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AT&T site went live at about 1:54am CT last night... I had my 6 Plus ordered and got confirmation email at 1:55am CT... they are telling me the estimated ship date is 10/2-10/13.

Either the date is just made up, or they basically have little to no stock of the Plus.

I ordered a minute after you (12:55MDT) both me and my wife an iPhone 6 and all my confirmation emails say ships 16th/17th with arrival on the 19th.

EDIT: I just ordered the 4.7" iPhones, not the Plus.. maybe that was the issue. Disregard my post :)
 
Time to Pay Up in Fees!

I was on the phone with ATT and here's the rub. Right now I get a $25 a month "Discount" on each line in my family under the current plan. As soon as I upgrade to any new phone, that "discount" will go away.

While both my kids want new iPhones what I've told them is that a two year contract will cost me $600 per phone. Simply put there is no free lunch. In fact this is a rip off. I'll wait to see what contract free iPhones will run on ATT and decide then what to do. If I get contract free I can keep the $25 "discount" that might be the better deal.

So while everyone is going ga-ga over upgrading, what this is really all about is giving tons of extra money to carriers. No wonder they are in love with the new iPhone.
 
So what happened to looking like an idiot when making calls on a 5.5" phone?

Just LOL.

Well, if you're Verne Troyer (Mini-Me) it you would look pretty ridiculous with a 5.5" phone plastered to your face. If you're a big guy like Shaq, you might have to settle for the with the Sony Z Ultra Google Play edition.:eek:

Think 5.5" is big? Try again the Z Ultra sports a 6.4" screen. You would look absolutely idiotic talking on that thing unless you're an NBA or NFL player.:rolleyes:

Being an average American sized guy (as tall as but a bit thicker than the average European guy:p) the 4.7" screen size would be ideal.
 
Question for those ordering one of the new phones: if the 4.7" phone had the same screen resolution and camera tech as the 5.5" model which one would you order? Would it come down to battery life?

It would for me. While the 5.5 is bigger, I'm not sporting the skinny jeans any more (too old), so that isn't a real issue for me.
 
Apple needs to hire some amazon web folks. They seem to know how to do high volume online ordering.

I sat from 2am cst to 3 refreshing and trying to make the store app work on 3 different I devices and 2 laptops. Never worked so I went to bed. Their tech expertise sucks.

Apple won't get my money for 2 128 gb plus phones until I can get it done easily without standing in line.

I have preordered or stood in line for every phone, but I am getting too old for this ****. And the **** itself is getting stale.

Get it together.

I have to agree. Its an embarrassment.
 
So what happened to looking like an idiot when making calls on a 5.5" phone?

Just LOL.

Of all the things I do with iPhone everyday, making a phone call is almost never one of them.

Beyond that, I don't make calls in public places unless it is an emergency.
 
Most of the people I see with the ginormous Galaxy Note phones are moms who already carry around those giant purses. I don't want to have to schlep a backpack or laptop bag with me everywhere I go, just because I have a bigarsed phone that won't fit in my pocket.

The 6+ would be great for web surfing, etc. but I already have an iPad for that.

I guess if a guy really needed to combine a tablet and a phone together, and only wore cargo pants, then the 6+ might work.

So what happened to looking like an idiot when making calls on a 5.5" phone?

Oh, they'll still look like idiots. No different, really, than the people who take pictures with their iPads/tablets.

Or they could rock a Bluetooth headset, which looks equally dorky, and people always assume they are a crazy person talking to themselves.

They were wrong about that, and -- if the existence of the 6+ somehow isn't proof enough -- those leaked documents from one of the Apple/Samsung trials make quite clear that they have known for some time that they were wrong. So if you want to keep beating them up over a point they've clearly conceded, have at it, I guess.

First Apple had to make changes to iOS to make it less resolution dependent, and that happens with iOS8. Otherwise apps would look like the original iPhone apps running on an iPad. Or most apps on Android tablets. Apple obviously wasn't first to market with bigger screen phones but at least they're doing it right.
 
