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As an audiovisual artist, I would simply use the blanking / masking feature of my projector to slightly crop the right side of the video output (on my Sony projector, that's #4 pixels of blanking) or the top (on my Sony projector, that's #6 pixels of blanking). Then, if I needed to, I would adjust the focal length of the lens and the lens shift to re-align the projected image onto my projection surface, whether it be a projection screen or a 3D surface for mapping. This isn't rocket science.
 
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As an audiovisual artist, I would simply use the blanking / masking feature of my projector to slightly crop the right side of the video output (on my Sony projector, that's #4 pixels of blanking) or the top (on my Sony projector, that's #6 pixels of blanking). Then, if I needed to, I would adjust the focal length of the lens and the lens shift to re-align the projected image onto my projection surface, whether it be a projection screen or a 3D surface for mapping. This isn't rocket science.
Right, it’s computer science. There are indeed workarounds. But Apple doesn’t sell itself as a company as “it just (needs you to create) work(around)s”, so I expect they will fix this shortly.
 
Right, it’s computer science. There are indeed workarounds. But Apple doesn’t sell itself as a company as “it just (needs you to create) work(around)s”, so I expect they will fix this shortly.
Were you around when every single Final Cut Pro 7 user was mad about Final Cut Pro X? If not, then I could easily understand the naivety surrounding Apple's position with respect to visual content creators. Wouldn't get my hopes up. That's why I shared a solution. Cheers.
 
Right, it’s computer science. There are indeed workarounds. But Apple doesn’t sell itself as a company as “it just (needs you to create) work(around)s”, so I expect they will fix this shortly.
One more thing : )

Others have spoken of CGDisplayCapture(_:) in Apple's developer documentation as another workaround for this issue. Having used that method in a private (non-commercial) audiovisual application, I can tell you it's not really ideal if you are unplugging and replugging your projectors or monitors from the Mac frequently, because that framework goes dark every time you do. The captured application that is sent out to the display is just plain black after disconnecting and reconnecting a new display. So, all of these software developers will need to counteract that somehow, if they implement that approach.

But, I believe that's going to be the only option for developers moving forwards and I would expect the existing "undot" software workaround to be eliminated at some point in the future. Just one person's opinion. Merry Christmas sir or ma'am.
 
No I said if you adhere to guidelines, an orange dot would not obstruct critical content (which my two examples showed) which would make it a less critical issue as you ensure any critical content would not be interrupted by that circle. I never said nobody can ever be distracted by it.

So by your logic, the menu bar on MacOS doesn't adhere to 'guidelines'.

Not everything is video production.
 
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Were you around when every single Final Cut Pro 7 user was mad about Final Cut Pro X? If not, then I could easily understand the naivety surrounding Apple's position with respect to visual content creators. Wouldn't get my hopes up. That's why I shared a solution. Cheers.
Yes, and I kept one old Mac just so I can run it if ever needed, so very good point. But that one was an example of Apple’s stubborn “jumps forward” like dropping drives and ports before everyone was prepared, while this one looks more like an unintentional screw up than a direction change to me, so I expect they will fix it. If they don’t, then I will start to agree with those that are saying Apple has completely lost touch with their original, professional customer base.
 
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Yes, and I kept one old Mac just so I can run it if ever needed, so very good point. But that one was an example of Apple’s stubborn “jumps forward” like dropping drives and ports before everyone was prepared, while this one looks more like an unintentional screw up than a direction change to me, so I expect they will fix it. If they don’t, then I will start to agree with those that are saying Apple has completely lost touch with their original, professional customer base.

This is simply UX gore. I'm sure they'll get around to correcting it.
 
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This is simply UX gore. I'm sure they'll get around to correcting it.
I'm almost certain they won't change it. This is a deliberate security feature that Apple is proud of, and is meant to be on every display. Most likely Apple will just say don't use displays for artistic output and that Apple will continue to put security and other system alerts on everything the software considers as a display. Whether or not Apple will support some other form of pure video output that can be used for artistic output is another question. Apple could easily provide a password protected security setting to toggle off system alerts to secondary displays, but I doubt they will.

People who need pure video output unmodified by random Apple system overlays may need to rethink how they are going to get their needs met. Maybe use some of the software hacks for a while but look to other solutions long-term. Take this issue as a warning from Apple that Apple doesn't want your business.
 
