me. I find the e-ink reader experience very lacking. I enjoy reading a book, then the book steers me on a tangent. Hmmm.. Really? A centipede stings not bites? Let me look that up on the web. Okay. I'm back. What does 'centrifuge' mean? Let me look that up on the web. Okay. I'm back. A lot better reading experience for me. I've read books with dictionaries and encyclopedias around, and my switching back and forth is normal, and I enjoy it. But I can see how to others it would be distracting.

And I read a lot of tech books, which get me to watch videos about those subjects, and web sites with the most current information on those subjects. A lot easier on a tablet.

 

[Gudi]

E-ink readers are a very specialized product

And they get more special every day with every iPad sold. Amazon never published any Kindle sales numbers.
But it's safe to say, e-ink readers never were a big market to begin with and are now shrinking fast.

They are here to stay with their crazy battery life and "like a printed book page" screens, believe me.

I don't believe you. Retina displays look "like a printed magazine page" and have awesome battery life as well.

And the solution to the eye fatigue of the OP simply isn't Retina – if he/she has these issues, e-ink is the way to go for an avid reader.

Prior to tablets, e-ink readers were for everybody who reads, now only avid readers get enough benefit out of them, soon no one will use them anymore. Because they will go out of production before you can say „Netbook“.

Love my 185 gram Kobo Glo for reading, love my iPad for everything else...

Doesn't matter, obsolete technology is obsolete. You can love your old tech in a computer museum.

 

[Tiger8]

Doubt it

Apple would put at least a month between the iPhone and iPad so that they don't overshadow each other.

I think October is very like for iPad, this way they can make the most of the holiday rush

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E-ink readers are a very specialized product, but as long as Samsung, LG & Co. don't invent a phone/tablet display which can switch between backlit LCD/LED/OLED and e-ink, they are here to stay with their crazy battery life and "like a printed book page" screens, believe me. And the solution to the eye fatigue of the OP simply isn't Retina – if he/she has these issues, e-ink is the way to go for an avid reader. Love my 185 gram Kobo Glo for reading, love my iPad for everything else...

Very true, I love my Kindle eInk Reader, iPad screen is not for lengthy reading, also, too many distractions on the iPad for you to read and melt away in the book

 

[joelvega125]

Zero F's given on this one... Still the same boring OS (with hideous colors), same small 4 in screen...Apple really needs to step up their game

 

[BornAgainMac]

Gives one word answers on Apple rumors, one of the people most "in the know" when it comes to Apple stuff.

He was completely off this summer with iOS 7. He said the rumors were completely off when in fact the rumors were spot on. I won't trust him next time.

 

[TheFeeblizer]

My interests in order...

1. Macbook Pro
2. OS X Mavericks
3. iOS 7

Sadly I suspect this event will be iOS and iPhone only.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

There are good cases to be made for and against here but I'm going with the "for" side.

1) Cook, et al. have repeated that Apple has an "army of products" for the fall. For better or worse, Apple will have to vomit them out in a short time span between mid-Sep and mid-Oct. This is what happens when all of your major products are delayed until the end of the year.

2) Announcing and shipping are not synonymous with each other. Apple could announce both the iPhone and iPad at the same event, ship the iPhone 10 days later and then ship the iPad in early Oct ahead of the next event.

3) Last year Apple had an iOS event followed by a Mac event. This keeps the event's message focused on one OS and easy to understand, esp. for the non-tech press -- the ones that still refer to "IPOD" and "iTouch".

4) The iPad is a mature product. Most of the new functionality will be in the iOS7. Why would Apple want to rehash OS7 features again at the next event and when they are releasing Mavericks and, likely, the new MP. That would be a waste of valuable and limited presentation time.

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He was completely off this summer with iOS 7. He said the rumors were completely off when in fact the rumors were spot on. I won't trust him next time.

Is that really fair? Even Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron had their fair share of strikeouts. You can't expect a HR or even a single at every bat. We are talking about humans here.

 

[djra8]

thats nice... WHERE IS MY RMBP!

 

[verpeiler]

So we should see
Flagship iPhone 5S
New iPhone 5C
Flagship redesigned iPad 5
New iPad mini w/ retina
and iOS 7

All at the same event?

Why not? Most parts of iOS7 were already shown at WWDC.... presenting 2 phones nowadays shouldn't take THAT long. The days when the iPhone was the only long expected flagship phone are long gone. And it will be (just) a spec-bump S-version.
Same goes for the iPads, they'll present the iPad, one design, 2 sizes.. and now both (hopefully) with retina.

 

[Menneisyys2]

if that is true... i cant believe.... seems apple now gives all attention to the "toy-users" and leaves the "pro-users" behind.

about time for a rmbp refresh...

They've already done so 2 years ago when dropping the 17" MBP line...

 

[Benjamins]

They really should space out their releases.

 

[Woyzeck]

And they get more special every day with every iPad sold. Amazon never published any Kindle sales numbers.
But it's safe to say, e-ink readers never were a big market to begin with and are now shrinking fast.

I was on vacation in Greece recently (many guests from the UK, France and Italy). Most people had their Kindles on the beach (especially females). In fact I was very surprised to see their numbers. iPads are of no use in foreign countries where you usually have no flat rate, though.

