Apple's September Quarter Mac Sales Projected to be "Massive"

[CWallace]

We are a gerbils whisker away from the 15 million macs per year that I predicted for 2009.

I think were going to be looking at 25 million in 2010.

Microsoft are already 10 years to late in trying to stop this runaway train...

Good numbers, to be sure, but let us not forget Microsoft pushes hundreds of millions of Windows licenses a year out the door. Just last quarter they shoveled 50 million Vista licenses alone.

MS may not be able to stop the train, but they're so far ahead on the tracks, they likely don't care.

 

[Drumjim85]

And she really bangs on hers hard, a few hours a day in the summer and several hours a day during the school year.

 

[cameronjpu]

And still stock is down $2.46 right now.

That's because this is not news, it is an opinion. Once it is official, or once the market believes it more importantly, the stock will reflect it. That is, if it doesn't already know it (which it probably does )

 

[137489]

iWork is more comparable to Microsoft Works than Microsoft Office. It's a combination of a basic home publishing/word processing program (with fewer features than Word), a basic spreadsheet (with fewer features than Excel), and a very nice presentation program (with fewer features, but a better aesthetic, than Powerpoint).

No, it's not free; usually $79 (I think you can get it cheaper at school).

I'd recommend the MacBook for a student; it's $1099, but very upgradeable (unlike many other Macs).

I like your anaolgy of office vs iwork. Yeah, iWork is lacking in some areas. I use them both together. Reason - the new office 2007 (windows) has some issues. sometimes I bring a document into office for features, other times i bring it into iwork to spruce it up. I am not really sure if they fixed all the problems with office 2008 for the mac.

Yes, go with a macbook. I am a late student (ie pushing 40 and going to seminary 1 class per semester). I also work full time as a DBA for MS-SQL, and also have a ministry. I have a high end white macbook (see sig below). It has been perfect for my needs.

 

[Peel]

AlleyInsider reports that RBC analyst Mike Abramsky is projecting that Apple will ship 3.04 million Macs in the current quarter than ranges from July to September.

That's because this is not news, it is an opinion. Once it is official, or once the market believes it more importantly, the stock will reflect it. That is, if it doesn't already know it (which it probably does )

Of course now if they only manage to sell 3.03 million, Wall Street will be dissapointed, and Apple's stock will fall.

 

[Bubba Satori]

i don't feel special anymore for owning a mac.

 

[137489]

Oh yea, I forgot to ask. I am a Mac newbie. Is this iworks bascially like microsoft office? Is it not normally included and is it included as part of the back to school promo? If I wait, do I not get it on the new model? Still toying of Dell vs Apple, but it's granny's $$ (not that I have unlimited $$-but $100-200 won't bother her either way-still thinking lower end Mac though as Dell can be had for $850 with all I need)

STAY AWAY FROM DELL!!!!

Did I say it loud enough?? Every Dell I have ever had (work, Personal, or repaired for people) stink. The laptops tend to die after 1 year (especially the LCD on the XPS models). Dell is random thrown together parts. Just search for my posts - I posted a lot on this furom and different threads. If you really want Windows (and God Only knows Why......) Get a macbook and run bootcamp / parallels / or fusions.

GO TO MACMALL.COM. They have good prices, will pre-condfigure it, will ship the same or next day, and do not charge sales tax. That is where I got mine from. I love it..... Oh Yes, and don't forget your Applecare warrenty. May be a few extra $100, but you will not be sorry if anything happens to your machine in the next 3 years.

 

[cameronjpu]

What about a new mac desktop?

I bet the big sticking point, in Apple's eyes, of a headless desktop is that people will buy their own, BLACK monitor to go with it. Thus, Apple loses the instant recognition factor that they have always enjoyed with the iMac line. I bet if they could figure out some way to get people to buy only white monitors, and to prevent PC users from buying the same, they'd be all about it

 

[wadejc85]

Haha!

