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I mean, is it even legal to shoot someone unless your life or someone else's is being threatened?
 
it used to be in this great country of our that the good people did not have to worry about the socalled aftermath of haveing to deal with street trash because of the unspoken rules of the day was if you had a rap sheet that more than a page long then you where bought and paid for because of the crimes you have done in the eyes of the people where you lived at the time and the old school criminals knew that fact ..

Now days with every lawyer out there twisting and turning everything around there is no longer any more common sense when it comes to dealing with the street trash because now it allow to sue the person who had to defend themself againest the socalled street trash family who looking to make a quick buck off the person ..
 
henry2, those are some interesting points.

To be honest, I believe it will depend where I'm going. We can have different outlooks all that we want but the bottom line is that if you ride into an area that if full of drama or has the potential to have drama, there are a couple of choices:

1. One can take the stand and say "It's mine and I can go anywhere I please with it."

2. One can say "It's mine and I'll be discreet."

3. One can say "It's mine and I won't bring it."

All of which have a 2nd and 3rd order effect. Which are you willing to deal with?

Some may land some confrontation that may land you to defend your property and self.

Some may land some inconvience of not having your luxury item with you thus hindering the effeciency of if you had it with you.

And of course, nothing may come from it if Angry Birds is played with the volume on max.

It's all a gamble of what one is willing to deal with as a result of that product.
 
I would just like to say, henry2, for someone who claims to be proud of his country and its traditional culture, you are doing an amazing job of butchering its language to the point of unintelligibility. Perhaps you should review a copy of Strunk & White's Elements of Style regarding the normalized rules of English discourse in writing, particularly when it comes to punctuation usage, capitalization, sentence structure, and basic rhetoric. Also, I would humbly suggest you acquire a dictionary (there're free ones online), preferably one that also gives the standard declensions and conjugations of words in English; additionally, if it also provided correct usage of hyphens in words, that would be stupendous.

Taking steps in order to fully utilize the language of the country and culture that you hold in such high esteem would, I think, greatly improve your ability to communicate with others on a forum such as this. It might also reduce confusion over what you intend on saying, reducing the amount of needless disagreement.
 
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I do not have a poor outlook on life and i belive in treating others with kindness and respect to another human beening no matter what there religon or skin tone as they treat me with the same respect and kindness ..

I'm with you. People who can't behave nicely in society should be removed from society.
 
henry2, those are some interesting points.

To be honest, I believe it will depend where I'm going. We can have different outlooks all that we want but the bottom line is that if you ride into an area that if full of drama or has the potential to have drama, there are a couple of choices:

1. One can take the stand and say "It's mine and I can go anywhere I please with it."

2. One can say "It's mine and I'll be discreet."

3. One can say "It's mine and I won't bring it."

All of which have a 2nd and 3rd order effect. Which are you willing to deal with?

Some may land some confrontation that may land you to defend your property and self.

Some may land some inconvience of not having your luxury item with you thus hindering the effeciency of if you had it with you.

And of course, nothing may come from it if Angry Birds is played with the volume on max.

It's all a gamble of what one is willing to deal with as a result of that product.

Your right on 2nd and 3rd to a point but there is also the basic right of you to defend yourself againest the street trash because of there need to feel to take your stuff because they are not willing to go out and work like you did for it .

When i'm in some of the socalled bad areas of LA as i ride the train my focus on keeping a eye on the problem child rideing the train and most of the time the people who i see everyday keep on them also or they will say heads up we comeing into the station to get someone head out of the clouds when they are new to rideing the light rail system ..

Or when i'm in the car driveing around the town i tend to keep the sling bag in the car between my legs when i drive the car not out where someone can see it ..

Or when i'm out walking around on the streets in La the sling bag that holds the ipad is in front of me when i'm out on the street
 
I mean, is it even legal to shoot someone unless your life or someone else's is being threatened?

I don't think it's legal to shoot someone running away with your iPad. That would be called murder 3rd degree. Now if the person is threatening you with a deadly object, then by all means shoot. But by then, you'll probably be the one being shot since he has the deadly object :cool:

All your iPads are belong to us.
 
I would just like to say, henry2, for someone who claims to be proud of his country and its traditional culture, you are doing an amazing job of butchering its language to the point of unintelligibility. Perhaps you should review a copy of Strunk & White's Elements of Style regarding the normalized rules of English discourse in writing, particularly when it comes to punctuation usage, capitalization, sentence structure, and basic rhetoric. Also, I would humbly suggest you acquire a dictionary (there're free ones online), preferably one that also gives the standard declensions and conjugations of words in English; additionally, if it also provided correct usage of hyphens in words, that would be stupendous.

