I'm very happy with the overall experience having switched from Windows. However, the battery life still gives me fits. I get around 7 hours or so with a few apps open (nothing too cpu intensive). I'm hoping a software update can fix it, but if not, I suppose 7 hours isn't terrible either.
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Are you happy with your late 2016 Macbook Pro?
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The keyboard is actually pretty soft if you don't smack the keys. It will take some getting used to and reminds me of the transition from a smart phone with actual keys to the iPhone with the onscreen keyboard.Or you could walk into an Apple Store and buy one like I did! I cancelled my preorder
[doublepost=1479480697][/doublepost]One more thing, I hope this keyboard shuts up after some consistent use. Cant imagine sitting in a meeting taking notes with this computer. Its worse than someone crunching on Fritos!
Small USB-C to USB A connectors. From Amazon there is 2 for ~$7.
Your experience mirrors my own pretty well. Not surprised, but glad to hear all the doom-sayers claiming the lack of 32 gb would be the end of their ability to work with VMs turns out not to be the case, even with only 8gb of RAM.
Interesting as I noticed my i7 13inch running hot last night. Will have to see if this persists off of a power cord. Would be interesting to see benchmarks of the i5 versus i7 to know if it is worth the extra heat.
Got mine last night, spent a while setting up and I love it! Touch bar is great, I love touch ID for fast user switching, and the screen is gorgeous.
Got the 13" 2.9, 512, 8gb. I saw some some stutter/frame drop while switching spaces and yellow memory pressure for a few seconds but that was installing lots, indexing, downloading a photo library... I'll get my usual Safari + slack + tweetbot + Xcode setup going and see how it is after a few days. Otherwise might look at returning and bumping to the 16gb model.
Got the 13" 2.9, 512, 8gb. I saw some some stutter/frame drop while switching spaces and yellow memory pressure for a few seconds but that was installing lots, indexing, downloading a photo library... I'll get my usual Safari + slack + tweetbot + Xcode setup going and see how it is after a few days. Otherwise might look at returning and bumping to the 16gb model.
yes same here. i am loving it so far. Using only 1 dongle (usb type a) . from now anything i buy will have usb type c anyway. i have 15 inc. 2 hours of usage battery on %70. Mostly install stuff and setting up , brightness is %55-60.
- Touchpad with 3 finger drag needs to be improved, speakers' drivers needs to be updated
- next version should have touch bar haptic feedback feature
- usb type c magsafe version should come back
using mostly for development purpose. beautiful, elegant and fast machine . touch bar, touch id, speakers, screen, touchpad are epic.
- Touchpad with 3 finger drag needs to be improved, speakers' drivers needs to be updated
- next version should have touch bar haptic feedback feature
- usb type c magsafe version should come back
using mostly for development purpose. beautiful, elegant and fast machine . touch bar, touch id, speakers, screen, touchpad are epic.
Can someone tell me if their touchbar is very bright or not ? Because it seems mine isn't enough.
keyboard, trackpad, screen, dimensions, design and weight are just awesome
personally I'm missing magsafe and usb-c periphery is virtually non-existent to the moment
[doublepost=1479862679][/doublepost]oh, and power adapter now comes with replaceable cable!
yearly "Apple-tax" of replacing power adapter will be much cheaper, now I will need just to get new cable instead of whole adapter thing
personally I'm missing magsafe and usb-c periphery is virtually non-existent to the moment
[doublepost=1479862679][/doublepost]oh, and power adapter now comes with replaceable cable!
yearly "Apple-tax" of replacing power adapter will be much cheaper, now I will need just to get new cable instead of whole adapter thing
Also facing cable issues. Two different dongles for hdmi and vga and today I find out neither on has lightening for my apple display. Dongle issues already. Luckily I figured it out before being embarrassed by it in a meeting. It would be cool if apple gave us the dongles necessary or a good roadmap when buying the machine but I didn't get either. I like the computer but apple did a poor job Of rolling it out. They are so busy being arrogant in their approach that they forget the need to thorough.
Guys does anyone having an emoji glitch?
Im trying to upload a screenshot but I keep getting the message "Security error occurred. Please refresh the page and try again".
Any suggestions how to sort it out? Thanks
[doublepost=1479910028][/doublepost]Guys does anyone else have this glitch with emojis?
Couldn't get it off my screen until I restarted my laptop.
Im trying to upload a screenshot but I keep getting the message "Security error occurred. Please refresh the page and try again".
Any suggestions how to sort it out? Thanks
[doublepost=1479910028][/doublepost]Guys does anyone else have this glitch with emojis?
Couldn't get it off my screen until I restarted my laptop.
