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He was probably referring to T-Mobile's awesome roaming policies. If you travel to remote areas of the US, yes, perhaps AT&T is better. If you travel internationally, T-Mobile is vastly superior (unlimited roaming data/texting, $0.20/min for calling, Canada and Mexico are free for all data/texting/calling): http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/roaming.html#

I travel internationally quite a bit and always opt for a local SIM card. Although it's not a bad feature at all, 2G data roaming, unlimited or not, is useless to me. T-Mobile should really concentrate on improving their US network instead, if they really want to compete.
 
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Sure hope this is only affecting iPhone Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan users. The iPad GF Data plan was a different beast, and the month to month signup said $30, not $35. It never said, "and we can change the terms of this offer so you pay more for Unlimited." After all, unlike the iPhone GF DP - data throttling NEVER applied to us.
 
Uh hum... tell me exactly how you ABUSE unlimited data? You have an option for unlimited data and that fits your lifestyle so you choice it as your plan yet using it abuses it? SMH

there have been stories (some here on MR) of people using 20-30gb of data a month.

do people really need to do that? no. but they're probably using their internet for their house, putting up a hotspot so anyone can connect, etc.

i can barely hit 5gb and i'm a HEAVY user. i'm always on my phone.
 
I'm still wondering how people use that much data. Streaming movies all day?

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YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, any number of APPs and APP Downloads/updates, streaming from AppleMusic/Pandora/Spotify, etc.?

Plus Jailbreaking or finding ways to forcibly illegally against ToS and their contract Tether multiple devices and/or hotspotting multiple devices


Most prevalent in cases where Sprint Verizon and T-Mobile have gone on public record labeling and out such "Abusers" that see Monthy usages in realms of 500GB 600GB 1TB 2TB 3TB etc. treating illegal tethering or HotSpotting practices as their own neighborhood FREE For all hotspot/cyber cafe


The good news here is I didn't know they raised the throttling cap to 22GB... I have been careful lately to stay under 5GB. I guess that is worth $5.

It's way worth it if people look at what limited uses pay/get heck I was getting 15GB ( before ANY Promo ) then 30GB now 60GB ( both after Promos ) but paying 3 to 7 times the new $35 being imposed here


Even looking at newer customers in the last 1-14 months they're getting less than great deals even with Promos and have much more to worry about usage wise


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Agreed on all counts. I love the T-Mobile/John Legere fluffers who have had a bit too much magenta Kool-Aid. They all seem to think that T-Mobile is some benevolent entity that exists solely for the benefit of their customers. The only reason why T-Mobile offers all the gimmicks is because their leadership is well aware that they can't compete on coverage.
I agree with you and I think that T-mo is even worse. At least Att shows its face, but T-mo covers it by the mask that they care on us. T-mo increased UDP price without a word during last presentation, not even some short explanations. I like once J.L. was asked on Telescope about Chicago coverage with LTE12, JL started to read the message had nothing to answer(no license there), dropped the question and switched to another one right away.

I almost 100 percent sure if I send a billing dispute to Att my case will be resolved and I get what I want. With T-mo they overcharged me, I still don't have my money back. Right now CS wait time is 19-21 minutes there.

Lol agreed with you both! Great minds think alike!

You 2 most definitely are of good mindset
Have a great day you 2 and keep being awesome

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Horrible - so glad I'm on the 'double your data' promo. I saved $60/mo from my family unlimited plan, I can tether, and don't have to deal with price hikes or throttling.

Without a doubt these "Double your data" promos are some of the best conceived in ages and a bit more resistant to price hiking thankfully!

The no throttle ever is nice granted paying for that non throttle if exceeding your data allowance is a pain. Alas in the long run all plans and pricing have pros and cons
 
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So in your world using the unlimited data = "abuse" really?
I agree with Four oF NINE using what you pay for is not abusing anything. AT&T over extended themselves in the beginning. Instead of ramping up they decided to take their buckets of cash to the bank. We as customer have loyally stayed some begrudgingly thru some crappy service. Now that things are easing up and the service is starting to be way way better everyone forgets about the struggle we went thru. I for one had crappy service in the beginning. still to this day I refuse to call ATT about issue for fear of them screwing up my account.
 
