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AT&T's iPhone 3G Data Plan and No Longer Revenue Sharing
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Unlocking...
Maybe now that the iphone is under a more typical arrangement, AT&T will allow for them to be unlocked at some point, although there is a rather strong profit motive to disallow that option, at any cost...
I was always curious about what would happen to a person that comes from a country that allows unlocked iphones moves to America. Will their phone be locked to get service from AT&T?
Maybe now that the iphone is under a more typical arrangement, AT&T will allow for them to be unlocked at some point, although there is a rather strong profit motive to disallow that option, at any cost...
I was always curious about what would happen to a person that comes from a country that allows unlocked iphones moves to America. Will their phone be locked to get service from AT&T?
If Apple require you to sign and agree to a contract in-store before selling you the iPhone then they will be acting on behalf of o2 as an authorised agent- now we don't know yet the specifics of how this is going to be handled but ultimately Apple would be legally obliged to make sure you understand what signing that contract entails.
As an example Carphone Warehouse act on behalf of the Network's to sell their products- they cannot simply say we're just selling you a phone it's Orange supplying the contract- nothing to do with us. They have to sit down with you- answer any questions about the contract you have and make you aware of the t&c's.
And yes failure to do this is tantamount to mis-selling. So is Apple Regent Street about to become the poshest phone store in the West End and train their staff to sell contracts or are they just going to sell the phone?
On-line that information is presented to you and you specifically have to tick the box "I accept the terms & conditions" even if you didn't bother reading them.
Haha, that is why I have a Touch and a T-mobile phone right now. I had an iPhone which i unlocked for T-mobile but I realized that if it died I wouldn't have any warranty. So I Craigslisted it.
Personally, I want an iPhone but my family plan with T-Mo right now is $69.99 +$10 for texts and if I had the new 3G iPhone it would go up to $129.99 per month apparently. Sure, you are getting a nice subsidy but they are making it back on the back end.
Honestly, if I were Apple I would be trying to figure out how to break my contract with AT&T. The lower priced hardware is poised to reach the mass market but the plans as described are not. Even worse, they aren't getting profit sharing anymore. What is their incentive to continue working with AT&T other than a contractual obligation?
You know you have a very valid point. Wasn't locking phones to a particular carrier made illegal???
New iPod Touch = $499.00 US
New MacBook Pro = $1999.00 US
Cheapo phone @$39.00 US (24 months) = $936.00
Total: $3,434.00..
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My math is wrong? huh!? Seriously, you get a different total? Then I have nothing else to add to my previous comments about being dumb as rocks.
The way I see it, it still comes out to about 2 grand U.S. for a 2 year commitment. Thanks but no thanks apple!
As far as the iPhone 3G goes I really like what it has to offer, BUT even though I can afford it, no way will I make that 2 Grand obligation!
Oh well maybe in 4 more years when I have a choice of carriers?--))
So any final word on copy/paste or if the screen is still scratch resistant glass?? I'm worried now.....
The one thing Apple is selling is useless without a service plan. You can't divorce the two, at least in the U.S. So while you may be technically correct about the handset price being lower, it's a moot point because that lower entry cost is offset by the service costs.
You aren't just buying a handset. You're buying the package consisting of the handset and the service. The service can only be bought from one supplier in the U.S. Anyone who is considering buying a phone with a 2 year contract is going to be looking at the TCO. If they're not, they shouldn't be allowed to manage their own money.
See above. Most people aren't venting at Apple, either.
I'd beg to differ. SMS is a hugely popular service and the iPhone has a fantastic SMS app. It'd be a shame to buy an iPhone and never take advantage of it.
Lol man watch out. Your theory challenges the majority of the super brains around here and can create quite an aftershock.
But what I find most shocking is that the average Macrumors user is a ****ing caveman. People can't even do simpliest math in here!!! They should go to a ****ing school and get some education before being allowed to post.
don't know why I am always surprised of all the anger here. Perhaps it's the idea of this time it is for a $10 increase. Oh well... Myself, I am quite happy with the new deal and will be buying 2 on the 11th. Yes, I could do all kind of things to get a 'better' deal or value, however, the iphone 3G package is worth a few extra bucks. Frankly, I passed on the 1st revision because of the edge network. 3G is very nice, and so are the many large and small improvements. One more thing... $199 is a sweet spot!
