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psssh.. WiFi Calling? They're doing it just now?
already got it with T-Mobile since the 6 was announced last year! lol :D
T-Mobile (and Sprint) needed it quite a bit more given the much more limited coverage the network has compared to AT&T and Verizon.
 
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As an AT&T employee, you do realize that they tell us absolutely nothing ahead of time because they know some idiot will blab it to the first tech website he/she can find? We find out stuff at the same time the general public does. Heck, even browsing the web will get you info quicker than AT&T releases in our employee portal.

Oh, and to confirm... I could ask 90 employees in this county what "WiFi Calling" is, and maybe 1 would be able to answer intelligently.
 
My AT&T microcell SUCKS. My iPhone constantly switches off the microcell to my local crappy tower. Can't wait for it wifi calling.
I used to have the same problem. However, the MicroCell has a setting to disable this handoff. I know, it would have been helpful to know that earlier. Better late than never. Once I disabled the setting, it's been better ever since.
 
I was excited that ATT would roll it out like TMO did, so I could dump my home phone line. If they do it like people have described, looks like I can't do that. :-(

I haven't read anything that indicates that you wouldn't be able to do that. What have you read that makes you think you won't be able to do that?
 
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I have a microcell 3g that I use. Anyone else have one and will you be getting rid of your microcell? How will this WIFI calling function? When I get home and connect to wifi, will wifi calling be enable automatically so I can make calls as soon as I get connected to wifi? Can you specify the wifi networks you want to use wifi calling on? Or do you have to toggle wifi calling on / off every time you want to use it?
 
All of us with T-Mobile would like to welcome AT&T subscribers to the 21st century.

That's because wifi calling is needed for TMO customers due to their horrendously bad signal service in most of the country. They had to come up with something new just to keep what little customers they do have from jumping ship.

Giants like AT&T and VZW aren't forced with that same mentality for obvious reasons.
 
let me begin by saying I'm far from an expert on wifi calling BUT i did play around with it a bit on TMobile over the past few weeks and can tell you this much as far as TMobile's function is, handoff from LTE to WiFi & vice versa seems to work fairly well and this has been successfully tested from their end, however......handoff from 4G to Wifi & vice versa is not possible yet.....hoping AT&T's wifi calling feature will handle both handoff options from the get go

I have a microcell 3g that I use. Anyone else have one and will you be getting rid of your microcell? How will this WIFI calling function? When I get home and connect to wifi, will wifi calling be enable automatically so I can make calls as soon as I get connected to wifi? Can you specify the wifi networks you want to use wifi calling on? Or do you have to toggle wifi calling on / off every time you want to use it?
 
I haven't read anything that indicates that you wouldn't be able to do that. What have you read that makes you think you won't be able to do that?

Because I want to use the WiFi for my home phone. With my TMO phone, it defaults to use wifi.... which is preferred... connects quicker, call quality is clearer and more reliable.

With AT&T, it seems they're using it only if the network isn't good enough.. which is not what I want.
 
Where YOU live at

Not trying to be confrontational... but I don't think you'll find many people who find T-Mo's LTE coverage acceptable at this point. Improved over 5 years ago, yes. Tolerable, yes. Acceptable by 2015 standards, hardly. And I'll caveat that by saying I have both TMO and ATT and I travel extensively domestic and internationally.

TMO doesn't even get signal on the runways at SFO, or the north runways at LAX... and that's bad... not just poor reception, NOTHING. If you're in TBIT (LAX) or Intl Term (SFO), you literally have to use wifi because there is no data service, it's THAT bad.
 
first iMessage, now wifi calling, soon we won't even need a carrier!

And Apple knows this... I'm almost always on Wifi wherever I go, so I can use Google Hangouts or Facetime Audio for calls. I don't even have a plan anymore for my iPhone 5. I simply use it on WiFi for free. And with Xfinity wifi hotspots all around, I can even make calls away from my normal wi-fi.