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I'm not mad. I'm laughing. It's funny how people complain that the Android phones are no good because of the size then Apple does the same and all of a sudden this size of product is cool.

Apple so is a cult and people feel they need the latest Apple iDevice to be a part of it. Even if they really don't like said type of device they'll buy it cause of the  on the back.

I think maybe he meant that you seem mad because people that aren't bitter don't get off from laughing at other people & generally can feel happy without making ridiculous general sweeping statements about others steeped in opinion, yet presented as fact, and don't need to stand on a pretentious "moral superiority" pedestal, talking smack like a grumpy old man, shaking his fist at the sky.
At least that's what I took from what he said.
 
This happens EVERY new iPhone launch (not S series) and NO ONE, ATT, VZ or Apple has solved their technological issues to handle the demand.

Im an iPhone fanboy too but STOP defending them. So pathetic.

Maybe there is no solution except to build massive infrastructure that sits around completely unused except during this six hour window once per year. These sites get hit hard. Probably already, 12 hours after pre-order, the orders are a trickle compared to what they were. I bet every site is fully operational as well. In your plan they would be mothballing the extra data center for another year now because they had no more need for it.
 
I think maybe he meant that you seem mad because people that aren't bitter don't get off from laughing at other people & generally can feel happy without making ridiculous general sweeping statements about others steeped in opinion, yet presented as fact, and don't need to stand on a pretentious "moral superiority" pedestal, talking smack like a grumpy old man, shaking his fist at the sky.
At least that's what I took from what he said.

Sounds about right. There's a lot of upset Samsung users here. It's amusing.

It's just a phone, guys. No need for emotional attachments.
 
So what happened to looking like an idiot when making calls on a 5.5" phone?

Just LOL.

Well ... that's where the iWatch comes into play, no need to take out the big phone (still might look like an idiot talking to your wrist, but people will get used to it - people on cell phones looked like idiots in early days, like crazy people talking to themselves )
 
A pocketable mini iPad mini that also has full iPhone phone functionality when one needs to take or make a call IS the concept… a very, very appealing concept for some (like me). Now, instead of having a "too small"-screened iPhone AND a bigger-screened iPad, one device can cover both needs… and fit in a pocket.

Is it for everyone? No. But for those that have long wanted an even smaller iPad and those who have always wanted an even bigger-screened iPhone, these new options are very desirable.

And I get this sentiment...



…but the question is will you buy an iPhone 6 anyway? If you do, then Apple still gets the money it wanted to make from you, so the decision from a business standpoint works. Only if many refuse to adopt the 6 and/or switch to competitor (Android) phones at <= 4" does Apple get some sense of making a "mistake" and thus get some buyer pressure to correct that "mistake".

To whine/gripe but then buy anyway is no different than us bigger-screen people whining/griping about 4" screens in past years, buying iPhones anyway and just dealing with it. This is the "just deal with it" concept working the other way. As it was then, it is now: all the whining/griping in the world isn't going to yield a 4" iPhone 6. All that resurrects the 4" screen iPhone is enough people not buying the 6 that Apple feels the pain in the sales volume. If they do, they'll adjust.

Yeah, I wouldn't call it whine or griping. I get the reasoning but I will miss the smaller sizes. I guess in a perfect world we could pick the size and shape we want and still be able to get the newest features. I guess for those of us who appreciate the smaller sizes we now get to feel the pain those of you have been longing for a larger size have been going through. I will learn to live with the compromise of 4.7 inches.
 
$79 Charge from AT&T???

So I ordered the + last night from AT&T's site, and switched to the Next plan. At the end of the checkout, the total due was $0. Perfect.

This morning I check my email and see that there is a pending charge of $76.00 from AT&T EStore. WTF is this for? This is not the same CC as my service billing, and I have no email, invoice, or other document showing what this $76 charge is for.