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After having an 2016 13" i5, then i7 and back to i5 and running the same tests, I would say the i5 runs considerably cooler doing the same things. For example, the i7 when streaming a 1080p movie from wifi got uncomfortably hot over an hour. The i5 streaming the same movie was warm but far from hot.
I exchanged the i7 back for the i5 13".
Under high load it gets warm while the i7 was hot.
My non-scientific test on both laptops was having Photos launched while streaming a movie in Safari from Youtube.
Both i7 and i5 showed 8:20 when I unplugged power.
After 45 minutes the i7 showed 5 hours and change.
After 45 minutes the i5 shows 8:02 left.
The i7 discharge according to CoconutBattery stayed around 7.6 watts during this test. The i5 used 6.5 watts.
During the same test the i7 felt hot while the i5 was cool, I'd be hard pressed to even call it warm.
The strange thing is the OSX battery meter after 50 minutes says 94% capacity left while CoconutBattery says 89.4%.
Opinions on which one is more likely to be the correct one?
Between the huge difference in heat and assuming the battery indicator is accurate, battery life, the i5 seems to be the better deal, then add that in day-to-day tasks the i7 is unlikely to make any visible improvement in performance and costs several hundred $ more. Glad I went back to the i5.
*update*
USB 3.1 gen 2 cable arrived. Connected it to the Samsung T3 external drive. Copied a 1.4GB file in 3.5 seconds!!! Using a USB-C to A adapter my daily use USB memory stick took 63 seconds for the same file.
*update*
Been 3 hours since I unplugged, ran 45 minutes of streaming video tests, surfed the net, installed several applications, ran external SSD vs USB memory stick benchmarks.
- Battery at 75%
- Time on battery: 3:01
- Time remaining: 7:00
After 3 hours of fairly active usage it's looking like 10 hours with the i5!
2016, 13" 16gb, i7.
I love everything about, the keyboard, touchpad, touchbar and the speakers are amazing for their size, although I'm envious of the richer sound the 15" get.
The only gripes are it runs much hotter than the i5 I had to return due to a display issue and the battery life.
At 100% battery it said I had 8h 19m left. After 45 minutes of youtube video it said 5 hours. If the rate is consistent to the end I'd think 4 hours while playing streaming videos would be the max.
I exchanged the i7 back for the i5 13".
Under high load it gets warm while the i7 was hot.
My non-scientific test on both laptops was having Photos launched while streaming a movie in Safari from Youtube.
Both i7 and i5 showed 8:20 when I unplugged power.
After 45 minutes the i7 showed 5 hours and change.
After 45 minutes the i5 shows 8:02 left.
The i7 discharge according to CoconutBattery stayed around 7.6 watts during this test. The i5 used 6.5 watts.
During the same test the i7 felt hot while the i5 was cool, I'd be hard pressed to even call it warm.
The strange thing is the OSX battery meter after 50 minutes says 94% capacity left while CoconutBattery says 89.4%.
Opinions on which one is more likely to be the correct one?
Between the huge difference in heat and assuming the battery indicator is accurate, battery life, the i5 seems to be the better deal, then add that in day-to-day tasks the i7 is unlikely to make any visible improvement in performance and costs several hundred $ more. Glad I went back to the i5.
*update*
USB 3.1 gen 2 cable arrived. Connected it to the Samsung T3 external drive. Copied a 1.4GB file in 3.5 seconds!!! Using a USB-C to A adapter my daily use USB memory stick took 63 seconds for the same file.
*update*
Been 3 hours since I unplugged, ran 45 minutes of streaming video tests, surfed the net, installed several applications, ran external SSD vs USB memory stick benchmarks.
- Battery at 75%
- Time on battery: 3:01
- Time remaining: 7:00
After 3 hours of fairly active usage it's looking like 10 hours with the i5!
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It appears that Coconut is based on actual battery capacity, and the system is calculating off the "designed" battery capacity of 4315mah. Pretty much everyone gets a little more juice out of the factory, right?
Seen threads like this here repeated, but I don't mind talking about my tMBP 13 again. I could talk about this thing all day. It has surpassed my expectations in every way. Although I upgraded from an 09 MBP, I have had and used computers in between. This is another level of build quality and usability. My 09 is still one of my favorite computers ever, but it was clearly getting old and slow even after upgrading everything. This is faster, lighter, smaller, nicer looking, and just better in every way. All the details are pleasant surprises, the screen quality, keyboard (got used to it in one day and prefer it now), touchpad (the old physical ones take real effort to push now), touchbar, speakers, hinge, quietness, etc. There are some things that could be better, like the XPS style bezel and keeping just one usb A port, but I approve most other decisions. The attention to detail is what non-Apple users just don't understand.