Apple needs to be an MVNO and simply give us a year free with the purchase of a new iphone. If you got a year free with a new iphone, people would maybe upgrade yearly, so they sell their current model, and then pay not so much out of pocket, and get another free year of service. I'd upgrade annually if I could get free service. Just give me 5GB/month data, for use with both voice and standard data. I can live with that.
 
Not trying to be confrontational... but I don't think you'll find many people who find T-Mo's LTE coverage acceptable at this point. Improved over 5 years ago, yes. Tolerable, yes. Acceptable by 2015 standards, hardly. And I'll caveat that by saying I have both TMO and ATT and I travel extensively domestic and internationally.

TMO doesn't even get signal on the runways at SFO, or the north runways at LAX... and that's bad... not just poor reception, NOTHING. If you're in TBIT (LAX) or Intl Term (SFO), you literally have to use wifi because there is no data service, it's THAT bad.

I think the number of happy T-Mobile customers is much higher than you may think. I'm sure happy. I'm rarely on anything but LTE. EDGE? Haven't seen it in a long time. Whenever I'm on "4G" or EDGE, it's either because I force it to do some testing, or because of the iPhone's terrible ability of holding onto weaker signals compared to other devices.

According to RootMetrics and Sensorly, T-Mobile has LTE on all of their runways.
 
I used to have the same problem. However, the MicroCell has a setting to disable this handoff. I know, it would have been helpful to know that earlier. Better late than never. Once I disabled the setting, it's been better ever since.

Wow thanks!!!
 
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I think the number of happy T-Mobile customers is much higher than you may think. I'm sure happy. I'm rarely on anything but LTE. EDGE? Haven't seen it in a long time. Whenever I'm on "4G" or EDGE, it's either because I force it to do some testing, or because of the iPhone's terrible ability of holding onto weaker signals compared to other devices.

According to RootMetrics and Sensorly, T-Mobile has LTE on all of their runways.

LOL, well Florida is about as flat as can be so you don't have the coverage issues most of the rest of the country has when it comes to TMO. I was in Ft Myers and had both my TMO and ATT phone, and the TMO phone was almost always on 4G or E... it was awful. Driving across to FLL and MIA, the only places I had reliable service were in the downtown areas.

Well you can say "root metrics shows xxxx" but I speak from personal experience. SFO's coverage is poor for everyone, but its downright AWFUL for TMO. The funny thing is if you go to TMO's website and put in SFO, it populates "customer approved locations" ... and if you look at the runways and international terminal area, it supports EXACTLY what I said.
 
Because I want to use the WiFi for my home phone. With my TMO phone, it defaults to use wifi.... which is preferred... connects quicker, call quality is clearer and more reliable.

With AT&T, it seems they're using it only if the network isn't good enough.. which is not what I want.

I haven't seen anything official to indicate that this is the case. Speculation is running rampant and no one really knows.

The only thing I've seen remotely close to this is the "Wi-Fi Assist" feature in the latest iOS 9 beta that will automatically switch the call over to cellular if Wi-Fi connectivity is poor. The way I read that, as long as Wi-Fi calling is enabled and your Wi-Fi connection doesn't suck, the phone will default to using Wi-Fi calling. If your Wi-Fi connection sucks, the phone will fall back to the cellular network. If that is indeed how it will work, I think that's a pretty good implementation, personally.
 
I haven't seen anything official to indicate that this is the case. Speculation is running rampant and no one really knows.

The only thing I've seen remotely close to this is the "Wi-Fi Assist" feature in the latest iOS 9 beta that will automatically switch the call over to cellular if Wi-Fi connectivity is poor. The way I read that, as long as Wi-Fi calling is enabled and your Wi-Fi connection doesn't suck, the phone will default to using Wi-Fi calling. If your Wi-Fi connection sucks, the phone will fall back to the cellular network. If that is indeed how it will work, I think that's a pretty good implementation, personally.

