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Are you buying the new Apple TV (2015)?

  • Yes (it's perfect and has everything I ever wanted)

    Votes: 182 59.9%
  • Maybe (still waiting on international pricing, more details and reviews)

    Votes: 70 23.0%
  • No (it doesn't meet my needs, my roku is better)

    Votes: 3 1.0%
  • No (it doesn't meet my needs, my fire TV/stick is better)

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • No (it doesn't meet my needs, my nexus player is better)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No (I'm sticking with my older Apple TV 2 or 3)

    Votes: 23 7.6%
  • No (I just use my smart TV)

    Votes: 6 2.0%
  • No (I use my Xbox 360 or Xbox one)

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • No (I use my play station 3 or 4)

    Votes: 4 1.3%
  • No (I'm waiting for more apps and streaming services to be released)

    Votes: 9 3.0%

  • Total voters
    304
Yes and no...only if your connection is faster than that, which most people do not have.
Most people I know have local content. I have a Movie Library of 800 movies, 400TV shows and 1200 Albums. However, I was replying to the individual who was looking to move from Wireless to hard wired expecting a benefit.
 
Most people I know have local content. I have a Movie Library of 800 movies, 400TV shows and 1200 Albums. However, I was replying to the individual who was looking to move from Wireless to hard wired expecting a benefit.

It could though. Imagine your internet connection is 20 mbps and you are only get 10-15 over wifi. If he moves to hardwire, it should get the full 20. He would only benefit from going wireless if his speed was faster than the ethernet supported, otherwise, hardwire will always be better.
 
Good try at a poll but bad "yes" answer. 8 variations of "No" but only 1 "Yes" answer?

Nevertheless, yes, I'm getting 2 but not because "it's perfect" and not because it "has everything I ever wanted". I could offer a long list of features & benefits that don't appear to be in this one but, it is what it is, and it does come with some new benefits that can justify buying one (or two) anyway.

I'm still looking for "perfect" in ANY product... this included.
 
It could though. Imagine your internet connection is 20 mbps and you are only get 10-15 over wifi. If he moves to hardwire, it should get the full 20. He would only benefit from going wireless if his speed was faster than the ethernet supported, otherwise, hardwire will always be better.
Hardwired always better unless Apple stiffs you with a 10/100 port on a device released in 2015. It is similar to providing USB 2 instead of USB 3 on a 2015 computer. Any wireless at 802.11 AC is going to be Multiple times faster.

Here is an example of Iphone six running a speed test on 802.11 AC
 

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My aTV3 is mainly used as a Plex client (using PlexConnect and a custom icon in place of iMovie Theatre) and for listening to my iTunes music (which I could also do through Plex) with an occasional foray into one of the built-in Apps.

I'll be waiting to see what Plex can offer through the App store (Siri integration?) or whether PlexConnect is still viable before rushing out to buy one.

My FreeNAS (which contains all my media, Plex Media Server and PlexConnect jails) and aTV3 solution currently works really well, so unless the aTV4 can do more I'll stick with what currently works!
 
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Hardwired always better unless Apple stiffs you with a 10/100 port on a device released in 2015. It is similar to providing USB 2 instead of USB 3 on a 2015 computer. Any wireless at 802.11 AC is going to be Multiple times faster.

Here is an example of Iphone six running a speed test on 802.11 AC

I guess I cannot make it make sense to you. There is interference over wifi, and unless your speeds exceed the ethernet speeds, most would be better if they could accommodate hard wired.

Whether you stream movies, play games, or whatever hardwired is what ISP base their speeds on. I have ATT uverse and I 100% get a faster/more reliable connection being hardwired even using AC devices.
 
I'm waiting that someone is clarifying what 3rd Party Apps can and can't do. If they can tap into Universal Search (must-have) and even Siri (nice-to-have) i will buy one in an instant. If not...well than i'll have to continue my search for "the perfect" streaming box.
 
I'm waiting that someone is clarifying what 3rd Party Apps can and can't do. If they can tap into Universal Search (must-have) and even Siri (nice-to-have) i will buy one in an instant. If not...well than i'll have to continue my search for "the perfect" streaming box.

IIRC, they said it would work with HBO, netflix, iTunes, and maybe one more? I know HBO and netflix were mentioned.

edit: showtime I think was the other service.
 
IIRC, they said it would work with HBO, netflix, iTunes, and maybe one more? I know HBO and netflix were mentioned.

edit: showtime I think was the other service.
Yes and during the Keynote Eddie Cue said "we're adding more over time". But this could mean two things: 1. You have to be a "Friend of Apple" like Netflix, Hulu etc. for this to be added and only Apple controls it or 2. 3rd Party Apps (thinking of f.e. Plex or Amazon Instant Video) can somehow tap into these features.

