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AT&T Prepares for Loss of iPhone Exclusivity as Subscriber Base Approaches Verizon's

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My cancellation fee money has been on the side line for that day since day one!!!!!!
 
I love my 3GS but will go with whoever is less money for the same services. Reception for ATT and VZ are both great here.
 
MarximusMG said:
Nope. This time there are significant reasons to believe these predictions. It's going to happen, and soon.
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Thats the same song I've again. This time we are certain, no the next time yes. Never ending cycle.

Sticman said:
No one is forcing you to read these Verizon-related posts. Anytime there's a new one you voluntarily jump in and pound your chest "There's not going to be a Verizon iphone". You don't seem to like these threads, so why don't you just ignore them.
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No one forces you to read my comments.

macsrcool1234 said:
+ 1. Jav feels the need to give his two cents in every single post on the subject. I wonder when he will understand that nobody actually cares.
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See above. I could also care less about you, newbie.
 
jazz1 said:
So instead of fixing their crappy network and ignoring the Golden Goose iPhone they are just going with a shotgun approach with a bunch of phones hoping we won't notice? On the other hand I don't really think VZ is going to do much better. I guess the marketplace will decide.
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Depends on where you are but at the same time AT&T knows their are a lot of people out their that do not want the iPhone and they are starting to loss people to the other carriers for Android phones and then you got people who want Windows Phone 7.
I am one of those people who do not want an iPhone and have no interested in getting one but I am happy with AT&T and was getting pissed by them not getting any of the other great smart phones out there.

jav6454 said:
Thats the same song I've again. This time we are certain, no the next time yes. Never ending cycle.

No one forces you to read my comments.

See above. I could also care less about you, newbie.
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It is a know fact that you jav hate verizon.
 
at least for the first year the price of the Iphone, and the price of the plan will be exactly the same on both carriers. They both know they can charge a premium for the Iphone, and people will pay it.
 
Verizon has some issues

kirk26 said:
Doesn't matter to me. I love AT&T. I've never had an issue with the network or service. I would never go back to a CDMA phone ever.
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3Q Results

ATT added 2.6 million new customers.
Ver added 1 million new customers.

Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.

There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
 
NoExpectations said:
3Q Results

ATT added 2.6 million new customers.
Ver added 1 million new customers.

Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.

There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
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Well here is my problem. I was a VZ customer (Blackberry), and jumped to AT&T to get the 3G, then the 3GS, and now the iPhone 4. I've never had so many dropped calls in my life in the same geographical location with the iPhone4. My friend has gone through 3 iPhone 4's as free replacements due to poor coverage (dropped calls and no coverage in his house). So maybe it is the iPhone 4's design. I love the iPhone4, and won't abandon it. However, my dropped calls are the worst I've ever had with any cell phone on any service provider.
 
microcolt said:
Once the exclusivity runs out I would really love to see which provider is the best for the iPhone and how they compare in certain situations.
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There will never be a way to compare. Verizon is CDMA and AT&T is GSM, two completely different cell systems. Not only that, the iPhone for AT&T was never optimized, but rather was equipped with a semi incompatible chip. Therefore the iPhone dropped calls and generally never operated very well as a phone.

I carried both an iPhone (every model from day one) and a BlackBerry (for work) every day since the iPhones were introduced. The BlackBerry _always_ performed very well on AT&T as a phone. Clear, great voice quality, and volume, never a problem. And I'm _NOT_ bashing the iPhone. It's simply a fact. The reason so many iPhone users bash AT&T is they simply don't know any better. Then combine that with the victim culture of Apple where pointing fingers is widely accepted as a way to place blame on anyone but Apple and you have what you have. AT&T hating masses.

Apple is not about to make the same mistake again, they will build a better phone for Verizon.

Oh... and by the way I'm a customer of both AT&T and Verizon, so I'm not sticking up for AT&T. They are both good networks, I'm a huge smartphone enthusiast, and having Verizon allows me to enjoy the Droid X and other phones they've offered over the decade I've been with these two companies.

Finally, I really like my iPhone...and I don't care if it's not a good phone, because everything else it does... it does very well. At the end of the day my iPhone, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro and other Apple gear are all terrific.... :)
 
wirelessmacuser said:
There will never be a way to compare. Verizon is CDMA and AT&T is GSM, two completely different cell systems. Not only that, the iPhone for AT&T was never optimized, but rather was equipped with a semi incompatible chip. Therefore the iPhone dropped calls and generally never operated very well as a phone.

I carried both an iPhone (every model from day one) and a BlackBerry (for work) every day since the iPhones were introduced. The BlackBerry _always_ performed very well on AT&T as a phone. Clear, great voice quality, and volume, never a problem. And I'm _NOT_ bashing the iPhone. It's simply a fact. The reason so many iPhone users bash AT&T is they simply don't know any better. Then combine that with the victim culture of Apple where pointing fingers is widely accepted as a way to place blame on anyone but Apple and you have what you have. AT&T hating masses.

Apple is not about to make the same mistake again, they will build a better phone for Verizon.