Taking steps in order to fully utilize the language of the country and culture that you hold in such high esteem would, I think, greatly improve your ability to communicate with others on a forum such as this. It might also reduce confusion over what you intend on saying, reducing the amount of needless disagreement.

I'm sorry that my writeing skills does not meet your high standards

I don't think it's legal to shoot someone running away with your iPad. That would be called murder 3rd degree. Now if the person is threatening you with a deadly object, then by all means shoot. But by then, you'll probably be the one being shot since he has the deadly object :cool:

All your iPads are belong to us.

Then do not move to my home state because they do not treat the socalled bad people very well and one of our sheriff makes you wear pink underwear and runs a chain gang and they do not treat the socalled bad guys very well in the state system ..
 
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Your right on 2nd and 3rd to a point but there is also the basic right of you to defend yourself againest the street trash because of there need to feel to take your stuff because they are not willing to go out and work like you did for it .

When i'm in some of the socalled bad areas of LA as i ride the train my focus on keeping a eye on the problem child rideing the train and most of the time the people who i see everyday keep on them also or they will say heads up we comeing into the station to get someone head out of the clouds when they are new to rideing the light rail system ..

Or when i'm in the car driveing around the town i tend to keep the sling bag in the car between my legs when i drive the car not out where someone can see it ..

Or when i'm out walking around on the streets in La the sling bag that holds the ipad is in front of me when i'm out on the street

You're absolutely right, as you do possess a basic right to defend yourself. I'm not saying, either, that you should hault your life and stop your everyday routine. I'm just saying that if you don't want to be in drama, avoid it. Life is hard enough and too short without all of the knuckle heads trying to gain advantages in life that they didn't earn.

I grew up in Maryland, 2 min away from SE DC, so I've seen my share of drama situations. I just won't place myself in those situations anymore; those of, "I wish mutha*(#ka would" type of scenarios. I can tell, from what you're writing, that you aren't the one starting or want to be involved in such crap.

One thing that I do, to avoid feeling like I need to go to such deep depths to protect my tangibles, is insure them. I use renters insurance that covers if it's dropped, stolen or whatever else. That costs me 45 bucks a year.
 
I'm sorry that my writeing skills does not meet your high standards

Case in point. "Writeing" is an improper declension of "writing", and "does" is an incorrect conjugation of "do", and you're lacking a period at the end of your sentence (though that's forgivable for a one-sentence answer online).

However, I am not convinced that "basic English" or "being able to be understood" are high standards. They are, in fact, the absolute lowest standards of communication in English.
 
Case in point. "Writeing" is an improper declension of "writing", and "does" is an incorrect conjugation of "do", and you're lacking a period at the end of your sentence (though that's forgivable for a one-sentence answer online).

However, I am not convinced that "basic English" or "being able to be understood" are high standards. They are, in fact, the absolute lowest standards of communication in English.

Carry that crap to the classroom. I thought this forum was to exchange thoughts, ideas and solving problems in an informal way. So what's with the talking-down approach?? Do you always play on someone's shortcoming?
 
Just asking.

It attracts a lot of attention and for some reason I am little uncomfortable using it on NYC subways.

I grew up in NYC, in the old days of high crime, and have been robbed many times, including the subway. I would just use an iPhone instead - also with mobile me you can track an iphone if stolen. An iPad is an easy grab and can make a criminal out of relatively honest people. Be discrete when and if you must use it

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Then do not move to my home state because they do not treat the socalled bad people very well and one of our sheriff makes you wear pink underwear and runs a chain gang and they do not treat the socalled bad guys very well in the state system ..

I'm curious, do you use "so-called" frequently in your everyday speech? The way you continue to use it is so distracting and often doesn't even make any sense.
 
I'm curious, do you use "so-called" frequently in your everyday speech? The way you continue to use it is so distracting and often doesn't even make any sense.

Socalled is not even a word. Wtf is socalled? I think people who use that imaginary word deserve to have their iPads stolen.
 
I felt the same way when I got my original iPad a few days after the launch. The first time I took it to class it was chaos. I posted a thread then about the same idea.
 
Just as an update I'm am a lot more comfortable using it these days on subways. It's really great for catching up on news or missed tv shows on the train.

Worst case someones gonna steal it. I would rather use it for what I bought it for. Well not the only reason but a big reason why I got it.
 
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Wow...I read the whole post and was very interesting to see how the discussion turned into a talk about guns but hey, I respect everyone's opinions...

