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AT&T Files Complaint Against Verizon Over 3G Coverage Map Commercials

Xenu007 said:
If you want dropped calls and lousy performance on your iPhone, then AT&T is the carrier for you. If and when Verizon carries the iPhone, I will switch back instantly and I don't care what penalty I have to pay.
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Yup...I am a 5 year veteran Verizon person who switched 2 months ago to ATT (had ATT back in 90's and were horrible in New England for cell PHONE service)...I still live in NE and the ATT coverage is STILL HORRENDOUS JUST FOR PHONE CALLS.

The day Verizon picks up the iPhone, I will likely pay the fee and switch back. Luckily, for now, I'm a person who rarely uses their cell...so the iPhone is all the non-phone stuff for me (since I also work at home). But darn it when I want to drive 30 miles somewhere and I have 0 or 1 bars, it's pathetic. Late 2009 and I feel like I'm living in 1993 for cell coverage.

-Eric
 
ericinboston said:
Yup...I am a 5 year veteran Verizon person who switched 2 months ago to ATT (had ATT back in 90's and were horrible in New England for cell PHONE service)...I still live in NE and the ATT coverage is STILL HORRENDOUS JUST FOR PHONE CALLS.

The day Verizon picks up the iPhone, I will likely pay the fee and switch back. Luckily, for now, I'm a person who rarely uses their cell...so the iPhone is all the non-phone stuff for me (since I also work at home). But darn it when I want to drive 30 miles somewhere and I have 0 or 1 bars, it's pathetic. Late 2009 and I feel like I'm living in 1993 for cell coverage.

-Eric
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Wouldn't an iPod touch almost have made more sense for you then? I mean...iPod touch plus the Verizon personal WiFi device
 
NoExpectations said:
First, by not grabbing the iPhone when they had the chance. Second, by pissing off Jobs with the latest round of ads.
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Apple's owners should be ****ing livid if the idea that upsetting the Lord God Jobs has anything to do with anything.


Papajohn56 said:
Wouldn't an iPod touch almost have made more sense for you then? I mean...iPod touch plus the Verizon personal WiFi device
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Are you saying that ATT's cell service sucks, but you should buy an Iphone anyway to run it on WiFi? Or buy an Ipod Touch on WiFi.

It sounds like you're admitting that Verizon has a better deal...
 
VenusianSky said:
Who is the real cry baby? Both

Verizon is just mad because they lost, and are still losing customers to AT&T because of the iPhone. They knew what they were doing in these ads. Their response was to use some creative, but misleading advertising. Regardless, and unfortunately for Verizon, many people still pick a phone before they pick a service.
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Wha?!?! Can you back that up, 'cause I'm thinking you're mislead here.
 
asphyxiafeeling said:
I love it when huge international corporations act like whiny brats! fun to watch :D
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At least Microsoft had the dignity to ignore the half-truths and lies in the "Mac vs. PC" ad series.

Responding to unsupportable claims can give them an undeserved validity. (See the "when did you stop beating your wife" conundrum...)
 
I think I'm the only one who doesn't have a problem with AT&T. I always have full signal, and always have 3G. I've had Edge a few times, but nothing to complain about. Maybe it's because it was just a breath of fresh air after I had Sprint...and Verizon had terrible customer service, so I went with Cingular.

Guess I am lucky with it? Sad that a lot of people can't get good use from their iPhones.

Oh, and I do agree that the commercial is misleading. While the coverage thing may be true, that doesn't mean people completely get what 3G coverage means.
 
AT&T's 3G coverage sucks ass, and that's coming form a 13-year AT&T subscriber. They need to get on the ***** ball and start increasing their 3G coverage.

If Verizon could carry the iPhone tomorrow, I'd switch in a heartbeat...

Bryan
 
RiverFox said:
Wha?!?! Can you back that up, 'cause I'm thinking you're mislead here.
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Uhm...yes,,,,it's called RECORD SALES....this current quarter is already lining up to exceed last quarter.

I think we have a few Verizon Fanboys (read employees) who have to bash AT&T all the time.

If what they claim is true, AT&T would be experiencing record return rates.....and they are not.

Here in Chicago, I have 4-5 bars inside my home.
 
Ooohhhh please! AT&T needs to give it a serious rest. They should be glad they still have so many iphone customers after all the garbage they put them through.
 
TMar said:
I don't blame them the map they show is inaccurate to begin with.
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Lol, yeah your right . . it probably shows a couple areas that AT&T does not cover. Let me call verizon and let them know to trim even more of those blue spots down. :rolleyes:
 
NoExpectations said:
Uhm...yes,,,,it's called RECORD SALES....this current quarter is already lining up to exceed last quarter.