 

[surferfromuk]

Good numbers, to be sure, but let us not forget Microsoft pushes hundreds of millions of Windows licenses a year out the door. Just last quarter they shoveled 50 million Vista licenses alone.

MS may not be able to stop the train, but they're so far ahead on the tracks, they likely don't care.

True but even the long terrible dark ages ended with a renaissance!

 

[cameronjpu]

Of course now if they only manage to sell 3.03 million, Wall Street will be dissapointed, and Apple's stock will fall.

The stock may fall, but it will have nothing to do with this news report. Stocks rise and fall on expectations for the future. Clearly the market already expected at least what was predicted today, OR doesn't believe it. People who think that the market is somehow fixed against their favorite company are idiots.

 

[Westside guy]

Uh, yeah, sure. My donkey and wagon are just as good as my neighbors BMW. I'm sure your PowerPC is fine for email but it can't render web pages quickly. Watching someone suffer to prove a bad point is one of the best forms of schadenfreude.

Nothing personal, but you've got no idea what you're talking about. I'm a web developer (yeah, I'm posting from work; so sue me). The Powerbook has no trouble rendering web pages (even complex ones) quickly. When I'm writing perl, it runs BBEdit just fine. When I need to do templating, it runs Dreamweaver just fine. It even runs Photoshop just fine.

The one app that it has trouble with is Aperture; but I don't use that for work.

Your post reminds me of those silly Dell catalogs that I've been getting for the last decade. It used to be that the Pentium 2 machines were "great for email and web", but they recommended the Pentium 3s if you were doing anything more complex than that. Then, not all that much later, suddenly the P3s were the "great for email and web" machines, but if wanted to do more you needed a Pentium 4. And so on, and so on... Now a 2GHz Core 2 Duo is "great for email and web", but if you want to do more...

Advances in processing power have been outstripping the requirements of most software for quite a few years now. Memory, more often, is the constraining factor when it comes to apps running acceptably fast.

 

[cameronjpu]

STAY AWAY FROM DELL!!!!

Did I say it loud enough?? Every Dell I have ever had (work, Personal, or repaired for people) stink. The laptops tend to die after 1 year (especially the LCD on the XPS models). Dell is random thrown together parts. Just search for my posts - I posted a lot on this furom and different threads. If you really want Windows (and God Only knows Why......) Get a macbook and run bootcamp / parallels / or fusions.

GO TO MACMALL.COM. They have good prices, will pre-condfigure it, will ship the same or next day, and do not charge sales tax. That is where I got mine from. I love it..... Oh Yes, and don't forget your Applecare warrenty. May be a few extra $100, but you will not be sorry if anything happens to your machine in the next 3 years.

That's too bad - I support hundreds of Dells across many hundreds of users (individual owners and a few dozen businesses) and I have never had a consistent problem with them. A few failed systems here and there, caused by bad motherboards or hard drives, but a tiny percentage of the total. You must have some REALLY bad luck (that or maybe you let your personal opinions color your diagnosis)....

 

[scotty96LSC]

I like the term halo effect for part of this prediction. I feel when people get their hands on their first Apple product, many times an iPod, it does bring them back to look at what else is offered. The success of the iPod contributes a lot to the success of the mac computer I feel.
Good news for Apple and my stocks.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Salestax is 19% in The Netherlands and yes Apple does tend to cost more in Europe the specific prices vary per country however (as does the salestaxpercentage).

Doesn't almost everything cost more in Europe? I don't understand why Apple products are singled out so often when you are probably paying more for all consumer electronics, especially if the currently weak dollar is considered.

 

[jbernie]

If the report is accurate then it is very good news for Apple, if the report is wrong/incorrect by say 10% or more then the market could react unfavourably towards the stock. Lets hope they got it right.

 

[mamcx]

You worry by 16%? In Colombia a apple machine cost 40 - 45% more! and that is plus the higer cost of apple....

I'm close to get one and the diference between the average brand new high-end machine (+/- US 800 / 1.500.000 COL) and the next bottom-end macbook or imac (+/- US 1500 / 2.700.000 COL) is huge.