Just my $.2

-I have learned in all my travels that like it or not, in some cities you do need to be discreet...or not. Comon sense. There are consecuences for both choices.
-I would not shoot someone else for an electronic device but agree that no one has the right to take your hard earned money ...or Ipad, Iphone etc..
-Saying that, wish it wouldn't had happened and know it's nothing to brag about but 3 years ago I shot a guy's arm when trying to steal my backpack with high value contents in it. The guy tried by pulling it from me while waving a Bowie Knife at my face. The rest is history.

It was considered legal self defense. It is my 2nd amendment right but never carry my gun outside my state and have a concealed weapon permit.

Well, I am from Texas...
 
Wow, Theres some scary opinions on this thread....being prepared to kill someone over posessions is something I can't relate to at all. I suppose I'd prefer to avoid a situation where it might come to that in the first place....I'd rather get through life without having the death of someone on my conscience, especially if it wasn't even in defence of my own or someone else's life.
 
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I dont think ATT blacklists cells based on IMEI. verizon does i think. ipads and itouches cant really be blacklisted unless cdma variety.

More companies practise IMEI blacklisting than you'd think, just not for the same reason. It usually only happens when the manager of a wireless store discovers that x-number of devices grew legs and walked out from the store-room. A simple switch of carrier (sim) is all that is needed to make a blacklisted device work. That being said, the MAC address is trackable too, as that information is required for any device to connect to a network (internet) of any kind.

There are technologies that help people change IMEI and MAC numbers, it's illegal in many places, but not always such an obvious crime
 
Carry that crap to the classroom. I thought this forum was to exchange thoughts, ideas and solving problems in an informal way. So what's with the talking-down approach?? Do you always play on someone's shortcoming?

If someone talks like a 10-year-old, I treat them like a 10-year-old.

But I digress. My point was that he was espousing a culture and more especially, its values. One of the values of that culture was clarity in expression and writing. However, by expressing himself with a muddled mess of misspelled words, he was undermining his entire point. I was merely pointing this out, and suggesting that if he wanted to actually make his point effectively and promote discussion, he should consult resources that were considered standards in the culture he is supposedly so proud of.
 
Using your iPad naked on the subway is equivalent to fanning yourself with 10 crisp $100 bills.

Very poetic. And no, I am not comfortable using my ipad 2 in NYC on a subway. It lives and stays next to my couch.
 
I'm very old fashion when it comes to people who steal or try to steal something from the working class people of this world and my views come a very old west style of looking at the world in right or wrong way of thinking that stealing is wrong in my personal view

I do not allow myself to put into those places where i'm forced to make a move toward defending myself or someone else because of bad judgement on my part or the person who is trying to steal from me and so far i have never been robbed had a few times where the guy was like going to but i was ready for him and looked at him like come lets get this over so i can go home and you are going to jail or the undertaker and they have moved on to a easyer target ..

When i'm on the street i'm in full ready to go mode with my wallet in a super slimline super small front pocket type wallet along with my keys in the front pocket and the wallet is in one pocket and keys in the other to keep me from haveing to dig around for them and my cell phone in my back pocket not hanging off my belt for someone to grab it and run along with it beening turned off when i'm on the street walking and the sling bag is carryed in front of me on the chest area or in the car when driveing it put in front of the car seat on the floorboard when driveing to keep it out of sight when i'm driveing so not to have a person smash a window and try to grab it ..

when i go into place like a coffee house i do not sit outside and use the ipad or phone inless i have my back to the wall and i can watch who comeing or going in the area ..most of the time when i do pull the ipad out of the bag it in a safe secured area where i can watch people comeing and going who in my area where i'm sitting in the coffee house or bookstore ..

I do not get up and leave i take it with me when i go to the bathroom or going up to the counter to get a refill ..but i did that with my laptop also ..

So i try to keep a eye on what is going on at all times when i'm out alone or with friends who do the same for me ..most of the time when i'm with friends sitting outside in some of the place's we go to we are all watching the people who are comeing and going in the area to watch for the socalled sneak thief or the person who sees a opening and takes it and they are off with your stuff in there hand and heading down the block at a steady clip ..

I also have this for use in a Urban area one is on the Sling bag somewhere and the other is on my work color photo id with it neck layard i wear around the area when i'm outside my vehicle ..Yes i do take them off the units when going through Airport checkpoints and put them in my checked luggage and reattch them to the places on the bag and neck id card hold for use as need..

The company is called Hideaway knife company and just google them to find them on the web
 

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