Ah come on now. You and I both know you will buy one. I have never seen so many people whine about $10 increase. I wouldn't get to worked up the day of this release because there is still stuff that we don't know about the plans and how all of this will exactly work. The same goes with people crying about having to go activate it in store. For the next week people will be angry and whine about whatever, but after that they will go for it.
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AT&T's iPhone 3G Data Plan and No Longer Revenue Sharing
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It's an error in your logic. No need to be belligerent, as well.
cheapo phone no data: (Let's entertain your $40/mo) = $960.
Iphone w/full features: $100x2 years for Mobileme. $109x24mo (as demonstrated earlier in this thread). iphone $200. That's 200+2616+200. That's over $3000. So already there's a difference of $2000.
That doesn't include the gear. (cases, screen covers, insert your fetish here). It doesn't include all the apps you're going to buy for the phone. It doesn't include Apple Care if you were so inclined. The math adds up pretty quick for a full-featured iPhone vs. a cheapo-phone you don't care about or do much with.
So you're both off a bit on the the math -- it's just that he's a bit closer to reality than you.
well if you are right, then it's $15 more than i pay now. this doesn't exactly thrill me, but i already pay a lot and this way i will be getting much faster internet. plus with the 1500 sms plan i still fall under $100. and 1500 is unlimited for me.
Wow. Incredible reactions.
Yesterday it was $400 and $20 a month for data.
Today its $200 and $30 a month for data (and not the same data, mind you... faster data.)
And that's apparently just too much for anyone to handle. Well, more iPhone 3G for me then.
Yes, true, but also take into account an extra $5 for text messaging, and those of us (myself included) who can't take advantage of 3G at this moment. We'll be paying 3G prices for EDGE speeds. Doesn't seem fair to me.
How do we know that you must pay 3G prices? Source? It seems to me that you could probably still get a $20 a month edge plan and go to the little tab in iPhone v2.0 software that says "3G on / off".
This is speculation. But speculating that subscribers in a non-3G area will have to pay for 3G is just as much speculatin'
Totally agree with runxc24. We don't even have 3g in our state and we have to pay $15 extra a month? Way to bring down the price for the 56% of people who couldn't afford the iPhone.
Yes, I agree; my speculation is based on the fact that the att press release states a $30 charge for data, nothing else. I hope you're right, though, but I don't think att will see it that way.
its going to be a standard price just like our pda's now are... if you buy a 3G blackjackII or treo750 the standard rate is $30, no matter where you live.
JUST like, hard to belive i know, if someone lives in an area that only offers 1G(GPRS) out in the couuuuntry they still have to pay that standard web rate of $30
Where does it say the 3G pricing is mandatory? Am I missing something? Are official plans / rates even posted yet?
I'm pretty sure there's gonna be an option to skip 3G for those that don't live where they have 3G!
Just think of it like data roaming in other countries, only more locally: if you happen to travel to a city that HAS 3G, the 3G antennae will kick in and you'll pay out the rear for 3G data (if you are only subscribed to Edge). OR just go to the option menu and turn 3G off - voila, no 3G.
Just checked on ATT Premier (corp.) plans ... iPhone not listed, but an AT&T Tilt can be purchased without a data plan, only penalty is loss of $100 rebate.
Perhaps iPhone 3G will have similar provisions for those who can live with WiFi only.
So.
Who's waiting in line for their new iPhone tonight?
Guess my "backup" 1st gen will be my main line for a little longer now. I'm going to wait until the first billion people test out the phone when it comes out in July and wait until the dust settles with these other issues. Hoping this is just a knee jerk reaction. I also hope the phone is as impressive as they say.
Well, guess we have a month to b&*ch, then everything will be peachy. We wont even remember complaining about these issues after the 3G comes out. You'll see. How soon we forget.
Who's waiting in line for their new iPhone tonight?
Guess my "backup" 1st gen will be my main line for a little longer now. I'm going to wait until the first billion people test out the phone when it comes out in July and wait until the dust settles with these other issues. Hoping this is just a knee jerk reaction. I also hope the phone is as impressive as they say.
Well, guess we have a month to b&*ch, then everything will be peachy. We wont even remember complaining about these issues after the 3G comes out. You'll see. How soon we forget.
So.
Who's waiting in line for their new iPhone tonight?
Gah, I'm not that much of a fanboy... haha.
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AT&T really missed the boat. They could have announced No Price Increase and been better for it; people would have thought "That's Cool".
I guess maybe 1) AT&T didn't learn from Apple's iPhone price move-less is more, and 2) With having the market locked in the States, why should they care?
Bad move, they could have just blown away the competition with the "Same Price-Faster Speed" publicity alone! They're still acting with the old Phone Company mentality
AT&T really missed the boat. They could have announced No Price Increase and been better for it; people would have thought "That's Cool".
I guess maybe 1) AT&T didn't learn from Apple's iPhone price move-less is more, and 2) With having the market locked in the States, why should they care?
Bad move, they could have just blown away the competition with the "Same Price-Faster Speed" publicity alone! They're still acting with the old Phone Company mentality
people people people...
the data plan will be required when u sign up, u can take it off later if you want.
official plans arent posted yet im sure, jus giving everyone a heads up since i work in the store and found everything out today.
