The brown box replacement I received doesn't have that type of warmer screen.
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The brown box replacement I received doesn't have that type of warmer screen.
can anyone who has received a brown box confirm the serial number if it's lower than your original ipad that it replaced?
i just want to know if the brown box units are fixed old ipads or totally new ones!
i just want to know if the brown box units are fixed old ipads or totally new ones!
the regent street store agreed my unit had backlight bleeding but had none in stock. They ordered me a replacement unit and made an appointment for next week for me to pick up the replacement.
Hopefully the fact they're ordering it means it will come from the latest stock therefore Samsung panels..
Hopefully the fact they're ordering it means it will come from the latest stock therefore Samsung panels..
Unlike backlight bleed, the yellow screens can be fixed with a firmware update. I am sure the LG screens are color calibrated in iOS, these new Samsung models are probably not. Personally the Samsung doesn't bother me, it is still way better than my original iPad 1.
i don't think it can be fixed by a software update. This issue also occurred on the second and the third generation of ipod touch (yellow on the 2nd, white on the 3rd) and according to apple, it was not a problem.
Honestly, it's just the difference between manufacturers LCD panels.
For me, and this is entirely preference, once I saw a "bright" non-warm panel, I couldn't stand looking at the dingy displays.
My girlfriend and I both bought 2006 MBPs, and my screen was "warm" and hers was more pure white. I was always envious
I think if I do return it, I'll aks the genius to let me evaluate the brown box unit against what I have, and if its worse, I'll just keep it. The whole process is sort of like finding a unit with the manufacturing variations that will bother you the least. I'm tired of losing my dignity and fueling my OCD by making 6 returns of the same product to the Apple store.
For me, dead pixels and dingy display are much, much, much worse than backlight bleed.
For me, and this is entirely preference, once I saw a "bright" non-warm panel, I couldn't stand looking at the dingy displays.
My girlfriend and I both bought 2006 MBPs, and my screen was "warm" and hers was more pure white. I was always envious
I think if I do return it, I'll aks the genius to let me evaluate the brown box unit against what I have, and if its worse, I'll just keep it. The whole process is sort of like finding a unit with the manufacturing variations that will bother you the least. I'm tired of losing my dignity and fueling my OCD by making 6 returns of the same product to the Apple store.
For me, dead pixels and dingy display are much, much, much worse than backlight bleed.
Chances are if it doesn't have backlight bleed it's a Samsung screen and if it's the Samsung it's going to be warmer than the LG.. high probability. The thing is, "warm" is being overplayed here IMO. Yes, my brown-box replacement is warm(er) than the display models but it's far from some truly warm screens that I have seen on other devices/computers.
An argument can be made that the store models are icy cold. I do remember thinking when I had my first one (with light-leak) that the screen was overly bright, even at 50%.
We can all agree that everyone has a preference between warm or cool screens but honestly, if folks start taking back iPads without light-leak with slightly warm screens you might as well stop by the pharmacy and get some meds while you are at it because you are in for a ride.
I just compared my iPhone, iMac and iPad again and the iPhone is cold (white WHITE screen) while my iMac is WAY soft warm and my iPad is right in the middle.
You are right. I think I am just cursed with such a preference for the cool, crisp looking screens that I'll settle for the light leak
Also, in my mind, white should be WHITE (like you described your iPhone)...if I doesn't matter, why does white balance functionality exist on cameras?
And I am one of the people that probably needs to stop by the pharmacy for some meds....I've run out
Also, in my mind, white should be WHITE (like you described your iPhone)...if I doesn't matter, why does white balance functionality exist on cameras?
And I am one of the people that probably needs to stop by the pharmacy for some meds....I've run out
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After looking at my replacement iPad for a while, this new (presumably Samsung) panel is really bugging me. At half brightness, it can't even come close to what the old one was. I compared it against an original iPad at 100%, and the old iPad was still brighter.
On top of this, there's a stuck pixel as well, so I'll be calling AppleCare today to try and figure something out.
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After looking at my replacement iPad for a while, this new (presumably Samsung) panel is really bugging me. At half brightness, it can't even come close to what the old one was. I compared it against an original iPad at 100%, and the old iPad was still brighter.
On top of this, there's a stuck pixel as well, so I'll be calling AppleCare today to try and figure something out.
