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AT&T: iPhone 6S/6S Plus Pre-Order Thread!

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ryanmcv said:
jjallison1, is that you?? Please stop spreading the same misinformation. I don't know where you saw this "article," but the excerpt that you quoted is simply jjallison1 trolling, claiming that his wife works for Apple and he has some super-secret inside knowledge. There is absolutely NO evidence to support his claim, but he expects us to take it as gospel.
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Oh - I'm just as suspect of jjallison's predictions as you are.. But there are few things 'he/she' is not wrong about. I'm sorry .. You're right - I DID quote jjalison's excerpt and not something more official.. Here's the excerpt that's authoritative on the different models.. I've attached excerpt AND link. And there's no disputing the supply change back light issue with the larger screens. But all else by jj - and by me - for that matter is speculation. BUT - things are NOT like they were last year. That non-nonsensical statement has to stop being said. There are MANY more factors that could hold back 6SPlus shipping this year compared to the 6+ last here.

Pertinent OFFICIALLY-sourced excerpt. Link to article underneath:

If you're buying an iPhone 6s or 6s Plus and want to have the option of changing carriers to AT&T, you need to keep an eye on the model number. Apple is selling two different 6s models here in the U.S., one of which supports AT&T's new, faster Band 30 LTE network.

The AT&T model, which will also be sold by Boost, Cricket, U.S. Cellular, and Tracfone brands such as Net10 and Straight Talk, is A1633/1634. It supports all the major U.S. carriers including Verizon (and, in fact, all global carriers) except for one major catch: you may not be able to get it unlocked. None of the larger U.S. carriers listed as carrying the A1633 model will unlock the phone on purchase. AT&T, for instance, requires an account to be active for 60 days before the phone can be unlocked.

Everyone else is getting model A1687/88. (I've confirmed this with the three other carriers.) This is identical to A1633/34 except for Band 30 (which I've confirmed with Apple.) Both models work ideally on Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless. Model A1687/88 will work fine on AT&T—it'll get LTE and everything—but as time passes and Band 30 is more heavily built out, it will show somewhat slower LTE speeds than the A1633/34 model.

Apple didn't comment on why there are two models, as apparently, it could have sold A1633/34 to everyone and had them be perfectly happy.

For the record, Verizon phones are unlocked if purchased at full price. T-Mobile iPhones are unlocked if purchased at full price directly from Apple (as opposed to from T-Mobile.) AT&T and Sprint phones are not unlocked by default. All the carriers will unlock your phone once you've signed up for service and used it for a certain amount of time, which varies by carrier and plan, but you do have to sign up for service. You can't get an iPhone without service from Apple right now.

There are two more sets of models that may be in play. Model A1699/1700 will only be sold in China. It appears to be identical to A1687/88. FCC documents also show that there is an A1690/91 model, which Apple has not yet discussed.

Band 30, also known as WCS or 2300MHz, accelerates LTE performance in some urban areas. According to Fierce Wireless, AT&T has already launched it in "a handful of markets" and plans to deploy more later this year.

If you want to pre-order an iPhone 6s, you have to choose a carrier unit. Choose the one for the carrier you intend to start with. If you switch to AT&T with the A1687/88 down the road, it'll still work.

If you really want the freedom to switch between carriers, wait a few weeks for the formally unlocked phones to appear. Right now, Apple tells me it is not selling formally unlocked iPhones by pre-order. "Apple may add it, but as of right now it is not available," a retail rep said.
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Link here:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2491013,00.asp
 
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marchrose2011 said:
This may seem like a dumb question, but why does AT&T have a special model phone with the LTE 30 antenna? Do none of the other providers (Verizon, T-Mobile, etc.) offer the signal or whatever it is?
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That is AT&Ts WCS Band, another LTE Carrier for AT&T.
I don't know if they will launch it in most markets before the iPhone 7 but not many phones support Band 30 currently.
In South FL, that would make 5 LTE Carriers. 700 (B17), 850 (B5), AWS (B4), 1900 (B2), and WCS (B30)
 
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And for those who were wanting further corroboration - I just checked my credit card - and just like other 6S pre-order people are reporting today, my charge has LEFT the pending portion of my credit card account as of this morning. So we're all in a similar boat. On this one item - this is also what happened last year- charge disappeared until 2 days before ship. Card charged - tracking number in email.. all came Thursday am. Wed for some - if memory serves.
 
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People getting hung up on whether or not you have a pending charge on your credit card: just know that this has nothing to do with AT&T. AT&T placed a pre-authorization on your credit card when you placed your order, but it is up to your bank/card issue to determine how long that pre-authorization remains in place until AT&T decides to actually charge your account. Most banks will remove the authorization after 3-5 business days, but it might take longer.
 
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gopre said:
Will the real jjallison please stand up....put one of those fingers on each hand....

I'm pretty sure we are dealing with the same person here......Must be nice to have so much time that you can watch 2 forums and post misleading and incorrect information.
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Actually not. If you look back NewdestinyX and jjallison1 started off by disagreeing. It's just that jjalison's story matches all the facts we know.
 
gopre said:
Oh, I missed that. Sorry.
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And if you look at our dates joined I've been here longer than JJAllison as well. Usually a troll account that someone creates is very near to the date the disagreements are going on. So that would be a date within the last couple of weeks that you'd see as their join date. I've watched many trolls on forums like this and I know their antics. I sometimes get ahead of myself and pass along information a little too soon before it's fully corroborated… But I'm not a troll. And it's really only this time of year that I come to the MacRumors forums for the preorder frenzie. I'm over at ModMyi most of the time.
 