I was already used to the idea of usb c since the MB 12 debuted and was mentally prepared for it. I have a single usb c plug to connect my entire desktop set up of a monitor, ethernet, usb peripherals, backup drive, headset, and I have a couple usb a to c adapters for on the go just in case. And I don't expect to use them much. I for one really like the flexibility and getting rid of wasted space of legacy ports. People are going to look back at the old specialized ports that serve one purpose yet are always taking up space on the computer as illogical and inefficient. It's funny looking at 5 year old PC's and how they have 3 different video ports, which probably have been used exactly twice. Sure, a few people always use a particular legacy port like SD reader, but even when I took most of my pics on dedicated digital cameras, I didn't come close to using it even "regularly". There are special cases and professions that need these things, but I don't want to carry around a port just to satisfy a small portion of the buyers who can just use a dongle. If you just think about this rationally, you will see this makes much more sense than keeping every conceivable port on the MBP. People just don't like change. My space gray MBP is getting darker just like the country, doesn't mean it's getting "worse". It's getting more colorful.
I wrote a fairly lengthy post on this in another thread.
I am really enjoying this machine. The keyboard is taking some getting used to but the more I use it, the more I like it. The same goes with the Touch Bar. It's not going to be some amazing or revolutionary change but I have a hard time seeing someone make a legitimate argument that the function keys it replaces were somehow better.
With that said, the battery life is definitely a step backwards. For typical use it looks like I'm in the 7 hour zone. This is enough for me but if you're thinking about getting a TB model to replace your Air, think again. You're better off with the cheaper if battery life is your primary concern.
The machine is also a bit quirky at. The touch bar has gone in and out a few times and there are some other bits I mentioned before. If it's anything like my past experiences with Apple products, they'll get ironed out soon enough.
I am really enjoying this machine. The keyboard is taking some getting used to but the more I use it, the more I like it. The same goes with the Touch Bar. It's not going to be some amazing or revolutionary change but I have a hard time seeing someone make a legitimate argument that the function keys it replaces were somehow better.
With that said, the battery life is definitely a step backwards. For typical use it looks like I'm in the 7 hour zone. This is enough for me but if you're thinking about getting a TB model to replace your Air, think again. You're better off with the cheaper if battery life is your primary concern.
The machine is also a bit quirky at. The touch bar has gone in and out a few times and there are some other bits I mentioned before. If it's anything like my past experiences with Apple products, they'll get ironed out soon enough.
The only reason I'm taking it back to Apple is the predictable reason. It's just a damn complicated mess trying to connect it to a Wacom tablet, DisplayPort monitor, keyboard, back up drives, and so on.
One thing that irked me is that th USB-C charging cable Apple supplied doesn't work at full speed with my Samsung T3. Instead of getting 450MB/s I get a pathetic 38MB/s. No typo. It appears the cable doesn't provide proper transfer capabilities.
One thing that irked me is that th USB-C charging cable Apple supplied doesn't work at full speed with my Samsung T3. Instead of getting 450MB/s I get a pathetic 38MB/s. No typo. It appears the cable doesn't provide proper transfer capabilities.
I would say I can consistently get 6 or 7 hours from my 13". What I'm seeing however is a much wider range of battery life. I get around 6 hours when using Amazon Video or FandangoNOW, but as much as ten at low brightness just doing Internet browsing.
Overall, I am pretty satisfied with the 2016 MBP, apart from the erratic battery life. Seems like there are also a few software bugs (eg. emojis appear along the top of the display after I used them on the Touch Bar in Messages, and then switched to another application. Has anyone else experienced this or something similar?).
Apple's spec's for the USB-C to USB cable says USB 3.1 gen 1.
"The USB-C to USB Adapter supports data transfer at up to 5 Gbps (USB 3.1 Gen 1)."
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204360
Did you plug into ports on the left or right side?
I read that on the 13" models which are dual core, only have enough bus paths to make the left side ports run at full speed.
Ordered a MBP 13" w/ touchbar but the delivery time was Dec 7th or later. So, I got a 13" non-touchbar MBP three weeks ago, when I was in the Apple store for something else. Loved it.
Then I was able to look at a 15" MBP w/ touchbar in the Apple store. Was surprised how light it was, so I got one of those to compare with the 13" over a week. I was certain the compact form of the 13" would win out but I was wrong. I found 15" didn't feel heavier in the backpack, nor did it seem to take up more desk space in the office. It is definitely bigger if you're carrying it around between meetings, but for me that's not a current need. If it was, I would go with the 13".