Since it is still pending, not much I can do other than wait and see if it goes away. Otherwise - dying to know what AT&T is actually charging me for.

Anyone else see this or know what the charge is?
 
Pre-orders with Apple were fine here. But in the UK, the carriers are being a right bloody pain. None of them want to reveal their pricing - so it's several hours after launch, and we still don't know the pricing from the main carriers.

This will be my first SIM free iPhone, so glad not to have to deal with those POS companies. And that POS does not = point of sale.
 
I'll wait to see what contract free iPhones will run on ATT and decide then what to do.

I ran a Verizon iPhone 5S for a year on the AT&T network, GSM-unlocked out of the box. Also supports all of the T-Mobile bands, etc. in the US. Then if you are running full-priced, off-contract phones you should have a cheaper rate (no subsidy) and no more two-year contracts to be trapped in.
 
Headphones exist for a reason.

Headphones exist to keep people with 5.5" phones from looking silly???
Huh; I actually did not know that. All these decades I've been using them wrong- I use them to enjoy high fidelity music! =P

Note: I realize you meant, Bluetooth headsets.... just couldn't resist being snarky, lol. ;0)
 
How long before I can make calls on a 13-inch iPad? I want to look even more of a d1ck.

I'm pretty sure you got that d1ck thing down already. (Sorry I couldn't resist. I have to swing when I am teed up.)

But I ordered a 6+ and I thought about how big a douche I would be talking on it. But a) I rarely use my phone for phone calls and 2) with more people having the big old slab up to their face making calls, I will just become one of the masses.
 
Errrr No.

Tastes can't change if there was no choice! lol

You can't say that people last year or the year before did not want a larger iPhone 5 or 5s or even 4 or 4s as they just had to be the only thing that was made.

That's like me only selling Apple pie and saying well people are buying my apple pie, so they obviously don't want any other flavor :D

Nor is it possible for people to show a preference for smaller phones unless Apple offers a smaller size with the same updated internals.

Personally I love the size and look of my iP4 (CDMA only), but it will soon become very limited as Verizon moves away from CDMA completely in the next two years, so their $200 trade-in makes an upgrade appealing for me. The 4.7" iP6 does not seem too wide for my hand (it is about the same width as my iP4 with a Griffin Survivor case) but is a little too tall for my taste. I really wanted a 1080p screen but the iP5 is just ridiculously large (yes, I actually use my phone as a phone). I am waiting to see these in person before making a decision--waiting a month for delivery is better than buying the wrong phone and living with regret.
 
But I thought people don't want larger screens. Right Apple?

I would like a smaller device, the 5s I have is already too big. I'm hoping in a couple years Apple learns from their work on iWatch and can bring all the necessary functionality to a phone smaller screen than the original iPhone.
 
Weird

I was able to get into the AT&T site about 5 minutes after the 3:00 start (EST) and it originally showed 7-14 days which was the launch window period for the 6+ 128GB Gold. Now it's showing I will receive it mid to late October...what the heck? Definitely think the 6+ is going to be extremely limited until say November. Total bummer.
 
Apple needs to hire some amazon web folks. They seem to know how to do high volume online ordering.

I sat from 2am cst to 3 refreshing and trying to make the store app work on 3 different I devices and 2 laptops. Never worked so I went to bed. Their tech expertise sucks.

Apple won't get my money for 2 128 gb plus phones until I can get it done easily without standing in line.

I have preordered or stood in line for every phone, but I am getting too old for this ****. And the **** itself is getting stale.

Get it together.

Amazon's orders are spread out during various time zones (E to P). Not all bunched together like Apple does.

Apple could instead stagger their pre-order reservation by the last digit of the primary account holders SSN or something to prevent the deluge. But I guess the uncertainty is large part of why people line up/ lose sleep to pre-order. If everything went well, it wont be as much fun!
 
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