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Apple's Split with Google Over iOS Maps Driven by Turn-by-Turn Navigation Dispute
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Did you not read the article? Google has been abducting puppies from iPhone owners, which it finds when the user used the Maps app to go to any pet-related store. It's like you're not even paying attention!
People are suffering? ... over two companies fighting over taking your money ... through a maps app .... on $300+ devices ... with $100+ monthy service contracts.
That's pathetic as hell then if you care THAT much. Brainwashing goes both ways.
OTK
That's right. Steve wasn't one to use words like "magical" unless there was real magic involved. I heard the devil wanted Steve's soul in return for inventing the iPhone, but Steve managed to negotiate him down to just a liver. True story.
Google was seeking more ways to turn iOS users into a product to be sold to the highest bidder.
iOS users want great products. They don't want to be products. Might work great for cattle, but people, not so much.
Yet your usage data, placement and what you do is what will make Apple Maps happen - IOS users should get out more...
You think you aren't a product with Apple? Good luck with that. And they weren't LOOKING for anything. Apple was looking for turn by turn functionality. And if they wanted it - they had to agree to Google's terms.
It's not evil. It's called business. Just like Apple negotiates with other parties when they want patents, etc.
You still didn't explain how Google was evil in this scenario. Unless you only deal in hyperbole.
Exactly.
Crappy unchecked map data = crappy maps
The data can be swapped out and fixed fairly quick. If they have the will to do so.
It totally amazes me that they used the unchecked geo-coded Yelp data. Somebody geo-coded that data to some really bad street center-line address files. Points are on the wrong side of the street which means street arc directions were not fixed. They probably used Tiger data... LOL
And it totally blows me away that Google and Apple hire slaves in India to do the map edit work, when we have a zillion gis mapping professionals out of work here. They HATE U.S. workers and are VERY happy with crappy data and a horrid product and a small bill. We did full QA checks at the digital map company I used to work at. This is what happens when you outsource the data to a company that outsources it's creation. You get crap! I can smell outsourced map data before I see it and this stuff smells of India.
It is easy to fix if you actually check it before dumping the layers in your map database. I just love Apples mañana attitude. We will have the users fix it with their corrections. WTF??? Not me. You guys got billions, you fix it. The good map data only cost a couple million. How cheap are you? And everyone will run back to Google Maps ASAP if you guys slack on the fixes. It only is lost map look-up ad revenue in the billions right? Nothing to cry about.
Steve Jobs is spinning right now, but he was also a cheap and greedy outsourcing clown.
The data can be swapped out and fixed fairly quick. If they have the will to do so.
It totally amazes me that they used the unchecked geo-coded Yelp data. Somebody geo-coded that data to some really bad street center-line address files. Points are on the wrong side of the street which means street arc directions were not fixed. They probably used Tiger data... LOL
And it totally blows me away that Google and Apple hire slaves in India to do the map edit work, when we have a zillion gis mapping professionals out of work here. They HATE U.S. workers and are VERY happy with crappy data and a horrid product and a small bill. We did full QA checks at the digital map company I used to work at. This is what happens when you outsource the data to a company that outsources it's creation. You get crap! I can smell outsourced map data before I see it and this stuff smells of India.
It is easy to fix if you actually check it before dumping the layers in your map database. I just love Apples mañana attitude. We will have the users fix it with their corrections. WTF??? Not me. You guys got billions, you fix it. The good map data only cost a couple million. How cheap are you? And everyone will run back to Google Maps ASAP if you guys slack on the fixes. It only is lost map look-up ad revenue in the billions right? Nothing to cry about.
Steve Jobs is spinning right now, but he was also a cheap and greedy outsourcing clown.
This is pretty much what I figured-- Apple got tired of Google dragging their feet and bumped them. Good for Apple. Now we'll suddenly get a Google Maps app with turn by turn, 3D imagery and all the other features we should have had at least a year ago.
Explain how Google was dragging its feet?
Did you read the article? Google offered the latest and greatest features but Apple was unwilling to accept their terms. How does that equate to Google dragging its feet?
Especially since they bought the company.
It really should be branded "Keyhole". Google did not create a thing. They would still be reading fold out maps if they did not buy them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole,_Inc
Apple doesn't like it when they can't call all the shots. They like to be the bully and not compromise. So now the loyalists are stuck with an inferior map app. But at least they can brag about Apple not caving to Google. And to many, that is what is most important.
And that makes me angrier that major markets in which people don't care for turn-by-turn directions (such as Japan) have lost the best mapping service out there and ended up with the sh*tiest maps ever because of a "feature" they don't need.
Indeed. How "insane" for Google not to bend over and just let Apple dictate all the terms in their favor. You know - in exchange for services THEY needed.
Map companies
Early stage?
They bought the three map companies years ago... C3, Poly9, and Placebase.
Early stage?
They bought the three map companies years ago... C3, Poly9, and Placebase.
If this is the case why -at least in some major markets- are iOS 6 users stuck with one the worse maps I've ever seen in the last 15 years?
If I paid $300+ dollars for a device that requires a $100+ monthly service fee (more like $80 for me), I sure as hell expect it to work as intended.
Oh please. Like they are the first company to make acquisitions and then build on top of them. What they bought and what they have now are leagues apart.
It's Apple problem, not the customers to suffer an substandard product
That's all nice scuttlebutt, but as a customer that pays top dollar for Apple's products, I don't give a rat's ass about their scobbling with business partners! I expect above standard solutions for the Apple prices I am paying.
That's all nice scuttlebutt, but as a customer that pays top dollar for Apple's products, I don't give a rat's ass about their scobbling with business partners! I expect above standard solutions for the Apple prices I am paying.
Yeesh, if Apple would make a search engine, these forums would be full to the brim of people claiming that they're 'so happy' to use Apple's new (and buggy and bad) search engine... and in only a few months it will be better than Google!
Reality check people.
Apple is good at many things, this just isn't one of them. Even though Google may or may not have held back on the turn-by-turn, Apple let the maps app linger, did not add features other than turn-by-turn, did not make better use of the data already provided.
It became stale and boring because of Apple.
Reality check people.
Apple is good at many things, this just isn't one of them. Even though Google may or may not have held back on the turn-by-turn, Apple let the maps app linger, did not add features other than turn-by-turn, did not make better use of the data already provided.
It became stale and boring because of Apple.