Apple's Share of Computer Sales Surpasses 10% in U.S.

[azurebat]

Nice overall gain. But I don't think the overall PC market share is their focus. Wasn't there a report earlier this year that they have something like 90% of the premium market share (Systems over $1K)?

I still think it is funny to call it the premium market. It is the premium priced market. There are way too many PC's out there with more power, features, etc... But call it what you like to feel better and that is fine.

Good job Apple, but please always remain a niche. I enjoy my malware-free computing experience.

I think Apple is going to have a problem saying a niche as time passes. But how do you grow like some on here want Apple to (to do away with MS apparently) and stay a niche market of 'premium' Pc's?

 

[SandynJosh]

All that says is some young people that visit Starbucks use macs.
Says more about the type of person using a Mac and drinks what coffee than what is the total count in the worlds population of mac devices.

'coffee shops' I go to people go to for coffee and to just sit and relax, not to show people they have a Mac. So, from that same comparison you could say no one has a computer. Which we know is not true.

Actually, I hardly ever go to Starbucks. I go to non-franchised coffee shops that are more frequented by college students and work-from-home business people. I would generally characterize them as people-who-chose-a-computer, rather then people-who-were-issued-a-computer.
I can't say anyone in the coffee shops I frequent is there to "just sit and relax", they are worker bees.

 

[Mainyehc]

sorry.

[/sarcasm]

there we go.

Well... He's maybe just being sarcastic, but the other day the strangest thing happened: I'm the monitor of the Mac room at my faculty, and I had the biggest argument with the IT guy (he's a Windows expert and knows nothing about Macs, but he handles all the PCs over there and also the network), as he insisted my Mac Pro running Leopard (10.5.8) was opening way too many ports and sending way too many packets over the network, thus crashing the firewall in the process...

I've sworn that I hadn't installed anything vaguely suspicious in months (and I really didn't, at least consciously, so if it was a trojan it was very well disguised because I'm not the kind of guy that falls easily for social engineering crap), to no avail; he temporarily blocked my machine's MAC address, until I found a solution for that issue (and reformatting the startup volume was NOT an option, as I didn't have an updated external backup anyway)... And much to my chagrin, he kept insisting that my machine must've been infected with some kind of malware, just to be met with my firm denial (am I on denial?).

That Leopard installation was still from my old Rev.A iMac G5 hard drive upgrade, partitioned under an Apple Partition Table (and not GUID, which prevented me from upgrading the boot volume to Snow Leopard without reformatting all the other volumes in the process), but fortunately I just added it alongside the Mac Pro's original hard drive which I did upgrade to Snow Leopard.

Booting from that original volume apparently fixed the problem, and everything's been fine ever since, even after I painstakingly reinstalled all my essential software (fully-legal CS5 Master Collection FTW, yay!) and transferred over my work-related stuff, personal e-mail accounts and iTunes library (hey, I absolutely need music to be a happy and productive worker )...

I still haven't run ClamXav on that other drive (which I will eventually do, evidently unplugged from the network, if not out of sheer curiosity), but I was scared enough to install and use it at least on my home computer (funnily enough, I found a few old Office macro viruses on the process, no biggie). Maybe I did have some OS X-specific dormant malware installed on my work computer, because I really can't find another explanation for what happened... If you know of some other possible causes (could it be hardware-related? But, then again, after booting from another volume the problem was gone for good!) for such random behavior, feel free to chime in!

Sure enough and for good measure, I've also installed it and will be configuring it on the other Mac room I'm also managing, the Communication Design Master's room in which I also study now, and will do the same on the main room after our new iMacs arrive (I'm not really bothering much with a bunch of old PowerMac G5s running Leopard, though, as they haven't been giving any trouble anyway).

 

[iJandro]

I had a chance to buy-in when Steve was in the hospital at $50, per share and turned it down...I still regret it to this day. Curse my starving student status at the time! GAH!

 

[Gauthic]

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[Richard1028]

Nothing to brag about...

1 out of every 10 computers runs OSX. Still a flailing minority if you ask me.

 

[dejo]

Actually, I hardly ever go to Starbucks. I go to non-franchised coffee shops that are more frequented by college students and work-from-home business people.

Oh, don't let reality mess up a good ol' azurebat stereotype.