If your in a contract they can't raise it, at least thats what I was told last night and called back to verify , as far as data used, for me 7 to 9 GB per month

They can and they've done it before. Back in the days of individual message pricing, AT&T changed the price of MMS messages. Anyone with a contract was subject to the new price but since AT&T is essentially breaking their side of the agreement, you're allowed to leave without the ETF.

That's the same thing here. They can't change the terms of your agreement and then penalize you for leaving. By staying, you are accepting the new/modified terms of the contract. If you reject the new terms, they are required to let you leave without a penalty (rather than allowing you to keep the old pricing).
 
there have been stories (some here on MR) of people using 20-30gb of data a month.

do people really need to do that? no. but they're probably using their internet for their house, putting up a hotspot so anyone can connect, etc.

i can barely hit 5gb and i'm a HEAVY user. i'm always on my phone.
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there have been stories (some here on MR) of people using 20-30gb of data a month.

do people really need to do that? no. but they're probably using their internet for their house, putting up a hotspot so anyone can connect, etc.

i can barely hit 5gb and i'm a HEAVY user. i'm always on my phone.

I can use 5GB or more in a day. And during the Summer, my usage ranged from 57-204GB. I steamed a lot of videos instead of just doing music on Pandora and iHeart Radio that month. Plus my kids watched movies while on a road trip. That was the only time that my usage was that high.

I pay $81.73 for this with taxes and my discount.

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ATT has strong coverage, good voice quality, the absolute WORST cust service, and awful pricing.

They have stronger coverage, but very far from excellent. In the last year, dropped calls have been becoming much more frequent. AT&T first cell service was horrible, but they got an infusion when they bought Cingular's superior service, unfortunately they are slowly running in it into the ground. Customer service used to be very good, but it's been steadily getting worse. It's not like its cheap either, voice call pricing for grandfathered plans are outrageous, so it's not like they aren't making a killing on even those 'naughty' high bandwidth consumers.

Randall Stephenson should step aside as CEO, because his only action is to publicly bitch about his own customers then squeeze them harder. The 'network abuser' controversy was such obvious scapegoating to cover their asses on horrible technical mismanagement. Their overall network thru-put in any given region is ridiculous, as close to unlimited as possible, but when they screw up cell tower allocations and make poor infrastructure purchases/decisions, it's not a customer problem, it's a management problem, as in it's Randy's fault. AT&T would be better served in the 21st century with more technically savvy leadership. Let's also not forget the crapfest called Uverse, another Stephenson achievement in the race to the bottom.

Further, it's in completely terrible taste to alter customers' contracts mid stream. If he wants to raise rates, he should honor the spirit of his company's commitments, then raise on future renewals / new plans. As some claim here, if that a $5/month increase isn't that much for customers, then it shouldn't be that significant for AT&T to bother pushing it on existing contracts. If this 'trivial' increase is that significant for the hassle, then AT&T is running a real turd show with their overall business. There are only two possible reasons: desperation or petty greed. F 'em all with a rusty shovel and their disingenuous sycophants too.
 
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Price goes up $5 for the first time since iPhone 3G... And people are gonna complain. America is great.

This is nowhere near the levels of evil that is Verizon.

If anyone feels like they have always paid too much it will happen.
 
If this was the only thing they did your post would have some merit. AT&T has raised rates on every plan, trying to get people to join family plans that are more expensive, charging more for data, not honoring their contracts etc. But yeah, go head and complain about Murica because you think telecom monopolies are awesome. Meanwhile cool aid drinkers like yourself who bend over and take whatever they give you are the real problem.


Funny, because when my family of four switched to one of the shared plans (I used to have unlimited), we started saving about $100 a month over the old costs. Still have 25GB a month + rollover data shared, which is more than the unlimited cap anyways.
 
Funny, because when my family of four switched to one of the shared plans (I used to have unlimited), we started saving about $100 a month over the old costs. Still have 25GB a month + rollover data shared, which is more than the unlimited cap anyways.

-Old GF UDP taxes and FAN discount 700 min family plan: 60+9.99+9.99+9.99+20(unlimited sms)+30+30+30+30 = 229.97
- 25 GB share plan ls 175 dollars + 60 access fee for 4 linens = 235 dollars per month

Same price +- a cup of coffee(if you can call it coffee:) ) at S-B.

