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I wonder how the performance is compared to their MicroCell. Can anybody weigh in with their experience after they've tried it?
I have an AT&T iPhone... and MicroCell tower in my home. It's tied to my Comcast internet. Works well enough. i live in the pine forests of Northeast Texas... no AT&T service. But the MicroCell tower makes it possible. i wonder if the AT&T WiFi calling replace the MicroCell? still must be connected to the internet somehow. local phone company is a cooperative not connected to AT&T. you can understand the hoops i jump through for AT&T.
 
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For you, but not their customer base as a whole.

That's utterly untrue. If T-Mobile were to charge what AT&T charged, nobody would buy into T-Mobile. The fact that they're cheaper and have more appealing ways to subscribe is why people use them. I think you're going to find it hard to get supporters to jump on board your "TMO's network is just as good at ATT's" train.
 
So apparently it is some sort of trial deal.... We are the guinea pigs for this feature.
 

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That's utterly untrue. If T-Mobile were to charge what AT&T charged, nobody would buy into T-Mobile. The fact that they're cheaper and have more appealing ways to subscribe is why people use them. I think you're going to find it hard to get supporters to jump on board your "TMO's network is just as good at ATT's" train.

So, you're speaking on behalf of their nearly 60 million subscribers? Sigh...

I never said they're just as good as AT&T, as that's too broad of a statement. Though, for me and where I visit, they are better, especially for the price.
 
So, you're speaking on behalf of their nearly 60 million subscribers? Sigh...

I never said they're just as good as AT&T, as that's too broad of a statement. Though, for me and where I visit, they are better, especially for the price.

Fact Check: 50 million subs including their prepaid MetroPCS base.

See, even you can't say they're as good (or in your case you just said they're better, LOL) than AT&T without throwing in the caveat of "for the price"... that's my whole point. If the price\plan\offering were the same I GUARANTEE you wouldn't even CONSIDER them, you'd have AT&T... thanks for making my point in your own comment.
 
Fact Check: 50 million subs including their prepaid MetroPCS base.

See, even you can't say they're as good (or in your case you just said they're better, LOL) than AT&T without throwing in the caveat of "for the price"... that's my whole point. If the price\plan\offering were the same I GUARANTEE you wouldn't even CONSIDER them, you'd have AT&T... thanks for making my point in your own comment.

Where'd you pull 50 million from? They have 58.9 million, including MetroPCS, as of Q2 '15.

The "for the price" bit was actually an afterthought. Even if prices were the same, there's no way I'd still stay on AT&T. T-Mobile provides me better service and features where I frequently visit. The price just happens to be quite a bit lower while still doing so.

My entire point is that it all depends on the individual subscriber and where they want their service to work for them.
 
Where'd you pull 50 million from? They have 58.9 million, including MetroPCS, as of Q2 '15.

The "for the price" bit was actually an afterthought. Even if prices were the same, there's no way I'd still stay on AT&T. T-Mobile provides me better service and features where I frequently visit. The price just happens to be quite a bit lower while still doing so.

My entire point is that it all depends on the individual subscriber and where they want their service to work for them.

Then congrats on being "the one guy"
Where'd you pull 50 million from? They have 58.9 million, including MetroPCS, as of Q2 '15.

The "for the price" bit was actually an afterthought. Even if prices were the same, there's no way I'd still stay on AT&T. T-Mobile provides me better service and features where I frequently visit. The price just happens to be quite a bit lower while still doing so.

My entire point is that it all depends on the individual subscriber and where they want their service to work for them.

Not going to argue with you. It's like you say, the individual and their service and how it works for them, but all I'll say is you're fooling yourself if you don't think TMO's primary driving appeal factor is or ever has been anything but PRICE.
 
Not trying to be confrontational... but I don't think you'll find many people who find T-Mo's LTE coverage acceptable at this point. Improved over 5 years ago, yes. Tolerable, yes. Acceptable by 2015 standards, hardly. And I'll caveat that by saying I have both TMO and ATT and I travel extensively domestic and internationally.

