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Apps on iPhone 5s Reportedly Crashing Twice as Often as on iPhone 5c and iPhone 5

Razeus said:
...someone doens't understand Android updates via Play Store. So therefore, at least the native apps get updated frequently and doesn't have to wait for annual updates to get features.
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But APIs? Frameworks? Kernel? There is more to an update than just refreshes.

And don't bring up nexus devices, because even though nexus devices get the latest updates, devs normally don't bother with the new APIs until they're widespread, which takes around a year or even more.
 
Irony is the person who would mock Android or even joke about it in this thread.

iOS 7 clearly is having "growing pains." And while it might be the best iOS as per Apple - it seems far more polarizing than any other iteration. Of course - that's probably because the design elements are quite the departure from what people have been seeing since 2007.

I hope Apple can get things fixed - and quickly as to avoid "daily" articles that detract from the overall enjoyment most are having.
 
Ah, the media... to quote the great Professor O'Blivion:

"The television screen has become the retina of the mind's eye. Therefore, the television screen is part of the physical structure of the brain. Therefore, whatever appears on the television screen emerges as raw experience for those who watch it. Therefore, television is reality, and reality is less than television."

This applies to all iPhone / iOS haters out there. I have to deal with this sort of nonsense a lot at work. Keep watching the news... it's good for you.
 
musika said:
Yep, I've noticed this.

New processor = more optimization.

It'll get worked out, but it sucks right now.
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In a separate thread, i teased you about the BSOD, suggesting that you may actually have a windows phone. Reading the article posted earlier about this being real on the iPhone for some users, I would officially like to eat a little crow and apologize for my not believing you.

As I said their, I have not had a huge amount of crashing apps, but I have noticed it. As the apps get updated, hopefully this resolves itself. I guess I am lucky that I don't use a lot of the crashing apps.
 
Has anyone experienced freezing of apps? I have a few that freeze the entire phone for about 5 seconds when I launch them since ios 7 upgrade. After that they're fine but those 5 seconds of nothing at all working feel like 5 minutes.
 
Cuban Missles said:
In a separate thread, i teased you about the BSOD, suggesting that you may actually have a windows phone. Reading the article posted earlier about this being real on the iPhone for some users, I would officially like to eat a little crow and apologize for my not believing you.

As I said their, I have not had a huge amount of crashing apps, but I have noticed it. As the apps get updated, hopefully this resolves itself. I guess I am lucky that I don't use a lot of the crashing apps.
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Cool of you to apologize! :cool::eek:

Yeah, hopefully getting it swapped will fix it for me, and I'm sure that as the OS and apps become more properly optimized for the hardware, these issues will pass.

It's great that yours is working well!
 
I have had one of two apps crash on me since updating to iOS 7. I have not seen an iOS 7 update for those apps yet. I have not seen iOS 7 itself crash on me and cause a reboot.

I did have one thing happen with Siri this morning. Several times, I would get the "I am sorry I am having an issue" message, the microphone would continue to be displayed and I could not do anything other then close Siri as it would not allow me to input new voice commands by pressing on the microphone or pressing down on the home button. After about 30 seconds, after closing Siri, I would hear the ending Siri dong sound. Not sure if this is by design in iOS 7 or if it is a bug. I plan on reporting this to Apple feedback.

I am sure Apple is aware of the crashing issues and hopefully they will fix the issues soon in another point release.

EDIT: There is one annoying thing I see with e-mail in iOS 7. The e-mail app will indicate that I have 1 unread e-mail. However, there is no blue dot shown next to the e-mail that is unread. I have seen this twice now. This is happening with my Yahoo e-mail account. Marking all as unread followed by marking all as unread does not fix this.
 
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wigby said:
Has anyone experienced freezing of apps? I have a few that freeze the entire phone for about 5 seconds when I launch them since ios 7 upgrade. After that they're fine but those 5 seconds of nothing at all working feel like 5 minutes.
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I get this now too with iOS 7 (iP5). When waking up the phone, returning to a previously opened app -- the phone is rendered useless for about 3-5 seconds. It's similar to when unlocking the phone and all the homepage icons fly in and wont respond until they're all settled onto the screen. Needless to say, it's annoying...
 
Cyloncat said:
Yeah, 64 bit some developers, all right.

I could go off on a rant about Objective-C and iOS memory management practices in apps and libraries, but the basic problem is that it allows programmers access to pointers and, if you work with C structures, even allows you to allocate based on size. These are the things that kill apps in transition from one memory model to another. Modern languages like C# and Java isolate the programmer from these things, and you can develop code that runs equally well on any architecture, with the libraries and runtime handling any interaction with non-managed components.

Programs should never make any assumptions about the size of addresses, values, structures, or objects.
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It is not programming language problem, it is programming habit problem.
 
iOS 7 is the culprit here. **** is android laggy. Not Apple smooth at all.
 
Apple, will you never learn...

Why bother trying to drag unambitious developers into the 21st century. You did this when you switched to 64bit on your OS.

Just let app developers continue developing their 32, 16 and 8-bit pet projects. It will work out better for everyone in the end. Then we will all be happy again.
 
Apple

Nothing super special in pipeline came out after Steve Jobs died RIP his soul,If you dont have vissionary skills dont matter if you have best people around you.Tim Cook ,Ivy etc .. just running around the room how to do something new.The didnt did anything at all.just revamped the old stuff.
 
How funny... mine just crashed as I was reading this. I get the Apple logo for a few seconds but it doesn't seem like a full reboot.
 
thought I would mention it in case it might help some users. I got a brand new 5s to replace my 4 two weeks ago. The first thing I did after restoring my backup was Reduce Motion in accessibility settings, turn off auto updates, turn off blue tooth, turn off background app refresh. Not only have I experienced no crashes, but my battery life has been outstanding. I left home at 7am, watched a little video on the train, sent a few texts, checked a few apps, and my battery is at 88% at 2pm.
 
codefuns said:
It is not programming language problem, it is programming habit problem.
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Good programming languages promote good programming habits. Better programming languages make whole classes of errors impossible.

For instance, if you want to use a pointer in C#, you have to set the "unsafe" option on the compiler, and enclose your pointer use in an "unsafe" block. Even then, you can only use it for external references to unmanaged code. In more than 8 years in C#, I've never had to do that. Not once. In normal use, the compiler knows that you're using a reference, and generates the right code. As a result, C# compiles to "any CPU" and adapts to 32- or 64-bit as needed, with no code changes.

Relying on "programming habits" is unsafe.
 
Twice?

Twice the amount of crash still is 3x times less than regular plain old Android.

I'm the joyous owner of a iPhone 5 and an Nexus 7 and god the Nexus is awful by any standard. The iphone barely ever crash (don't remember the last time) so my guess is 0 x 2 = 0.1 ;)
 
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