That's what I'm screamin'. Plus, if you work it right you can get in w/ some sweet discounts on monthly bills. My wife's a teacher, we may be eligible for a monthly discount there (we currently get a deal w/ Verizon because she's a teacher). I also chatted it up with an AT&T branch manager a couple months ago, said he'd square me up with 10% off or no sales tax, whichever I prefer. Play your cards right and find the good deals, you'll do quite well.
Plastic back
Actually, I don't send or receive lot of text messages ---- maybe 20 per month, on average, and I can afford the additional $15/month but that ugly plastic case is probably going to be a deal breaker for me.
I had planned on getting a v1 (just in case the rumored plastic case turned out to be true), but by the time I got around to going into an AT&T retail store, they had already stopped selling the iPhones. I was actually told about 10 days ago. I have no interest in GPS, or most of the other features that Jobs outlined, save for 3G, so this announcement was, overall, a huge disappointment for me.
I will take a look at the Instinct, and the other so-called iPhone killers, and compare those to the actual iPhone, and make a decision at that time. I am leaning towards a big, fat "NO" at the moment.
Jude
Actually, I don't send or receive lot of text messages ---- maybe 20 per month, on average, and I can afford the additional $15/month but that ugly plastic case is probably going to be a deal breaker for me.
I had planned on getting a v1 (just in case the rumored plastic case turned out to be true), but by the time I got around to going into an AT&T retail store, they had already stopped selling the iPhones. I was actually told about 10 days ago
. I have no interest in GPS, or most of the other features that Jobs outlined, save for 3G, so this announcement was, overall, a huge disappointment for me.I will take a look at the Instinct, and the other so-called iPhone killers, and compare those to the actual iPhone, and make a decision at that time. I am leaning towards a big, fat "NO" at the moment.
Jude
I agree, and at the same time one has to really take a look at the 3G coverage area. Not everyone has 3G in their immediate area. With that said why should someone that doesn't have access to 3G pay for it? Perhaps the price increase should have been based by area code and prefix? Most consumers really rather not pay for something they can't use.
BINGO! Someone here gets it! "It's the same folks! If it walks like a Duck then......"
You're absolutely right. SMS is fast becoming the standard form of communication. I work with several people who *only* text unless it's really important. At the risk of being politically incorrect, having a cell phone w/o texts is reserved for the elderly or the extremely technologically ignorant, the first of which isn't even a target demographic, and the second is being rounded up bit by bit thanks to a mobile phone that finally functions and is actually designed to be easy to use.
our standard texting rates are on the back of any brochure.
$5-200txt
$15-1500txt
$20-UNL txt
should b on the website somewhere
Text messages are very important to me.
I can't pick up the phone or check a voicemail while I am in class, but I can certainly read and write a text. And this goes for any place where noise must be kept to a minimum!
Text messages are also good if you have to remember something. i.e. an address or a food order.
LOL... $199 and $299 is for everybody THAT RENEWS THEIR AGREEMENT. you cant buy it w/o renewing your agreement so you are automatically getting the discount!
i c, but the iphone rates are not standard, right? so how are you positive that the plan will no longer include the 200 sms's that it does right now?
i'm not trying to be a pain, i just want a clear explanation..
Deal Breaker
I was looking forward to the new iPhone for a long time. But now that I have this information I am totally disinchanted and have lost my interest. I'm not paying $30 bucks a month for a data plan. That's rediculous. This has officially cured me of my iPhone obscession!
I was looking forward to the new iPhone for a long time. But now that I have this information I am totally disinchanted and have lost my interest. I'm not paying $30 bucks a month for a data plan. That's rediculous. This has officially cured me of my iPhone obscession!
the rate itself of $30 is standard now, obviously different provisioning is required if u have iphone, blackbery, or another pda device. standard rate tho, all of which do not include any texts.
100% positive on everything, i worked all day today and got all my at&t emails after the WWDC that stated the new changes.
Nobody needs an iphone, esp at these prices.
Deal with it if you must.
If your in class you should be paying attention and not ****ing with you phone!
Kids
Wow. Incredible reactions.
Yesterday it was $400 and $20 a month for data.
Today its $200 and $30 a month for data (and not the same data, mind you... faster data.)
And that's apparently just too much for anyone to handle. Well, more iPhone 3G for me then.