TMO doesn't even get signal on the runways at SFO, or the north runways at LAX... and that's bad... not just poor reception, NOTHING. If you're in TBIT (LAX) or Intl Term (SFO), you literally have to use wifi because there is no data service, it's THAT bad.

A runway. You're trying to get cellular coverage on a runway?

You're making it sound like T-Mobile has the cellular coverage the likes of Cricket.

If only we could live in a glamorous world where we always got 5 dots of cellular coverage, and EVERY phone had LTE at 50 mega bits down! Even in the basement, even on the outskirts of the city where there are no businesses or houses, and even on a runway.

But that's not the case!
 
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Not going to argue with you. It's like you say, the individual and their service and how it works for them, but all I'll say is you're fooling yourself if you don't think TMO's primary driving appeal factor is or ever has been anything but PRICE.

They don't even position themselves as being the value leader (also admittedly). 3x 1GB (before throttling) lines on T-Mobile is $90/mo. AT&T is just $100.

If you think that the only appeal of T-Mobile is price, you are clearly unaware of the things happening in the US wireless industry.
 
A runway. You're trying to get cellular coverage on a runway?

You're making it sound like T-Mobile has the cellular coverage the likes of Cricket.

If only we could live in a glamorous world where we always got 5 dots of cellular coverage, and EVERY phone had LTE at 50 mega bits down!

But that's not the case!
What's wrong with having cellular coverage on a runway (seems like Verizon and AT&T does in most places) or even more so in airport terminals?

(And isn't Cricket using AT&T as their network, meaning their coverage should basically be that of AT&T?)
 
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Where'd you pull 50 million from? They have 58.9 million, including MetroPCS, as of Q2 '15.

The "for the price" bit was actually an afterthought. Even if prices were the same, there's no way I'd still stay on AT&T. T-Mobile provides me better service and features where I frequently visit. The price just happens to be quite a bit lower while still doing so.

My entire point is that it all depends on the individual subscriber and where they want their service to work for them.

I do stand corrected on TMO total subs... 58.4 million. My number was inaccurate because the number I saw didn't include several of their sub-brands, USVI, PR subs, etc.

I did find it interesting that their latest quarterly financials show 48% of their subscriber base is sub-prime. It's easier to get customer satisfaction out of a base that wouldn't otherwise credit-qualify for AT&T or VZW. It's like if you go to a car dealership and they tell you your credit isn't good enough for a new car, then you go down the street and the used car salesman tells you he can finance you for a 5 year old car but get you into the car. If you're to be surveyed after the experience, you're naturally going to side with the dealership who would take you, even with sub-prime credit. Reading their financials from Q2 is interesting... didn't realize t hey were that much of a sub-prime carrier.
 
They don't even position themselves as being the value leader

If you think that the only appeal of T-Mobile is price, you are clearly unaware of the things happening in the US wireless industry.

Are you kidding me? LOL. Have you looked at their webpage?

Every aspect of their webpage is about the VALUE they provide. "...for only $30 a month" ... "we pay your shipping..." .... "save $120 off...."
 

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What's wrong with having cellular coverage on a runway (seems like Verizon and AT&T does in most places) or even more so in airport terminals?

I don't think there's an issue ... my AT&T works just fine on the runways at LAX and SFO... and in most locations in the terminals. T-Mobile doesn't...

This thread has really derailed from the ATT Wifi calling hasn't it? I guess I'm just defensive because I actually HAVE both an iPhone 6 on ATT and an iPhone 6 on TMO, so I have no bias one way or the other. I am not defending a product because I own it and am insecure about someone challenging the quality of it. Both carriers have their issues, but when it comes to coverage and coverage QUALITY, comparing T-Mobile to AT&T is like comparing a porsche to a Kia. There's huge value in TMO's service because it's cheaper and comes with a ton of great benefits, but when strictly comparing domestic coverage and the quality of the coverage area (even if you just compare coverage city to city), there's absolutely no comparison.
 