 

[azurebat]

Actually, I hardly ever go to Starbucks. I go to non-franchised coffee shops that are more frequented by college students and work-from-home business people. I would generally characterize them as people-who-chose-a-computer, rather then people-who-were-issued-a-computer.
I can't say anyone in the coffee shops I frequent is there to "just sit and relax", they are worker bees.

So, those that have a computer other than an Apple in any coffee shop as you describe are "issued" a computer by a non Apple thinking entity or are incapable of making the perfect decision to own an Apple. Okay, got it...

Oh, don't let reality mess up a good ol' azurebat stereotype.

Some of you guys are far from reality.

 

[SandynJosh]

I still think it is funny to call it the premium market. It is the premium priced market. There are way too many PC's out there with more power, features, etc... But call it what you like to feel better and that is fine.

The premium market is characterized not by spec sheets but by user experience. If you enjoy digging into the guts of your computer, de-fragmenting hard drives, cleaning out malware, trouble-shooting drivers and certificates, then you wouldn't enjoy a premium experience.

The premium market also doesn't include computers designed for a price point in the sub-thousand dollar arena of no-name brands or the low end branded portables.

PC World recently summed up what I'm talking about so well that I included it in my sig file.

 

[OllyW]

1 out of every 10 computers runs OSX. Still a flailing minority if you ask me.

No, only about 1 in 20 run OS X. It's 1 in 10 for computers currently sold in the US.

 

[LagunaSol]

I still think it is funny to call it the premium market. It is the premium priced market. There are way too many PC's out there with more power, features, etc... But call it what you like to feel better and that is fine.

I know, huh. My Casio is way more premium than a Rolex because it has a calculator on it.

BTW, I have an employer-issued HP laptop that runs in the same price range as the MBP. The thing is a pile of cheap junk. The MBP is a far more "premium" machine than this EliteBook turd. And not much more expensive.

But hey, my HP has a popout keyboard light (literally a tiny light that cheaply pops out of the top of the display). Since this is a "feature" the MBP does not have, I guess this makes the HP more premium by your definition.

 

[SandynJosh]

So, those that have a computer other than an Apple in any coffee shop as you describe are "issued" a computer by a non Apple thinking entity or are incapable of making the perfect decision to own an Apple. Okay, got it...

I'm not your sock puppet. Since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, I'll try once more to clarify.

Of the people who choose their own computer; that being students and self-employed, who frequent coffee shops, it seems that more then 50% chose Macs.

When that choice is not there, they are much more likely to be using a PC.

 

[SockRolid]

Break consumer number out and it's probably more

I don't see Gartner differentiating overall market share from consumer market share and business market share. I would expect Mac consumer market share to be far higher than 10%, and business market share to be somewhat below 10%.

For example, in May 2009, Apple sold 91% of personal computers sold to consumers at retail for more than $1000.

http://bit.ly/9cVKbU

 

[gnasher729]

I still think it is funny to call it the premium market. It is the premium priced market. There are way too many PC's out there with more power, features, etc... But call it what you like to feel better and that is fine.

OK. Here's the challenge: My rather outdated MacPro at work has two quad core 2.8 GHz processors. Anyone here using a PC at work, or at home, that is more powerful? Next question: How many PC laptops are actually sold that would be more powerful than the entry level MacBook Pro? How many if you don't count gamers? Next question: Which all-in-one computer that isn't made by Apple ships with a 27" 2560x1440 pixel display?

 

[SandynJosh]

... the other day the strangest thing happened: I'm the monitor of the Mac room at my faculty, and I had the biggest argument with the IT guy (he's a Windows expert and knows nothing about Macs, but he handles all the PCs over there and also the network), as he insisted my Mac Pro running Leopard (10.5.8) was opening way too many ports and sending way too many packets over the network, thus crashing the firewall in the process...

Well, this is not the thread to go into anything, but I seem to remember hearing about this phenomenon. Go to Apple's web site and do some searching on their forum. I think you will find something.

 

[azurebat]

I know, huh. b.

BTW, I have an employer-issued HP laptop that runs in the same price range as the MBP. The thing is a pile of cheap junk. The MBP is a far more "premium" machine than this EliteBook turd. And not much more expensive.

But hey, my HP has a popout keyboard light (literally a tiny light that cheaply pops out of the top of the display). Since this is a "feature" the MBP does not have, I guess this makes the HP more premium by your definition.