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I think Apple doesn't really care about professional users anymore and is slowly trying to extricate itself from that market. This lack of care, or more accurately lack of caring about professional needs, is what will drive professional users to other more supported platforms and I think Apple is OK with that happening. Apple wants high volume high profit business. The professional market is too small to really matter to Apple other than for prestige, which seems to be less important to Apple as time goes on.

Professional users are effectively in a somewhat abusive relationship with Apple. Some are sticking with Apple because it is hard for move to other platforms. Still it would be wise to be working on an exit strategy. This unnecessary orange dot wart is just one more hint of many that Apple really doesn't care about supporting this market.
This is where you’re wrong. The only thing this orange dot shows up on is the computer that is using an audio input source, either for audio or for linear timecode input for show control. There are media server solutions that use one computer for control and store all media and do all live fx on additional networked computers, using the primary computer merely as a control surface. Software that works that way is totally unaffected by this subtle change. However, software which is designed to be controlled on the same computer that is being used for playout is obviously impacted. But, that’s only some software, not all. macOS core frameworks remain the easiest and most exciting assets from which to build really, amazingly cool live visuals software in a teeny tiny fraction of the time as trying to do so on Windows. If the old fart companies are unable to get with the times, other software will replace them. It’s as simple as that.
 
They don't need a Mac, they chose to use a Mac - it is a tool and it did what they needed it to do. Since it worked for what they needed it for, they were obviously doing it right. Until Apple broke it. If Apple doesn't fix the issue they may have no other option than to choose to use something other than a Mac in the future.
I was talking about the idea of needing something more than yourself and instruments to entertain. If those things are not enough, you're doing it wrong.
 
I'm not a boomer. My mom isn't even a boomer. haha.
Not the point... you sound like one.

I was talking about the idea of needing something more than yourself and instruments to entertain. If those things are not enough, you're doing it wrong.
See, this is some classic 'things were best in my day' nonsense.

"If you need all those effect pedals you're playing guitar wrong... if you need all those cymbals you're playing the drums wrong... back in my day I could play a couple of spoons on my knee and tell a ribald limerick and that was all we needed! Kids today with their hipped-hop music and and ticked-tok dancing, baaaah!"

...but please, keep telling artists how to do their work. I'm sure they're all on the edge of their seats waiting for your sage advice about what is and isn't necessary to do their jobs.
 
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Not the point... you sound like one.


See, this is some classic 'things were best in my day' nonsense.

"If you need all those effect pedals you're playing guitar wrong... if you need all those cymbals you're playing the drums wrong... back in my day I could play a couple of spoons on my knee and tell a ribald limerick and that was all we needed! Kids today with their hipped-hop music and and ticked-tok dancing, baaaah!"

...but please, keep telling artists how to do their work. I'm sure they're all on the edge of their seats waiting for your sage advice about what is and isn't necessary to do their jobs.
Wow, you're taking this pretty serious. May I ask Why? I'm just a stranger who expressed the opinion that performers shouldn't need visual aids in order to sell tickets. Is that really something worthy of all this?
 
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Wow, you're taking this pretty serious. May I ask Why? I'm just a stranger who expressed the opinion that performers shouldn't need visual aids in order to sell tickets. Is that really something worthy of all this?

A projection of an imagine isn't always just a visual aid, sometimes it's the main attraction.
 
Wow, you're taking this pretty serious. May I ask Why? I'm just a stranger who expressed the opinion that performers shouldn't need visual aids in order to sell tickets. Is that really something worthy of all this?

all this? I'm just participating in the discussion... reacting to posts that you made in a thread that's primarily about video content, telling people that you think video content is unnecessary.

Of course you can ask why... but you're wrong, I'm not taking it seriously. Nothing about this interaction between you and me is serious. Hence the joke about spoons.

I'm also just a stranger expressing opinions... and mine is that the whole 'artists should/shouldn't do XYZ because I think so' is old and tired and usually ill-considered. The artists I know are mostly concerned with expressing their ideas in the best and most interesting way they can, using the tools they have at their disposal to make something engaging and compelling... doing the bare minimum simply to provide base level entertainment to an audience isn't their MO.

but I get that I'm probably coming off as kinda catty, so I'll leave it alone and wish you and your non-boomer mom a happy holiday instead.
 
