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Apple's Share of Computer Sales Surpasses 10% in U.S.
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No...the number of people who buy Macs and only run Windows on them is statistically insignificant.
--Eric
Base-model laptops for $2500+ ??? That must have been in the late '80s or early '90s. I bought my second Mac Laptop, running OSX in 2003 or earlier for $700. (10" MB 700MHz G3)
It's been a LOOOONNNG time since Apple's been at the "bottom of the barrel" with laptops...8 years or so. I suspect you may be suffering from Rip Van Winkleitus. Better check your calendar, mine says 2010.
Oh, and Scully is out; Jobs is back.
Yes there's a distinction between the casual typist and the tapaholic or productivity requirement...
And most people who'd hook up with an iPad are not looking for high volume output via keyboard... that's the difference.
The approach to using a touch screen for creating textual content would seem to lay in a form of aggregation, ease of collection and consolidation of textual content. But also by nature, touch screens inherently, for now, wont provide high volume text input. This would probably be better served via voice or gestures.
Touch screen gestures are still in their infancy for now given a new mantra of content creation. We'll see.
Dumber then a rocK?
First: 90% is for the USA, those "dumber then a rock" would be a lot higher anywhere outside of the USA.
Second, I am working at home with both a imac 21.5" and a windows PC I build myself, and I got to say I prefer for most tasks the windows PC machine.
The Imac is now for the children and as home media center.
Dont think your experience are the same as everyone elses or your ideas MUST be the only valid ones.
If you want to show Apple breaking 10% market share in a graph, then at least format said graph so that it actually shows a 10% value. Sure, the precise value can be read from the table, but is it really that hard to edit the graph to show what you wanted to show in the first place?
He is taller than the man standing next to him.
If he arrives late, then all hell will break loose.
If you quote, then try to quote correctly. The poster you cited, correctly wrote dumber than a rock. Remember it like this: than is an expression of comparison, while then is an expression of time. Please understand that I'm not trying to bash you, I just want you to understand the difference. See below.
He is taller than the man standing next to him.
If he arrives late, then all hell will break loose.
Underestimating? Did you try attaching a flash stick to this super computer? The cheapest netbook can do much more than iPad. Sure iPad owners are very creative in overcoming the obstacles. But what else could they do? Spend $800 and then discover that this thing is a little more than a graphic calculator? This will stimulate your creativity
I don't think you will ever get it, but just repeating once more: It doesn't matter what the computer can do, what matters is what the user can do with it. And millions of people can do lots more with an iPad than they could ever do with any netbook.
Apple's growth in market share comes to some extent from the fact that every iPad sold is one netbook not sold. And those numbers are significant. No wonder the Acer CEO was badmouthing Apple and iPad, because the iPad cost them so badly in sales.
So, let me get this right...
This now means we are going to get more viruses right? Because everybody keeps going on about OS X not having viruses solely because of market share?
Although personally, I don't see how that works when there were no viruses at 6%, and no viruses at 9%.
At which point do the smug and ignorant say we all have to watch out? 15%? 30%? 50%?
Give me a break.
This now means we are going to get more viruses right? Because everybody keeps going on about OS X not having viruses solely because of market share?
Although personally, I don't see how that works when there were no viruses at 6%, and no viruses at 9%.
At which point do the smug and ignorant say we all have to watch out? 15%? 30%? 50%?
Give me a break.
Macs don't really make much sense in an enterprise setting. It's hard to get qualified system administrators and the tools are not as good, nor as mature as the windows administration tools.
A major problem is that Apple refuses to tell anyone about their plans in advance. That simply isn't acceptable for most companies.
Most employees use the computer for internet and office, anyway. What would macs buy a company? Professional system administrators keep the computers virus free so that's not it.
For the enterprise to switch from (mostly) Windows to Macs there has to be a compelling reason. A compelling reason involves saving money or making more money. There isn't one.
It's not been stodgy. It's being sensible.
Ah but is it a case of Apple's selling less machines or everyone else selling a lot more as Xmas pressies...
I hope you'll forgive the indulgence but I'm constantly amazed at Apple's performance. I personally think a lot of their range is pretty good value for money (the iMac's in particular are very reasonably priced and the Mac Pro has always been price competitive with other workstations) but there's no getting away from the fact they're high priced 'luxury' machines. And yet they're getting 10% of the US market. That's just extraordinary and is very bad news for the rest of the PC industry as it probably doesn't leave a lot of room in that high profit margain top end.
Apple's Q4 covers the months of July, August and September.
Sales for the Xmas holiday period are in Q1.
Bloody Spin
I don't want to get in the way of all the high-fives here but this 10% figure is pretty meaningless because it only reflects the US market. Globally, Apple appears to be pretty much nowhere and that's the statistic that is important. Since Apple isn't even listed for the global market statistics we have no idea how far down the list they actually are.
This is incorrect. Apple was unable to break into the top six computer manufacturers and Asus and Toshiba were fighting over 5th and 6th place with HP, Acer, Dell and Lenovo ahead of them.
I don't want to get in the way of all the high-fives here but this 10% figure is pretty meaningless because it only reflects the US market. Globally, Apple appears to be pretty much nowhere and that's the statistic that is important. Since Apple isn't even listed for the global market statistics we have no idea how far down the list they actually are.
This is incorrect. Apple was unable to break into the top six computer manufacturers and Asus and Toshiba were fighting over 5th and 6th place with HP, Acer, Dell and Lenovo ahead of them.
What I would say to that is we don't actually know what they measure as a computer. If they measure mobile pcs then surely the iPad should be measured too and then that would shoot Apple right up the list.
Market share still isn't THAT important though. All the companies above Apple bar HP can only dream of the income that Apple is producing. It also shows that there is still an awful lot of room for growth.
Another favorite Apple quote of mine (not sure whom to attribute, and i paraphrase here):
"We may only be 10%... but quite clearly we're the top 10%."
Top 10 what? Arrogant? Egocentric? When a computer defines how good the user is... well... something is seriously wrong. It's only a computer.
Hmm, let's see. How about the top 10% with a sense of humor.
[hint: the winkie
isn't just for decoration... n00b.] "seriously"I have an Ipad and I wouldnt consider it a mobile PC. Its more a large PDA then a true PC.
Hmm, let's see. How about the top 10% with a sense of humor.
[hint: the winkie
If someone who joined MacRumors in January 2004 is a "n00b", what does that make you?
Someone who's been on the Intenet LONG before 2004...If someone who joined MacRumors in January 2004 is a "n00b", what does that make you?
... at much better sites than this i might add.
[for a "Demi-God" you ask *strange* questions.]
Someone who's been on the Intenet LONG before 2004...
... at much better sites than this i might add.
[for a "Demi-God" you ask stupid questions.]
What a privilege it must be for us to be graced with your presence. I'm surprised you've lowered your standards and left your "much better sites" to come here.
As someone who has been on the internet for so long, could you please tell me what's so special about "Demi Gods"?
So?
Mainframe is also a lot more powerfull then the average mobile PC, going to count those as wel with the PC market?
my point was that its not a pda but is a mobile pc so therefore should be counted. My original points still stand though.
No its not, your only point was that its more powerfull then certain PC's. Wel there are plenty of equipment more powerfull that arent counted in PC sales.
The ipad is fundamentally different then a regular PC, even apple considersit different. You just want to add it to inflate apple sales numbers.