HTF is that even relevant to this conversation? Oh, I see you changed the stupid comparison. So the HP business notebook was over 2 grand? How much of a laptop do you need to check email? at work? or are you one of those oh so important folks that have to have a loaded up laptop to cruise the internet forums at work?

This is a waste of time.

All threads should have their first post as "Apple wins" then close the thread. The rest is a total waste of time and respect for anyone else's opinion. Nice stereotype going here.. And I use macs sadly!

 

[crackbookpro]

Bout time... Getting the new MBP in the next month or so when it debuts!

 

[Rocketman]

What crazy person made that chart? The labels on the left are different increments. Twice.



Rocketman

 

[SandynJosh]

I don't see Gartner differentiating overall market share from consumer market share and business market share. I would expect Mac consumer market share to be far higher than 10%, and business market share to be somewhat below 10%.

For example, in May 2009, Apple sold 91% of personal computers sold to consumers at retail for more than $1000.

There's a lot of ways to cut up the pie, but in general, I agree with you. If, however you were to look at how many +$1000 computers Apple sells to gamers, it would be a low number. Also Apple is very strong in the portable computer area, and weaker in the desktop sets.

If I were to guess at Apple's market strategy, I'd say that they avoid any segment that is, or is about to be a commodity product area or a mature market segment.

They see that as mobile devices, especially where they can lead the market. That's essentially what they've done with the iPhone, iPod Touch, and now with the iPad.

 

[puttputt]

Must be a typo: Apple's market share is 100%. In my office.

 

[SandynJosh]

Are these sell through numbers or shipment numbers? Since Apple basically sells to itself, it could always just ship a load of stock to Apple retail stores and let them sit there, technically. I kinda wonder how Apple reports their numbers...

Actually, I think these numbers are closely linked to examining the entrails of a ritually-killed mammal.

Apple gets no love each holiday season. Their market share takes a sharp market drop in each Q4.

Only their market share of Macs. They do well on iPods, including the Touch during the holiday season. I'd wager that the iPad sales will blow the doors off this Christmas.

the list looks like it is only saying Apple hardware out there is at 10% market share correct? the actual market share for OS X should still be in the sub 10% range right?

While it is titled as Apple Market Share, the article says it is only comparing PCs to Macs.

I know, a bit confusing unless you read it carefully.

 

[Mainyehc]

Well, this is not the thread to go into anything, but I seem to remember hearing about this phenomenon. Go to Apple's web site and do some searching on their forum. I think you will find something.

Heh... Yeah, I know. Sorry, I got a bit carried away!

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it.

 

[chaosconan]

Man, if only apple supported game developers to the fullest, I bet that market share would have been as high as 20%.

 

[Yamcha]

Good to see Apple increase market share. Proves 90% of people living in this country and the rest of the world are still dumber than a rock though.

Thats a silly thing to say, just because 90% of all computer users use a Windows PC doesn't mean they are dumb . For one most people are using PC's because they are cheaper, and have the most application and game support out there. Also keep in mind a lot of enthusiasts use PC's, infact I'd have to say some people if not most people using macs are not proficient in computers, but they can use a Mac easily because its very user friendly. So I personally think that heavy Windows users are probably much smarter then the average Mac user, because the Windows user experience requires more of a learning curve..

And I also say that because, there are a lot of advanced Windows users know how to resolve the problems a new computer user might run in to. I have a lot of friends who have no clue how to use a PC, they end up getting viruses and spyware, and I usually end up fixing it for them . And thats typically why new computer users switch to a Macintosh, because they are not aware on how to avoid or resolve the problems they are having..

I'd love to see Apple grow more, but again even the Mac Mini isn't the most affordable setup out there. $699(USD) for a system without a monitor or peripherals its still quite expensive. I know Apple has great design, but I think they should focus on making a more affordable desktop solution, instead of using expensive materials like aluminum, why not make a mac with plastic like Apple did in the past with there macbook lines..

 

[Beric]

I'm not your sock puppet. Since you seem to have a reading comprehension problem, I'll try once more to clarify.

Of the people who choose their own computer; that being students and self-employed, who frequent coffee shops, it seems that more then 50% chose Macs.

When that choice is not there, they are much more likely to be using a PC.

Mac users are more affluent. Macs and Starbucks are both luxury products. Why am I not surprised?