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all this? I'm just participating in the discussion... reacting to posts that you made in a thread that's primarily about video content, telling people that you think video content is unnecessary.

Of course you can ask why... but you're wrong, I'm not taking it seriously. Nothing about this interaction between you and me is serious. Hence the joke about spoons.

I'm also just a stranger expressing opinions... and mine is that the whole 'artists should/shouldn't do XYZ because I think so' is old and tired and usually ill-considered. The artists I know are mostly concerned with expressing their ideas in the best and most interesting way they can, using the tools they have at their disposal to make something engaging and compelling... doing the bare minimum simply to provide base level entertainment to an audience isn't their MO.

but I get that I'm probably coming off as kinda catty, so I'll leave it alone and wish you and your non-boomer mom a happy holiday instead.
Thanks for keeping it light. This argument is ancient. Yes indeed, artists should stick to painting… preferably on the cave walls… don’t give me any of that newfangled canvas! If you keep it in the caves, you don’t have to worry about that orange dot in the sky!

Happy holidays to you all from this grumpy old man! Here’s hoping next year is less of a train wreck than the last couple.
 
all this? I'm just participating in the discussion... reacting to posts that you made in a thread that's primarily about video content, telling people that you think video content is unnecessary.

Of course you can ask why... but you're wrong, I'm not taking it seriously. Nothing about this interaction between you and me is serious. Hence the joke about spoons.

I'm also just a stranger expressing opinions... and mine is that the whole 'artists should/shouldn't do XYZ because I think so' is old and tired and usually ill-considered. The artists I know are mostly concerned with expressing their ideas in the best and most interesting way they can, using the tools they have at their disposal to make something engaging and compelling... doing the bare minimum simply to provide base level entertainment to an audience isn't their MO.

but I get that I'm probably coming off as kinda catty, so I'll leave it alone and wish you and your non-boomer mom a happy holiday instead.
There, see? This is the sort of thing the internet needs more of; exchanges like these. There are just far too many people fighting and screaming at one another these days, and it's really just tiresome. So tiresome in fact, that I simply don't bother anymore. I'll give my opinion, but the moment it invokes a curve in the road toward vitriol and aggression, I'm out. I don't care about "winning"... as I don't see any of this as a game to win. It's just people talking about (mostly) frivolous things that, at the end of the day, don't really matter.

Besides, it's far more rewarding building people up than it is tearing them down.
 
So by your logic, the menu bar on MacOS doesn't adhere to 'guidelines'.

Not everything is video production.
It’s outside of my guidelines I use so I don’t care if I get stuff cut out if the menu bar gets cut depending on what screen/billboard/whatever is showing my content. And I also done have animation or critical text on the menu bar which WOULD be distracting.

Seriously, ihaveathought2021 is saying similar things by masking it out. But why is everyone in my case about this?

It’s not just video production. You know in print it’s referred to bleed right? These kinds of guidelines is what you must use if you want stuff to not get cut out in certain situations. And you can come up with custom guidelines! That’s what branding deals with. I got a 20 page branding document from a client from how the font looks, to even how many pixels around the logo I need to adhere to.
 
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There, see? This is the sort of thing the internet needs more of; exchanges like these. There are just far too many people fighting and screaming at one another these days, and it's really just tiresome. So tiresome in fact, that I simply don't bother anymore. I'll give my opinion, but the moment it invokes a curve in the road toward vitriol and aggression, I'm out. I don't care about "winning"... as I don't see any of this as a game to win. It's just people talking about (mostly) frivolous things that, at the end of the day, don't really matter.

Besides, it's far more rewarding building people up than it is tearing them down.
Fully agree. I gave my two cents about 5 pages ago and people are still fighting me on it? It’s fine to have different opinions people!
 
Never mind the fact that a PC configured correctly would be less costly and perform better for this implementation. The OS API in Windows or any other OS for that matter give you full control of the interface. I've never understood the Artist brainwashing and attraction to the Apple platform. I've worked supporting Macs for 25+ years and the more I support them (30K macs) the less I understand it. Oh well, if everything worked perfectly I wouldn't have a job. ?
 
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