I'd say this is pretty official... from the AT&T iPhone WiFi Calling Terms & Conditions: "Your device will only make and receive Wi-Fi calls and texts when cellular coverage is weak or unavailable (for example, in poor coverage areas or when your device is in airplane mode with Wi-Fi enabled)."
 
LOL, well Florida is about as flat as can be so you don't have the coverage issues most of the rest of the country has when it comes to TMO. I was in Ft Myers and had both my TMO and ATT phone, and the TMO phone was almost always on 4G or E... it was awful. Driving across to FLL and MIA, the only places I had reliable service were in the downtown areas.

Well you can say "root metrics shows xxxx" but I speak from personal experience. SFO's coverage is poor for everyone, but its downright AWFUL for TMO. The funny thing is if you go to TMO's website and put in SFO, it populates "customer approved locations" ... and if you look at the runways and international terminal area, it supports EXACTLY what I said.

Uhh, which phone were you using? I had not a single issue anywhere in Ft. Lauderdale and Miami (except for some slower-than-expected LTE in south beach, or whatever the touristy areas are). LTE everywhere, no issues with calls or texts.

I don't think we're looking at the same maps...
 
I'd say this is pretty official... from the AT&T iPhone WiFi Calling Terms & Conditions: "Your device will only make and receive Wi-Fi calls and texts when cellular coverage is weak or unavailable (for example, in poor coverage areas or when your device is in airplane mode with Wi-Fi enabled)."

I had not seen that. My only real problem with that is that I don't know what AT&T's definition of "poor coverage" is. Otherwise, I think what most people want is to be able to make and receive calls anywhere without thinking about whether the call is being routed over the cell network or Wi-Fi. Most people expect the phone to use the best possible network automatically without them having to think about it. If AT&T's implementation of Wi-Fi calling will accomplish that, most folks will be satisfied.
 
I had not seen that. My only real problem with that is that I don't know what AT&T's definition of "poor coverage" is. Otherwise, I think what most people want is to be able to make and receive calls anywhere without thinking about whether the call is being routed over the cell network or Wi-Fi. Most people expect the phone to use the best possible network automatically without them having to think about it. If AT&T's implementation of Wi-Fi calling will accomplish that, most folks will be satisfied.

Agreed, my thing with wanting to replace my home phone is the general call quality (over wifi on TMO at least) is FAR superior to that of a call placed over the cell network. It's far less digital sounding, you don't have those issues where you send the call and it just hangs, etc. It just works better, like a FaceTime call. And that's comparing wifi on TMO to cell calls on ATT and TMO. The thing that drives me nuts about using a cell vs a landline is the latency that still exists.... and the only semi-full-duplex nature of cell service.
 
Uhh, which phone were you using? I had not a single issue anywhere in Ft. Lauderdale and Miami (except for some slower-than-expected LTE in south beach, or whatever the touristy areas are). LTE everywhere, no issues with calls or texts.

I don't think we're looking at the same maps...

iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. Well I speak from usage experience. Why do you think people pay AT&T and Verizon twice the price of TMO and SPRINT? Because they work better, so it's a trade-off. It's not some secret that TMO has great rates. It's a balance between your level of tolerance. If it works for you, great. I live in California and their network is FAR from being on par with AT&T... so maybe my bar of expectation is higher because of AT&T being pretty good, but that's the comparison I have. For example, if I drive SF to Reno, my AT&T phone will work 90% of the drive. TMO about 60%... In most cases in major cities it works fine, but it's the situations where I'm in a neighborhood or inside of a store where TMO really comes out showing their shortcomings.

I use TMO for my international phone... for the international data it's worth me spending $50 a month just to have the line. But for day to day use, no way. They're years behind AT&T in overall experience. Defend what you buy if you will, but the reality is the reality of their overall experience trailing ATT\VZW significantly
 
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