Oh... and by the way I'm a customer of both AT&T and Verizon, so I'm not sticking up for AT&T. They are both good networks, I'm a huge smartphone enthusiast, and having Verizon allows me to enjoy the Droid X and other phones they've offered over the decade I've been with these two companies. But this in no way lessens the bad coverage in Des Moines, IA where I live. I never had these problems before I went to "smart phones" Hell, my Motorola MTAC worked better than my 3G, 3Gs, iPhone 4 regarding dropped calls. My old Nokia's, and ancient OKI worked better than any iPhone regarding dropped calls. I have no idea why. Of course they didn't do data. But I have to ask myself why my old cell phones dropped calls with less frequency than my various AT&T iPhones?

Finally, I really like my iPhone...and I don't care if it's not a good phone, because everything else it does... it does very well. At the end of the day my iPhone, MacBook Pro, Mac Pro and other Apple gear are all terrific.... :)
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There will never be a way to compare? I suppose I could should I have both the AT&T iPhone and a VZ iPhone driving through the "valley of death" as I drive from work to home (same spots where I drop calls every day). Or if I had both phones in my hands where the AT&T iPhone drops calls all the time in my home. Granted will I ever have both phones and two different providers in my hand at the same time. Probably not as I can't take the contractual hit as an experiment.
 
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+1

Yes, the prices need to drop!
 
blackpond said:
Cingular sold out too soon...
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dude seriously..... the current ATT is Cingular.......Cingular bought att and changed their name to from cingular to att along with their owner SBC global who is the current ATT wireline.
 
correction

att isn't retraining anyone. same **** different day. wall street and bloomberg are talking out their butts. ill believe it when I see it
 
rain413 said:
dude seriously..... the current ATT is Cingular.......Cingular bought att and changed their name to from cingular to att along with their owner SBC global who is the current ATT wireline.
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From what I understand, Cingular bought out some division of AT&T but then some other division of AT&T bought out Cingular (something along those lines, but AT&T is a huge corporation with seperate businesses kinda like Verizon landline isn't the same as Verizon wireless). When they changed their name is when some division of AT&T bought them out (before that AT&T wireless was bought out by them and changed to Cingular. I remember cause all of AT&T's customers that got switched to Cingular all bitched and moaned about how much they hated Cingular. Where as it seemed the Cingular cusotmers had no issues and I got the impression Cingular wasn't so good at transferring the new customers over).
 
kdarling said:
Anybody know how many were because of eReader devices?
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I believe that would be irrelevant seeing as how Sprint deals with Amazon.... so, the bulk of the eReaders goes with them.


tigress666 said:
From what I understand, Cingular bought out some division of AT&T but then some other division of AT&T bought out Cingular (something along those lines, but AT&T is a huge corporation with seperate businesses kinda like Verizon landline isn't the same as Verizon wireless). When they changed their name is when some division of AT&T bought them out (before that AT&T wireless was bought out by them and changed to Cingular. I remember cause all of AT&T's customers that got switched to Cingular all bitched and moaned about how much they hated Cingular. Where as it seemed the Cingular cusotmers had no issues and I got the impression Cingular wasn't so good at transferring the new customers over).
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Here, watch this... explains it in *very* simple terms Click Me
 
for those who don't live in the USA

I think this would be good news as it might stop Apple disabling features globally only because the network provider in America can't handle it.

Maybe then I will be able to tether my iPad to my iPhone because my Australian provider can handle the data... :eek:
 
Glenn.955 said:
I think this would be good news as it might stop Apple disabling features globally only because the network provider in America can't handle it.

Maybe then I will be able to tether my iPad to my iPhone because my Australian provider can handle the data... :eek:
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Lol, you got it all backwards son.


tigress666 said:
Ah, that is both funny and informative. Thanks.
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His trolliness, The Colbert, knows how to explain stuff plain and simple. After all, he wields the Tro-rce.
 
pika2000 said:
All I want is for Apple to sell iPhones unlocked. They are doing it already in Canada and Mexico. It's extremely pathetic and sad that Apple, an American company, have their product gimped in their own country.
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Apple does sell unlocked iPhone in the United States.

Don't know where you've been.

The problem is there is only one network that supports the iPhone fully in the United States and that's AT&T.
 
tigress666 said:
From what I understand, Cingular bought out some division of AT&T but then some other division of AT&T bought out Cingular (something along those lines, but AT&T is a huge corporation with seperate businesses kinda like Verizon landline isn't the same as Verizon wireless). When they changed their name is when some division of AT&T bought them out (before that AT&T wireless was bought out by them and changed to Cingular. I remember cause all of AT&T's customers that got switched to Cingular all bitched and moaned about how much they hated Cingular. Where as it seemed the Cingular cusotmers had no issues and I got the impression Cingular wasn't so good at transferring the new customers over).
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You are not correct.

Cingular bought AT&T Wireless and then changed their name to AT&T, which is has better brand recognition. The iPhone was released when this was happening, which is why the original iPhone was launched on the Cingular network, which later became "The New AT&T".
 
Hope Verizon does get it and lighten the load on ATT maybe my service wont be so slow and then my brother can finally get the iPhone he wants in Chicago since he says ATT service is unusable in a lot of places he goes but Verizon is working perfect. Now if Apple's next iPhone released has the CDMA and GSM chip in one life will be great could go to any network :)
 
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