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I did find it interesting that their latest quarterly financials show 48% of their subscriber base is sub-prime. It's easier to get customer satisfaction out of a base that wouldn't otherwise credit-qualify for AT&T or VZW. It's like if you go to a car dealership and they tell you your credit isn't good enough for a new car, then you go down the street and the used car salesman tells you he can finance you for a 5 year old car but get you into the car. If you're to be surveyed after the experience, you're naturally going to side with the dealership who would take you, even with sub-prime credit. Reading their financials from Q2 is interesting... didn't realize t hey were that much of a sub-prime carrier.

Did you find that from http://investor.t-mobile.com/Cache/1500074333.PDF?Y=&O=PDF&D=&fid=1500074333&T=&iid=4091145? As far as I know, they're only making note of their prime/sub-prime EIP base.

Are you kidding me? LOL. Have you looked at their webpage?

Every aspect of their webpage is about the VALUE they provide. "...for only $30 a month" ... "we pay your shipping..." .... "save $120 off...."

If you're comparing promos, then sure.

I don't think there's an issue ... my AT&T works just fine on the runways at LAX and SFO... and in most locations in the terminals. T-Mobile doesn't...

I still find it very hard to believe that two sizeable US airports don't have an indoor DAS setup for all 4 carriers.
 
I still find it very hard to believe that two sizeable US airports don't have an indoor DAS setup for all 4 carriers.

By all means, fly to SFO. If you fly to HKG, PEK, PVG, NRT, ICN, SYD, etc, you'll likely fly out of the International Terminal (G side) if flying United. I would LOVE to be able to turn on my TMO phone and turn off my ATT phone just before jumping on the flight, but NO SERVICE\EDGE just doesn't cut it for me, and is precisely what you'll get both in the gate area (92, 94, 96, 98, 100, 102), as well as on the aircraft when sitting at any of those gates. Getting on an international flight I'd much rather be able to turn on TMO and use it before I go, but that's not reality. It's in my best interest to exaggerate in their favor if anything, LOL
 
I still find it very hard to believe that two sizeable US airports don't have an indoor DAS setup for all 4 carriers.

PS, SFO doesn't have ANY in-building repeaters inside. The cell towers for all major carriers are located on the Terminal 1 and 2 Garage risers (basically the doughnut hole of the airport) risers and project out across the airport and the terminals. Because TMO's frequency, they don't get the in-building penetration nor distance needed to reach the international gates or runways sufficiently.

Kinda like in San Diego. If you're downstairs at gate 1 or 2 (Southwest Gates), the thickness of the cement prevents the higher-frequency TMO signal from getting down there, so the user experience is similar.
 
WIFI Calling will only work in areas where AT&T has HD Voice Support.

I am in Hartford, CT and I have not heard any plans to offer HD Voice here, so doubtful we will get WIFI calling until AT&T rolls out HD Voice here.
 
WIFI Calling will only work in areas where AT&T has HD Voice Support.

I am in Hartford, CT and I have not heard any plans to offer HD Voice here, so doubtful we will get WIFI calling until AT&T rolls out HD Voice here.

My understanding is HD voice will be offered everywhere eventually. Eventually tends to be a long time tho with AT&T, hehe. It's just a matter of backhaul... so just like it took them a long time to increase their backhaul from 2G to HSPA to LTE across the majority of their network, it'll again take time to upgrade the backhaul across the majority of the network, which then brings HD Voice to your area. It's not a question of IF, it's WHEN.
 
What's wrong with having cellular coverage on a runway (seems like Verizon and AT&T does in most places) or even more so in airport terminals?

(And isn't Cricket using AT&T as their network, meaning their coverage should basically be that of AT&T?)


The only reason why you would have cellular coverage on a runway is so that you could use it while on the plane. But you're on A PLANE. You should be connected to the airlines wifi anyway. You won't be getting cellular coverage at 30,000 feet. That's air space.

Just because AT&T bought Cricket doesn't mean that Cricket is AT&T. It ain't. But now we're just getting into particulars.
 
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