I don't see any savings here. Also unlimited data cap is 22 gb per line with UDP= 88 for 4 lines. I was throttled only one time for 5-7 minutes for the last 6 month. UDP plan has a great value, that's why people sell it 650 and up now on eBay.
Sorry, but I don't understand your logic.
 
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I agree with Four oF NINE using what you pay for is not abusing anything. AT&T over extended themselves in the beginning. Instead of ramping up they decided to take their buckets of cash to the bank. We as customer have loyally stayed some begrudgingly thru some crappy service. Now that things are easing up and the service is starting to be way way better everyone forgets about the struggle we went thru. I for one had crappy service in the beginning. still to this day I refuse to call ATT about issue for fear of them screwing up my account.

And people forget that, for many years, unlimited data plans were the most expensive plans that AT&T offered. So we've paid our dues.
 
So many AT&T keyboard warriors here...


Does T-Mobile really maintain their contracts after the honeymoon is over?
Does it really kee the streaming of music and videos out of the quota? Where is the catch? if there is any?
 
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Capped data plans started because of people who abused the unlimited service in the past..

Why on earth would you think that? Capped data plans started when carriers realized that they have an additional way to suck money out of customers' pockets via data overages.
 
-Old GF UDP taxes and FAN discount 700 min family plan: 60+9.99+9.99+9.99+20(unlimited sms)+30+30+30+30 = 229.97
- 25 GB share plan ls 175 dollars + 60 access fee for 4 linens = 235 dollars per month

Same price +- a cup of coffee(if you can call it coffee:) ) at S-B.

I don't see any savings here. Also unlimited data cap is 22 gb per line with UDP= 88 for 4 lines. I was throttled only one time for 5-7 minutes for the last 6 month. UDP plan has a great value, that's why people sell it 650 and up now on eBay.
Sorry, but I don't understand your logic.

Our main plan isn't $175, it's $100 plus fees/tax. After looking at it, it's actually 15GB a month plus rollover which puts it over 25. The other three users on the plan use less than 3GB a month combined so the majority is available for my use.

So $100 + 15 + 15 + 15 (other three lines) + 25 for my iphone (att next) + 25 for one other iphone (att next). $195 plus fees. Still substantially cheaper than the $250+ it was on the old plan.
 
There is a reason people are moving to T-Mobile.
And there's a reason some are leaving T-Mobile as well.
I made the jump from AT&T to T-Mobile.
Worst decision ever. Minimal (2G/3G) coverage in rural areas, spotty coverage on the highway between AZ and California (I travel to LA and SD a lot), and poor building penetration. Band 12 is still not deployed in most of AZ and my 6 Plus doesn't support it anyway.

Yeah their LTE was fast, when you could get a good signal. I had the Cell Spot in my house, without it, I barely got 4G.
WiFi calling dropped more calls than I could count during hand off.
So after a little over a year with T-Mobile, I went back to AT&T.
AT&T's LTE is not as fast as T-Mobile's, but I can get an LTE signal pretty much everywhere I go. Even on I-10 between PHX and LA.
 
Our main plan isn't $175, it's $100 plus fees/tax. After looking at it, it's actually 15GB a month plus rollover which puts it over 25. The other three users on the plan use less than 3GB a month combined so the majority is available for my use.

So $100 + 15 + 15 + 15 (other three lines) + 25 for my iphone (att next) + 25 for one other iphone (att next). $195 plus fees. Still substantially cheaper than the $250+ it was on the old plan.

I don't argue or want to proof that I'm right, you are wrong , but you should also calculate 400 discount every 2 years , which on your 5 lines gives 2000/24= 83.33(3) per month...., but you now have free Mexico roaming, free Canada/ Mexico long distance(5 dollars for me per line) and free worldwide SMS service. Plus not everybody got unlimited minutes with GF plans, like I did. Also my plan is going to be 5 dollars more per month per line.

Also if I were you with your plan I call retention dept. and ask them to bump your plan from 15 Gb to 20 Gb. A lot of people report that they have a success to get extra 5 Gb free.
 
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