I don't believe you. Retina displays look "like a printed magazine page" and have awesome battery life as well.

Well, my Kindle ran for the whole duration of my vacation (2 weeks) without seeing the power line. My iPad had to be recharged daily. The e-ink screen is definitely much better for reading text. And the best thing was that I could download three books without any wireless/3G hassle.

 

[chrizzz09]

I want the new Apple made Game-Controllers for iPhone and iPad!

 

[jdag]

I never read outside, only inside, so the e-ink does nothing for me.

Major key...a tablet can be nearly useless in sunny conditions. So if you do read outside, e-ink is a significantly better option.

And my comments about dedicated ereaders was really in response to someone indicating that they are useless. That is absolutely false. They are very useful, just a different tool with pros and cons relative to tablets.

 

[/dev/toaster]

There are good cases to be made for and against here but I'm going with the "for" side.

1) Cook, et al. have repeated that Apple has an "army of products" for the fall. For better or worse, Apple will have to vomit them out in a short time span between mid-Sep and mid-Oct. This is what happens when all of your major products are delayed until the end of the year.

2) Announcing and shipping are not synonymous with each other. Apple could announce both the iPhone and iPad at the same event, ship the iPhone 10 days later and then ship the iPad in early Oct ahead of the next event.

3) Last year Apple had an iOS event followed by a Mac event. This keeps the event's message focused on one OS and easy to understand, esp. for the non-tech press -- the ones that still refer to "IPOD" and "iTouch".

4) The iPad is a mature product. Most of the new functionality will be in the iOS7. Why would Apple want to rehash OS7 features again at the next event and when they are releasing Mavericks and, likely, the new MP. That would be a waste of valuable and limited presentation time.

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Is that really fair? Even Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron had their fair share of strikeouts. You can't expect a HR or even a single at every bat. We are talking about humans here.

I really hope they announce orders for the new Mac Pro.

 

[V.K.]

I'm not sure it's a very smart move to be releasing all their products(iphone, iPad and macbook pro) within the same quarter, even if it's just before the holiday season... People like to spread their costs throughout the year. If you're well off, great, you can afford your entire apple fix in october, but for the aspirational lot, it's a better proposition to have a device released every quarter or two...

If you're an Apple fan on an upgrade year, this october is going to be very expensive...

+1. Also, updating pretty much the entire product lineup in a space of about 3 months (and introducing some totally new products) is pretty much certain to create production and supply chain issues like what happened with the iMac the last time around. Apple really needs to get back to spreading product updates throughout the whole year.

 

[ziggie216]

Every year, someone would mention this and yet we all know it wont happen. In tomorrow's rumor news, iWatch and iTV will be announce as well on Sept 10.

 

[Cali Fornia]

I have no opinion on when those products will be announced (or rather if iPhones and iPads are supposed to be released on the same event), but I guess the final line up will look something like this:

iPad 5 – $ 499/599/699 (32/64/128 GB) (faster, new design, more GB, fingerprint)
iPad 2 – $ 299 (16 GB) (lower price)

iPad mini 2 – $ 329/429/529 (16/32/64 GB) (faster, Retina, no fingerprint)
iPad mini – $ 229 (8 GB) (lower price, fewer GB)

iPhone 5S – $ 199/299/399 (32/64/128 GB) (fingerprint, dual-flash, NFC)
iPhone 5C – $ 0/99 (8/16 GB) (iPhone 5 components, cheaper plastic build)

 

[lars666]

And they get more special every day with every iPad sold. Amazon never published any Kindle sales numbers.
But it's safe to say, e-ink readers never were a big market to begin with and are now shrinking fast.

Of course, e-ink reader were never NEAR any potential of a tablet because of their specialized purpose. Do we really have to argue about this? I can't change that much less people read books than play Angry Birds, watching videos or listen to mp3s, sorry. (Believe me: If I could, I would.) E-Book reader sell very good for what they are built, and that's the only standard of valuation.

I don't believe you. Retina displays look "like a printed magazine page" and have awesome battery life as well.

It not the dpi sharpness, it's the lack of the backlit in a real e-book reader. If it doesn't matter for your eyes (or if you don't read longer books) - fine. Others have problems with it so don't be ignorant and try to open your mind a little bit for other needs and purposes. As to the battery life: Don't make yourself ridiculous and compare how long you can use a fully charged Kindle, Kobo etc. for reading a book in comparison to an iPhone/iPad. (and saving battery for doing all the tasks on your iOS device which it does better, by the way.)

Prior to tablets, e-ink readers were for everybody who reads, now only avid readers get enough benefit out of them, soon no one will use them anymore. Because they will go out of production before you can say „Netbook“. Obsolete technology is obsolete. You can love your old tech in a computer museum.

Sigh. Yeah, whatever ... As mentioned before: Come back when Samsung invented a combined LED/e-ink display and we can talk again. For further inspiration, read the other responses concerning the e-reader question. And have fun reading your books on a sunny day outside on your iPad.

Please excuse me, I have to bring my wrist watch to the computer museum now. My iPad also has a clock inside.