 

[137489]

That's too bad - I support hundreds of Dells across many hundreds of users (individual owners and a few dozen businesses) and I have never had a consistent problem with them. A few failed systems here and there, caused by bad motherboards or hard drives, but a tiny percentage of the total. You must have some REALLY bad luck (that or maybe you let your personal opinions color your diagnosis)....

1. user in Needham Mass - He had to rebuild the desktop system every couple of months, now bought a Sony Vaio laptop out of his own pocket as a backup work computer because he said no way to a Dell, even at corporate discount pricing.

2. User in Worcester Mass - Every night at 7:00pm BSOD, even ops cannot figure out why.

3. My Worship Pastor - 1 year old XSP. a $1400 laptop dead inverter board or LCD backlight. Dell will only sell the LCD, backlight, and inverter as a whole. Cost $420 - waited 3 weeks and 2 cancelled orders and they still could not guarantee a delivery in 30 days.

4. My Dell tower for work (a 4 month old machine). Power supply making horrible noise, fan quit working and machine came to a crawl. Dell contracted company installed new one. 2 days later the Motherboard, harddrive blew. the contracted employee also forgot to plug in a few parts and I had to open the case and reseat 3 cables just to get it to boot up correctly.

5. 2 years ago I worked for a company. We had 50 Dell towers in the one building alone. Every one of them blew a power supply within one year, one machine blew 3 a year. All of the same computers - all the front USB's stopped working.

6. Same company, Dell servers Crashing and down for days. they since started switching to IBM.

7. Most of the hospitals I support are running Dell Servers - getting memory errors in MS-SQL, yet it is a 4 gb machine with 3 gb free.

8. Friends who asked me for help as their computers are giving issues - most are Dell computers with issues ranging from bad hard drives, failed CD drives, or dim LCD's, or numerous OS errors - all just a week to 1 month outside of the 1 yr warrenty. They came to me for help afte getting the run around from Dell

9. My own Dell XSP - Never did burn DVD's from Day 1. Dell could not figure it out and offered to put in a new drive for $200. What? IT was under warrenty... they would not allow me to return the machine for a new one. Hard drive suffered an error that corrupted a windows file. Luckily reformatting the drive allowed it to bypass that bad sector. 2 years old to the date.... LCD got an internal crack in it. It was fine. I left it running something, came back and I had black messed up pixels. Upon rebooting, when the screen was still black on the Windows Startup screen, I could see the crack.


Need I go on? Bad Luck? Personal Opinion? Just google on Dell problems <insert your problem> or google "DELL NY COUMO LAWSUIT"

bETTER YET - HERE IS THE LINK:
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/may/may27a_08.html

 

[IJ Reilly]

If the report is accurate then it is very good news for Apple, if the report is wrong/incorrect by say 10% or more then the market could react unfavourably towards the stock. Lets hope they got it right.

Traders tend not to pay much attention to these sorts of sales estimates anyway. What they really want to see is EPS and forecasts for EPS.

 

[cameronjpu]

1. user in Needham Mass -

Need I go on? Bad Luck? Personal Opinion? Just google on Dell problems <insert your problem> or google "DELL NY COUMO LAWSUIT"

Dunno, maybe just bad Karma. I have no reason to think you're lying, besides the obvious (that your experience is SO far outside the norm, and you make no attempt to hide your Apple-fandom). So, assuming you're telling the truth, then we have a couple options - bad luck, yes, always possible. Several of the problems you listed were not Dell's fault, as you said, the fault of a bad contractor (#4), software problems outside Dell's control (#7), faulty building power systems (#5), problems made to seem common simply because Dell is the most popular computer in the world (#8).

You've clearly made up your mind, but you're a wacko if you believe your experience is typical.