This comparison is tough as for some reason the brightness of the iMac isn't showing up in the picture.. it isn't a glower but the screen is plenty bright as I look at it right now. For comparison purposes you can see the variance of the warm/cool screens. Yes, my iMac is quite old but in just using it everyday I never have the thought.. GEEZ.. this thing is YELLOW.. it is just warm. Hopefully you can at least see what a very cool-screened iPhone looks like next to what is a warm(er) iPad screen. Like I said, it seems like a very good balance to me. Yes, I could look at the iPad screen and without my meds think it is yellow.. but it is so slight that I just think it is how variations of screens will be. Just my $0.02. Oh, picture was taken with a Blackberry so they devices don't really look that blurry with regards to text/images.
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No screen expert but pretty sure their is nothing new about warm and cool screens.. heck, I think I've seen those terms in actual settings on very pricey TVs.
Yellow would be that glue issue and would be unacceptable.
Just to clarify: it's not so much the yellow that's bothering me specifically. The real thing here is the brightness issue. The "brown box" replacement (Samsung or whatever) is nowhere near as bright side by side. It does however seem to have better contrast, and show colors more accurately (amateur eye test here, no colorimeter). If it were brighter and didn't have a dead pixel, I wouldn't be complaining on here.
@PBz: image doesn't work...
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I can see your point on brightness level as I distinctly remember thinking DAYUM.. this screen is bright on my first iPad 2 with light-leak. I don't ever think I took it to 50%. The iPad I have now doesn't seem as BRIGHTBRIGHT but when I set the new one to 100% and go to a web page it gives my eyes that reaction like.. a bit much already. I use it around 50% all the time and love the screen.
PBz....the iPad in that picture looks good....compared to that iMac
Wish we could see yours next to one of the lightleak/cool iPads. Honestly that unit doesn't look that far off the cool iPhone your have. Would be good to see them compared in detail
Wish we could see yours next to one of the lightleak/cool iPads. Honestly that unit doesn't look that far off the cool iPhone your have. Would be good to see them compared in detail
PBz....the iPad in that picture looks good....compared to that iMac
Wish we could see yours next to one of the lightleak/cool iPads. Honestly that unit doesn't look that far off the cool iPhone your have. Would be good to see them compared in detail
The iMac isn't as bad as it looks but it is an original Intel 1.83 Intel Core Duo.. running Snow Leopard 10.6.7 like a Champ I might add..
I did the side-by-side comparison at an at&t store and yes, the light-leak version is cooler and brighter but when I showed the comparison to people they seemed to favor the Samsung/warmer screen. I even think my iPhone is a bit cool. Yes, the white looks white but for ease-of-viewing, especially for long periods of time, the slightly warmer is easier on my eyes. I don't know what is accurate.. warm/cold/etc. My point was if you are having repeated troubles with in-the-box iPad 2s, don't be afraid of a service-replacement. Yes, it will be warmer but if it bothers you that much it's a matter of deciding between the light-leak and a warmer screen. As it looks now it's likely production will be switched over and new-in-the-box iPad 2s will come with the warm screen so I don't think it's something you can wait out. Again, just my $0.02. Honestly, if I took my iPad 2 in and told them it was too warm they would likely replace it (they told me they would do whatever I needed to be happy) but it's just not yellow to me.. IMO it's screen temp variation by manufacturer. If it was yellow-yellow I would be back at the Apple Store.
You're right. Warm and Cool are terms that some TV manufactures use. You might even see it in the computer monitor you are looking at right now.
I used to be in the camp that if a monitor or TV I was looking at wasn't "cool" then it drove me nuts. After learning about what makes a picture look the way it was meant to look I quickly learned that a warmer image is far batter than a cool one. Now if it's distractingly yellow it's a problem.
Well received my replacement overall I was pleasantly surprised....very very very very almost non existent light bleed
however.....dead pixels, dust under screen, and big scratch on back.
Packed it right back up and drove it's arse to a fedex location....buh bye.
Also to confirm the screen was much warmer, could easily get used to that but dead pixels visibly seen on a video....ugh no thx.
I think Im waving my white flag on this one. I give up
however.....dead pixels, dust under screen, and big scratch on back.
Packed it right back up and drove it's arse to a fedex location....buh bye.
Also to confirm the screen was much warmer, could easily get used to that but dead pixels visibly seen on a video....ugh no thx.
I think Im waving my white flag on this one. I give up