Actually you are way off as well. First to compare apples to apples (no pun intended) you should exclude the mobileme -$200, since the $39 plan is base with no taxes and fees going with base iphone plan would be $75 (lower by $24x24 vs. your calc) -$576. So in total your number should come down by $776. Plus the purpose of having a mobile phone is to be mobile (i.e. no laptop to lug) and you get GPS & hi-speed non-wifi Internet (not sure if iTouch will have).
The AT&T service and rates are good (cheaper than my smartphone plans with Verizon). Now if no AT&T service in your area, then you are out of luck (but you shouldn't be living in the boonies anyway...maybe we should add moving costs into cost of ownership). Not to mention, in my opinion, all of the Windows based Smartphones are horrible (I owned several), it's not so much hardware as much as software.
Bottom line: if someone likes the phone and believes the plan is good, then buy it, otherwise don't. but feel free to continue to complain, it is very entertaining.
New iPod Touch = $499.00 US
New MacBook Pro = $1999.00 US
Cheapo phone @$39.00 US (24 months) = $936.00
Total: $3,434.00..
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lol -- Now you are adding cases, screen covers and apps to the total? You should include a co-pay for medication as well.
This is the original post I responded to. You show me where he was speaking of the crap you spew...
He was indicating that for around $2,500.00 he is going to get a 32GB iPod Touch, a dingy (cheapo) phone and new MacBook Pro. Everything you imply cannot even be read between the lines... I sure hope you work somewhere where others are required make the 'hard' decisions.
My post demonstrated otherwise. Seeing that my math is rather basic, it's as perfect as the system is, and as I intended it to be, so it cannot be wrong.
Seriously, this forum (generally speaking of course) has a tendency to attract total morons.
As far as the new iPhone goes, I look forward to the release of new applications for it, which of course coupled with 3G and GPS makes it all that much more attractive. My current Blackberry with its data plan will go out the window as quickly as I find applications to replace those I use on a daily basis.
Um, yes. For all current PDA phones there is a $30 Personal PDA plan. There is
no such thing as an AT&T "Edge only" data plan.
You weren't on the conference call today, were you.
It was implied that the contract is for the line AND the data plan. Sort of like the international package on the iPhone.
Don't count on being able to remove that package if you have an iPhone IMEI on the account...
BIG disappointment
today was a joke...waited a month for the Big News- apple will be making lots of money by tapping deeper into global, business & developers markets.
big upgrade to the user? GPS & a few secs faster...wait another month to get one...told it's cheaper when ultimately it's not...$100 for an additional 8 gig...what will unlimited texts cost? it was a $5 increase at sprint, my research said $20 at AT&T...blackberry tethers, iphone doesn't.
that's what all the hype was about?...granted, mobileme is more ideal than hotsyncing a treo, but you'll pay for that too.
boooo!!
today was a joke...waited a month for the Big News- apple will be making lots of money by tapping deeper into global, business & developers markets.
big upgrade to the user? GPS & a few secs faster...wait another month to get one...told it's cheaper when ultimately it's not...$100 for an additional 8 gig...what will unlimited texts cost? it was a $5 increase at sprint, my research said $20 at AT&T...blackberry tethers, iphone doesn't.
that's what all the hype was about?
...granted, mobileme is more ideal than hotsyncing a treo, but you'll pay for that too.boooo!!
Just kind of a "for what it's worth" post,
I spoke with the manager of my local store here (att NOT Apple) who is also a friend , and he showed/ read me the info that he has on the new iphone, rates, ect and what it said was that yes, it was going to be $30 a month instead of the $20 that it is now, and yes they were dropping the 200 free text. It said in regard to the "old" iphone, that the rate plan would continue as is "until further notice". Also that you did NOT have to be eligible for an "upgrade" (as it was NOT being subsidized! The 199.00 was just the flat price)
I actually saw this paper work, but as I said it is just a FWIW post.
(I read everything with a grain of salt. Not everyone tells the truth about who they are, where they work, ect.. ect.. and lets face it , you all don't know me from Adam's house cat!!
Just wanted to pass along what I knew!
Have a great night everyone!
I spoke with the manager of my local store here (att NOT Apple) who is also a friend , and he showed/ read me the info that he has on the new iphone, rates, ect and what it said was that yes, it was going to be $30 a month instead of the $20 that it is now, and yes they were dropping the 200 free text. It said in regard to the "old" iphone, that the rate plan would continue as is "until further notice". Also that you did NOT have to be eligible for an "upgrade" (as it was NOT being subsidized! The 199.00 was just the flat price)
I actually saw this paper work, but as I said it is just a FWIW post.
(I read everything with a grain of salt. Not everyone tells the truth about who they are, where they work, ect.. ect.. and lets face it , you all don't know me from Adam's house cat!!
Just wanted to pass along what I knew!
Have a great night everyone!
hahahaha
You have no idea how true it is what you wrote. That guy NEEDS those medications BADLY!
Or maybe he just needs a book like this...