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dave420 said:
Actually not. If you look back NewdestinyX and jjallison1 started off by disagreeing. It's just that jjalison's story matches all the facts we know.
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What "facts" do "we know"? Does anyone posting here really know anything about AT&T inventory and shipping activity?

I have read all the posts from the last two days and all I see is speculation. So please, can anyone claiming "facts" please post links to the authoritative source, either Apple or AT&T.
 
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What "facts" do "we know"? Does anyone posting here really know anything about AT&T inventory and shipping activity?

I have read all the posts from the last two days and all I see is speculation. So please, can anyone claiming "facts" please post links to the authoritative source, either Apple or AT&T.
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The facts are what I said. There is a unique model for AT&T which I have provided several links for. According to AT&T's web site the ship dates for 6s+ were initially set for October 16th, and there haven't been any or many confirmations of earlier dates. That sounds to me like stock is limited. Apple had some for delivery 9/25, so they appear to have had stock. I'm not making any far off conclusions here. All these people expecting earlier dates than promised are the ones speculating.
 
dave420 said:
That sounds to me like stock is limited. Apple had some for delivery 9/25, so they appear to have had stock. I'm not making any far off conclusions here. All these people expecting earlier dates than promised are the ones speculating.
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Bottom line, you do not "know" that "stock is limited." Apple "appear to have had stock."

These are just speculation. It just "sounds to me" like these things may be true, but in fact, have no substantive proof.
 
Do orders from AT&T typically come on launch/first day?

So if my order ships on 9/24, I would get it on 9/25?
 
RUQRU said:
Bottom line, you do not "know" that "stock is limited." Apple "appear to have had stock."

These are just speculation. It just "sounds to me" like these things may be true, but in fact, have no substantive proof.
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Apple orders: scheduled for delivery 9/25 and people have tracking numbers

AT&T orders: people given October 16-23 ship date

I think the conclusion is obvious about where the stock is. Believe what you want I am not even worried about it as I got the regular 6s that will be here Friday. I am just putting the details together.
 
Is there a way to look up the expected delivery date? I know there was one sent on the confirmation email, but I was curious if there was a way to see if that had changed. All I see when checking the order status is the estimated shipping dates.
 
dave420 said:
Apple orders: scheduled for delivery 9/25 and people have tracking numbers

AT&T orders: people given October 16-23 ship date

I think the conclusion is obvious about where the stock is. Believe what you want I am not even worried about it as I got the regular 6s that will be here Friday. I am just putting the details together.
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Exactly, Dave. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together. The data we have right now from reputable sources about different model phones for AT&T and back lit screen on the 1634 being on short supply - is irrefutable. Can we make the SPECULATION of lack of sufficient supply with AT&T on the A1634 model? Oh yeah.. Can we know for 100% sure that MOST 6S+ people WON'T GET their phones on launch day? NO!! Absolutely NOT!
 
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NewdestinyX said:
Exactly, Dave. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together. The data we have right now from reputable sources about different model phones for AT&T and back lit screen on the 1634 being on short supply - is irrefutable. Can we make the SPECULATION of lack of sufficient supply with AT&T on the A1634 model? Oh yeah.. Can we know for 100% sure that MOST 6S+ people WON'T GET their phones on launch day? NO!! Absolutely NOT!
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I'm struggling to see how the shortage of backlight modules is affecting ONLY the AT&T model (1634). There is absolutely NO definitive proof of that. Both 6s Plus models use the same backlight module. Therefore, any shortage would affect both of them.
 
NewdestinyX said:
Exactly, Dave. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together. The data we have right now from reputable sources about different model phones for AT&T and back lit screen on the 1634 being on short supply - is irrefutable. Can we make the SPECULATION of lack of sufficient supply with AT&T on the A1634 model? Oh yeah.. Can we know for 100% sure that MOST 6S+ people WON'T GET their phones on launch day? NO!! Absolutely NOT!
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ryanmcv said:
I'm struggling to see how the shortage of backlight modules is affecting ONLY the AT&T model (1634). There is absolutely NO definitive proof of that. Both 6s Plus models use the same backlight module. Therefore, any shortage would affect both of them.
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We could speculate that Apple focused on the model used by all the other major carriers. No way to know for sure. Apple probably made more for whichever carriers promised to buy the most.
 
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ryanmcv said:
I'm struggling to see how the shortage of backlight modules is affecting ONLY the AT&T model (1634). There is absolutely NO definitive proof of that. Both 6s Plus models use the same backlight module. Therefore, any shortage would affect both of them.
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The backlight module being the same for any model is beside the point. The modules AVAILABLE were allocated to the model MOST LIKELY TO SELL MORE first.. Like last year - Apple again made the STUPID conclusion that the smaller one would be more popular. They're IDIOTS to think that - but they have Harvard and Yale graduates working for them to figure this stuff out and they must have made that conclusion.

So your premise is: that OF THE working supply of backlit modules - Apple would allocate them to BOTH SIZE phones EQUALLY. They evidently did NOT. Your premise is wrong.

Still speculation. Sure. But speculation not in a vacuum. Speculation that fits what we're seeing.
 
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We could speculate that Apple focused on the model used by all the other major carriers. No way to know for sure. Apple probably made more for whichever carriers promised to buy the most.
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LOL.. It' like we're answering everything in double... LOL.. But yes.. I agree.
 
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My iPhone 6S plus pre order says "preparing to ship" but still has the October 16-23 ship date? What does this mean?
 
Something weird that happened when I tried to order:

Went to Apple.com, tried to order, "not eligible for upgrade pricing until Sept 21st" (only NEXT, which I didn't want).

Went to ATT.com, immediately said "eligible for upgrade pricing...64GB for $299". ???

If AT&T makes you eligible early, Apple should have that info too.

Strange. Got my order in though, so whatever.
 
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