Bottom line, I returned the 13" yesterday (yes they took it back past the 14 day return period) and I'm happily typing this on the 15" MBP. I didn't think that having USB-C ports on both side would be that big a deal, but it's huge. I didn't realize how much it mattered (once it was available) to be able to plug in the power on either side. REALLY makes a difference with cable management. Again, if I hadn't experienced it I would have scoffed at the effect.
The screen is gorgeous!! The keyboard is louder than my prior 2015 12" Macbook, but typing is pretty much the same for me. The noise doesn't bother me but I'm sure it would annoy the crap out of others nearby.
So while I was typing this, it occurred to me that I hadn't yet tried to put my backpack in my motorcycle side bag (pannier) with the 15" MBP..... yikes!! Turns out that the back will not fit if placed squarely in the pannier. But, it does fit if the backpack is angled slightly. What this means is that if the backpack is really stuffed, it will not fit; I'm willing to live with that but others may not.
**update** forgot to mention that the 87W power adapter for the 15" is HUGE and heavy. But the extra 61W power adapter I got for the 13" MBP charges the 15" just fine, so that's the one I'm carrying in my backpack. I'm sure if the 15" MBP is under heavy load the smaller charger won't keep up, but I'm willing to live with that.
Then I was able to look at a 15" MBP w/ touchbar in the Apple store. Was surprised how light it was, so I got one of those to compare with the 13" over a week. I was certain the compact form of the 13" would win out but I was wrong. I found 15" didn't feel heavier in the backpack, nor did it seem to take up more desk space in the office. It is definitely bigger if you're carrying it around between meetings, but for me that's not a current need. If it was, I would go with the 13".
Bottom line, I returned the 13" yesterday (yes they took it back past the 14 day return period) and I'm happily typing this on the 15" MBP. I didn't think that having USB-C ports on both side would be that big a deal, but it's huge. I didn't realize how much it mattered (once it was available) to be able to plug in the power on either side. REALLY makes a difference with cable management. Again, if I hadn't experienced it I would have scoffed at the effect.
The screen is gorgeous!! The keyboard is louder than my prior 2015 12" Macbook, but typing is pretty much the same for me. The noise doesn't bother me but I'm sure it would annoy the crap out of others nearby.
So while I was typing this, it occurred to me that I hadn't yet tried to put my backpack in my motorcycle side bag (pannier) with the 15" MBP..... yikes!! Turns out that the back will not fit if placed squarely in the pannier.
But, it does fit if the backpack is angled slightly. What this means is that if the backpack is really stuffed, it will not fit; I'm willing to live with that but others may not.**update** forgot to mention that the 87W power adapter for the 15" is HUGE and heavy. But the extra 61W power adapter I got for the 13" MBP charges the 15" just fine, so that's the one I'm carrying in my backpack. I'm sure if the 15" MBP is under heavy load the smaller charger won't keep up, but I'm willing to live with that.
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The USB-C charging cable is just that. A charging cable only, it's not for data transfer. Kind of why it says "charging only". You need to buy a real USB-C data cable. I use one with 2 Samsung T3s and the transfer speed is fantastic.
I have to admit that I was not impressed by the machine at the time of order and have been voicing my doubts . I've finallly received a 2.7 512 460. From a quick one hour session, it's a great build, the KB is a lot better than my 12", the touch bar was a cool gimmick at first though have doubts . So from an hour with it, it's cool, but have not used it for anything meaningful . Will test it against a max 2012 and max 2015 units this weekend .
Almost exact same situation. Its been a week now. I've decided to stick with the 13", but am returning for a 16GB model.
How is your battery life ? Would like to know if there's any impact on battery life going from 8GB to 16GB.
That's a poor excuse and blatantly ignores the USB 3.1 Type C spec that was standardised. Have some respect for members. Some of us are actually tech literate in case you didn't realise.
What do you mean by respect? Apple's charging cable does not blatantly ignore anything. The fact you can't read doesn't make this Apple's fault, they clearly state the cable is for charging, not data transfer. It has been this way since they introduced that cable for the 12" MacBook. As for tech literate, I have an engineering degree, do you?
They should have included a fully compliant cable, that's the point. Especially on such an expensive machine.
Just stop. I know being an internet argueboy comes easy but self control is a great thing. Read the specs for the standard and stop looking silly in front of us.
[doublepost=1480019620][/doublepost]The LG Ultrafine 4K has the same ridiculous issue. The three USB-C ports on it can't do more than 40MB/s data transfer when connected to the new MBP. This is disastrously stupid design. These bottlenecks have nothing to do with the USB 3.1 spec.