I think we have a few Verizon Fanboys (read employees) who have to bash AT&T all the time.

If what they claim is true, AT&T would be experiencing record return rates.....and they are not.

Here in Chicago, I have 4-5 bars inside my home.
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Ahh the typical argument of "if you are against my favorite company, you are getting paid by the rival company."

Honestly dude, just look around, a lot of people is unhappy with AT&T, a lot of people would switch if the iPhone went to Verizon.
 
Ungrateful users :)

You do know that EDGE was deployed mainly by and for NSA/CIA/DoD for domestic low bandwidth remote data transmission? AT&T got in bed with DoD early and deep and Apple comes along, spurned by Verizon, and goes to AT&T as a second choice. Being a corporate shill they say hell-yea and take massive new non-DoD subscribers, who happen to be data hogs, and to a lazy degree deploy new bandwidth to cell-sites.

Having a contract with Apple plan on forward leaning LTE which AT&T is actually good at. Forward leaning wide access bandwidth.

You can go anywhere with EDGE (except AZ) and get basic service for mission critical communication. In nearly all large cities you can get some bandwidth.

Steve did the right thing. Verizon sucks 5 ways from Sunday and we all know it. We wish AT&T was better, and when LTE is deployed in a year, it will be. Even *I* will stop whining then.

Maybe. :D

Rocketman
 
I'm not a fan of ATT in the slightest. My iPhone drops calls left and right. ATT's network sucks. That being said the ad is misleading. The issue with comparing 3G networks is the definition of 3G is crap.

Verizon can claim their CDMA 2000 1x RTT as true 3G as it technically is and that's their entire network. 1x has a max speed of 144 kbit/s, at which speed you'd be hard pressed to watch videos anywhere like this ad claims. The majority of Verizon's map is showing 1X RTT coverage which is basically EDGE since EDGE is 236kbit - 473kbit. Also EDGE is technically a 3G technology according to the ITU. ATT is well aware of this. Verizon wants you to think of nice fast modern 3G networks when they show you that huge red map of the US, but that's not their network. Their true 3G network looks pretty equal to that of ATT (except for the dropped calls) The ad is showing a tiny true 3G network against a overinflated BS 3G network and I'd consider that deceptive.
 
charlituna said:
i believe the issue that ATT is pushing is that Verizon padded their numbers and aren't actually comparing the same services.
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ATT isn't debating the 3G definitions or depictions.

ATT isn't complaining about the 3G charts, they're complaining that the charts don't also show voice and 2G areas.

They claim that some people might look at the charts and think ATT has no coverage of any kind outside their 3G area.

there has also been some talk that Verizon photoshopped the other carriers maps so things look worse than they are.
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Verizon obviously photoshopped out the EDGE areas to make it clearer, just as they cleaned out their own 1XRTT areas. But ...

The blue 3G area is STRAIGHT FROM ATT ITSELF.

If it's incorrect, they only have themselves to blame. But again, that's not their complaint.
 
AppleMojo said:
Forcing financial institutions to provide mortgages to those who shouldn't have had them in an attempt to regulate equality is the root cause. No bank in their right mind would give these people (population of people, don't race bait) loans because they were simply high risk / bad loads. Mommy-government stepped in, forced them to provide these loans and woolah, welcome in the train wreck.
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Umm, you do know that the definition of "subprime" is a mortgage that the government agencies do not provide a guarantee? Banks went in there on their on own accord, just like people taking out these mortgages, thinking that house prices would keep going up for a while longer and they could get out of the market before it crashed. JP Morgan noticed it and got out. It seems that so did Wells Fargo and Goldman Sachs, but the others were too late. Free market does fail from time to time, and this does lead to recessions from time to time. This is part of the process, so stop blaming the government for everything. Of course if you are high level manager in a bank that gets a big bonus whether your bank does well or goes bankrupt, then, sure go ahead.
 
I wonder if I can sue AT$T for breach of contract? When I started with them I had 3 bars of service in my home, my place of business. Now, a year and a half later, I'm at 1/0 bars. Whatcha think? :eek:
 
You see that area of white on the AT&T map between Oklahoma City and Dallas? Yeah, that one is for real. I drive that route twice weekly, and I've learned that it is futile to attempt an iPhone call in that area.

Even in city areas with great coverage, 20% of my calls are dropped. That worked out quite well when I was doing phone interviews for jobs a couple of months back. One of the interviewers actually called back and said, "let me guess, you have AT&T."
 
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