If Apple kept it on the main display, then it wouldnt be such an issue
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AV Artists Complain Monterey 'Orange Dot' Security Feature Makes Macs Unsuitable for Live Performances
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The problem is with the multiple displays a lot of people use, what is main to their current use focus may not be the one declared as main to the Mac software. If I am using a full-screen application on a secondary display, security warnings should, by default, show up on it. This should be configurable though, as sometimes I don't want to be bothered, or the security alert is something I know I caused.
Yes, because that is the only kind of problems ever reported here.
I can't see how this issue affects many home users. Are you using only a projector and never looking at your main screen menu?
No I said if you adhere to guidelines, an orange dot would not obstruct critical content (which my two examples showed) which would make it a less critical issue as you ensure any critical content would not be interrupted by that circle. I never said nobody can ever be distracted by it.
And I literally asked why can't you use ANOTHER COMPUTER for the projector ? Just run Resolume or Disguise or whatever you named it on your MAIN COMPUTER where that orange dot would be seen by no one. You need one and only one streaming client for that projector and it doesn't even need to be a Mac; An Apple TV, Android TV box or Raspberry Pi / Linux running VLC as RTSP client is sufficient for the task. "Big" multi-hardware setup my ass. With this setup nobody cares how "Big" your main computer is since you don't need to place it next to the projector; in fact you can better adjust its position for better audio receiving using a high-end wired mic.
Man you're doing a liveshow for business. You're not a collage boy doing your final project presentation in a class. Get your gears ready for god's sake.
Literally thinking, please.
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If only that were true! Remind me, how do I create a QLab addressable virtual surface comprising three physical projectors with an Apple TV? And while the VLC is a cute idea, the latency would be unacceptable (with RTSP you have to figure 500 ms on average). Could something be made to work with enough tweaking? Perhaps. Within budget and time constraints? Far less likely. And as rock solid as I know QLab to be? Not even close. (I wouldn't want to assume anyone else's experience with QLab is like my own but damn, I've gotten some mileage out of it.)
But honestly, bringing in additional hardware (and all that entails) is working around the issue. Apple gear works really well in this space. One hopes this misguided stab at "security" is course corrected sooner rather than later.
Hmmm.
Buying, transporting and configuring extra hardware for each projector - just to erase an orange dot?
And there'll be latency issues i fear.
And are we sure that the orange dot will disappear, soley by placing an AppleTV between computer and each projector? Surely if it's embedded in the video output from computer, it won't just magically be erased by a throughput device. Or am I mistaken?
What about those who are college boys doing final project presentations in a class... or early stage artists doing small scale installations in community galleries, or vjing in small clubs? They also gotta buy another machine after already spending $1000+ on a new mac?
I mean, Apple could fix it so that audience-facing content doesn't include security warnings, or those^^^ guys can buy a Windows/Linux machine... which do you think they'd prefer?
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The type of work that Mark and others' using Isadora do is related to large scale interactive theatre and dance performance. Many times this requires very specific projector mapping to a space and technically choreographed visuals and transitions working alongside audio and lighting design. Having a orange dot that reminds the audience constantly that they are looking at a Mac computer projection can destroy the theatre magic that theatre artists attempt to create. It's not a matter about a video playing behind a DJ. It's people using AV technology as an art medium. This often is combined with live video feeds to create effects to go along with the performance.
The security feature is awesome and makes a lot of sense on primary displays, but it doesn't make sense that Apple should require the orange dot on external display while in presentation.
Everyone dissing the article's argument just doesn't understand the type of work these artists are doing, tbh.
If you need a Mac to keep people entertained at your shows, you're not doing it right.
They don't need a Mac, they chose to use a Mac - it is a tool and it did what they needed it to do. Since it worked for what they needed it for, they were obviously doing it right. Until Apple broke it. If Apple doesn't fix the issue they may have no other option than to choose to use something other than a Mac in the future.
Yes, wasn't that suggested by the original author? He could replace the Mac with a Windows PC for this and not worry about the orange dot. Good solution for Apple.
"Critical content" area is everywhere on a stage where multiple projectors are mapped to all surface areas. Your "guidelines" are irrelevant for the use case that this complaint is coming from.
Not really sure what you're getting at here but it seems unnecessarily snarky.
And pi is a built-in constant included in a heap of visual arts libraries and packages anyway, so it doesn't even make any sense.
I'm sure all the artists in this thread are super glad they have all these people here to tell them what is and isn't important in their work.
As if anybody would notice that yellow dot on a gigantic screen? However, maybe it should only appear on the main screen instead of external displays.
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Thank you for clearly articulating the problem, @lmjoy You are absolutely bang on with your last statement; lack of understanding. I will gladly admit I was in that boat, too, and why I wanted clarity. Yours has been the only constructive response I have seen.
My mind went straight to modern-day content creators that inhabit the likes of YouTube and Twitch.
While I partially considered this scenario, I dismissed it as I didn’t understand why the camera would be recording while projecting. But I can’t rule out the possibility (I’m clearly not that creative myself);
Wishing you all the best for the holidays, however you choose to use/celebrate.
Take a moment to have a bit of a harder think about what you just said. Get it yet?
For all the “just throw more equipment at the problem” folks, I don’t work in the AV space but my past work has frequently involved hiring and interacting with people who are. I’m always amazed by how much can be done with a MacBook, a few cables, and some dongles. It’s like a professional studio that fits in a backpack. Adding more cost, complexity, failure points to that in a space that is already so low margin is just not acceptable. People bought a pro tool to do pro work, let them do it. I would be one of the people telling them to “make the orange dot go away or I will find someone who can”. It’s not a small deal and overscan is not a solution when you are sending to many different types, shapes, sizes of outputs.
Apple will fix this, they get it. They will either put it in as a protected setting or make it a command line switch that needs elevated security. This was an oversight that will soon be corrected for those affected.
Apple will fix this, they get it. They will either put it in as a protected setting or make it a command line switch that needs elevated security. This was an oversight that will soon be corrected for those affected.
I use this app as well. What I have noticed on my new 14 inch MacBook is that the camera activates momentarily when you turn the computer on and various other small things like certain apps you open it'll flash on for a second and flashback off. It is very very very annoying because it keeps making you wonder why did the camera turn on.
I'm really curious what it's doing here. Why turn on at all? Is it flashing a quick picture or a one second video or something?
I often use my laptop while I'm at the toilet so I'm hoping Apple isn't collecting a bunch of screenshots of me in a compromise position. This is America so that'll be worth at least $30,000 to me. Were all victims here!?