 

[SchneiderMan]

go go go go

 

[137489]

Dunno, maybe just bad Karma. I have no reason to think you're lying, besides the obvious (that your experience is SO far outside the norm). So, assuming you're telling the truth, then we have a couple options - bad luck, yes, always possible. Several of the problems you listed were not Dell's fault, as you said, the fault of a bad contractor (#4), software problems outside Dell's control (#7), faulty building power systems (#5), problems made to seem common simply because Dell is the most popular computer in the world (#8).

You've clearly made up your mind, but you're a wacko if you believe your experience is typical.

Like I said, just google - there must be a world full of wackos; hmm or is it Dell stinks. I know too many people, personally. Just look

I would actually have liked to post the actual links but there is just a way too many..... Just google the exact words I have below and see all the results appear before your eyes. And that is just the tip of the iceburg.

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 15,000,000 for Dell problems.
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,470,000 for Dell bad lcd
Results 1 - 10 of about 114,000 for dell laptop lcd fails after 1 year
Results 1 - 10 of about 394,000 for Dell USB Fail
Results 1 - 10 of about 824,000 for Dell Harddrive fail
Results 1 - 10 of about 419,000 for Dell bad customer service.
Results 1 - 10 of about 363,000 for Dell bad DVD

The problem with Dell is that they are a dunch of thrown together cheap parts that Dell can aquire at once. Rarely had I ever ran across a machine that had the same parts in it - even with the same model number. Just an example of my now Dead Dell machine's internals:

Samsung LCD
Westerd Digital Hard Drive
Phillips DVD
Kingston memory (one Chip)
PNY Memory (the other chip)

#5 had nothing to do with the building's power - I just gave an example of the building I was in. That company had Patient Service Centers all over the USA, and several buildings in the burlington, NC and RTP, NC area alone with 100's of computers. The poor ops people were running crazy trying to service them all. It got to a point were Dell would not send a contractor out anymore. they said "Well, you buy so many computers from us - here are the parts. Install them yourself and return the failed parts". At times it got so bad, and they had to wait so long on parts, they took all the good parts out of some machines and assembled their own machine and then sent back to Dell machines that every part was bad. Dell gave them permission to do that because we were going through them so fast.

Funny, they also used IBM, some Apple G3's (the tower with the neon plastic parts), and a couple of HP here or there. the only reason they went with Dell is due to the discount given, because of the share number of computers they were buying. A company with several thousand people world wide and replacing computers every 2-5 years. Which also does not include all the servers world wide.

Never heard to many complaints out of the IBM's, Unix Boxes, Apples, etc.

 

[gkarris]

That's too bad - I support hundreds of Dells across many hundreds of users (individual owners and a few dozen businesses) and I have never had a consistent problem with them. A few failed systems here and there, caused by bad motherboards or hard drives, but a tiny percentage of the total. You must have some REALLY bad luck (that or maybe you let your personal opinions color your diagnosis)....

I support hundreds in our global corporation. HP is running about 5% with problems. 100% of our Dells have problems, a good 50% of them with multiple problems...

I recommend Dell to the people I hate...

 

[thecartoonguy]

STAY AWAY FROM DELL!!!!

Did I say it loud enough?? Every Dell I have ever had (work, Personal, or repaired for people) stink. The laptops tend to die after 1 year (especially the LCD on the XPS models). Dell is random thrown together parts. Just search for my posts - I posted a lot on this furom and different threads. If you really want Windows (and God Only knows Why......) Get a macbook and run bootcamp / parallels / or fusions.

GO TO MACMALL.COM. They have good prices, will pre-condfigure it, will ship the same or next day, and do not charge sales tax. That is where I got mine from. I love it..... Oh Yes, and don't forget your Applecare warrenty. May be a few extra $100, but you will not be sorry if anything happens to your machine in the next 3 years.

Indeed! Fusion is the way to go as it can run 64 bit apps, and it will run on just about any O/S.

 

[jlbunting]

The halo effect describes me

The halo effect describes me. I got a iPhone and was so impressed. I sold my 6 month old windows laptop and got a mac book pro. I love it. Was a windows user for 15 years until I switched because of the iPhone.