If only Apple decides who shows up at this Page and is searchable via Siri then it's a pretty useless feature for me. I live in austria (in europe) and we don't have services like HBO, Showtime or Hulu. So it would only show iTunes and Netflix^^


But i have hope looking at iOS9 where Devs can pretty easy implement the indexes used for Universal Search.

Edit: Another example i can think of is music. I'm a happy Spotify Premium user and i don't think i will switch over to Apple Music. With the new Apple Tv will i be able to find music from Spotify or does this only work with Apple Music. It all depends on Apple whether they allow devs to use Universal Search for their apps or not.
 
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Hardwired always better unless Apple stiffs you with a 10/100 port on a device released in 2015. It is similar to providing USB 2 instead of USB 3 on a 2015 computer. Any wireless at 802.11 AC is going to be Multiple times faster.

Here is an example of Iphone six running a speed test on 802.11 AC

I think wired is still better for this, despite the lower speed. The reason is wired has less change of interference or something going wrong. 802.11AC is certainly fast, but just like all radio technology, it's affected by many factors out of your control. Microwaves, neighbors, etc. One of those things disrupt your connection, and the ATV would have to try to reconnect. Most likely when this happens, it happens so quick that you don't notice because the devices caches the stream ahead somewhat and there is no disturbance to your movie/show. I still don't like that it happens, especially when I have Ethernet wired to my TV already.

With wired, there are far fewer factors that might interfere with the connection.
 
Can't answer above because yes I will be buying it, but I think it's nowhere near perfect.

My gripe is the Ethernet... needs to be gigabit. I live in a huge house with thick walls, my time capsule is on the top floor, so wi-fi is not an option. Sometimes the current ATV struggles to stream 1080p over wired. Feels a bit cheap of Apple not to include this given the ATV4's pricing. Surely if the ATV ever becomes 4K capable then a gigabit Ethernet will be a must.
 
My gripe is the Ethernet... needs to be gigabit.
Why? The Apple TV cannot do anything that would require more than 100Mbps.
Surely if the ATV ever becomes 4K capable then a gigabit Ethernet will be a must.
It won't, because the HDMI transceiver is not HDMI 2.0-capable. But even if it did, Netflix's 4K streaming service runs at just 15.6 Mbps ...
 
The 10/100 decision does seem a little strange and really can't impact on cost by more than cents for the volumes they'll produce.
 
Not right away at least. I'll wait until there's more information about the Roku 4 and Fire TV 2 before making a decision. I bet one of those will support 4K and if that's the case, I'll go with one of those. I just don't see anything in the AppleTV 4 that makes me want to instantly go out and get one. I have a hard time buying a brand new device that already feels like it's a year old and ready for an upgrade.
 
The 10/100 decision does seem a little strange and really can't impact on cost by more than cents for the volumes they'll produce.
There is simply no reason to use Gigabit Ethernet. The main reason is probably not hardware cost, but the higher energy consumption. Remember that the NIC is always on in the Apple TV.
 
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There is simply no reason to use Gigabit Ethernet. The main reason is probably not hardware cost, but the higher energy consumption. Remember that the NIC is always on in the Apple TV.
In addition, I think (but could be wrong), most of us don't get gigabit Internet connections to our homes, or even 100base T connections. For me, I only get 60, so having 1000 wouldn't do me any good, except on the inside of my network, which is gigabit.
 
In addition, I think (but could be wrong), most of us don't get gigabit Internet connections to our homes, or even 100base T connections. For me, I only get 60, so having 1000 wouldn't do me any good, except on the inside of my network, which is gigabit.
Even if you have a GigE LAN at home and use the ATV for local streaming, I can't think of any use case that would require more than (or even anywhere near) 100 Mbps.
 
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Nope. It's pretty much useless. The current Apple TV does everything this does without Siri.

Where was the subscription service?
Why do I have to log in with my cable provider? I want to cut the cord.
Where's homekit? I thought there would have been more home automation features for alarms, thermostats, etc.

It's just Apple TV with a new coat of paint.
 
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Yes, I have been waiting for them to reintroduce a hard drive to the Apple TV.

I like the new UI and I can actually see myself using Siri on it. Just hope the apps are good quality for the device.
 
I think I'll keep using my ATV2 for another year and see what happens. The ATV2 does everything I need which is to watch Netflix and all my iTunes purchased TV shows and movies as well as non purchased movies.

I also have two smart TVs here so I can get by on just Netflix on the other TV or I can bring a MBP up to that TV and watch shows that way.
 
Yep. I love my ATV2, but it's at the point where it crashes constantly now. I have both a Amazon FireStick and Chromecast, but I still prefer the Apple TV so I can easily throw something on Airplay. I also like that I have have an ethernet directly connected (although I know that Chromecast now has something for this as well). I've been waiting for the new ATV so hopefully that will take care of the Netflix crashing issue and I'm existed for Plex support.
 
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