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Backlight bleeding
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This is serious problem. My iPad2 is going back today. stuck pixels, light bleed like mad and scratched on the back all from and brand new box. All of you who nay say this are incredibly rude and out of touch. The problems are real and consistent.
I have bleeding on mine and it's on all 4 edges. Can I return it for a full refund?
I think I'll wait it out.
I think I'll wait it out.
just picked up a black, wifi, model. yellow orbs abound!
I have been buying apple products since the release of the first ipod and have never seen an issue like this slip out so dramatically.
They should not have released this product until this obvious problem was ironed out.
What joke on such an otherwise awesome product.
I'm not even going to load my data.
I have been buying apple products since the release of the first ipod and have never seen an issue like this slip out so dramatically.
They should not have released this product until this obvious problem was ironed out.
What joke on such an otherwise awesome product.
I'm not even going to load my data.
I just wanted to update everyone on something (my opinion).
ALL IPAD2s HAVE BACKLIGHT BLEEDING.
I'm on my third iPad now and it has it. An Apple employee told me his has it, everyone here in this thread has it (some worse than others). Every iPad2 has it.
Now, I think I have come to the realization; how in the world can Apple replace or repair all iPad 2s that have been released so far? They cannot, there is no way they will be willing (nor have the supply) to replace all iPad2s w/ backlight bleed w/ iPad2s without backlight bleed.
Unfortunately I think it is something we are going to have to all live with and just deal with. If you don't like it, then get an iPad1 or wait for iPad3 next year. Or maybe iPad2s released 4 months from now won't have backlight bleed and all the early adopters got screwed.
Now that I have realized I have to live with it, it really isn't that bad. I say that because well, I either return it or keep it and enjoy it. And I am thoroughly enjoying my iPad2 and I choose to keep it.
Maybe Apple though will surprise us and fix it for those whom care.
ALL IPAD2s HAVE BACKLIGHT BLEEDING.
I'm on my third iPad now and it has it. An Apple employee told me his has it, everyone here in this thread has it (some worse than others). Every iPad2 has it.
Now, I think I have come to the realization; how in the world can Apple replace or repair all iPad 2s that have been released so far? They cannot, there is no way they will be willing (nor have the supply) to replace all iPad2s w/ backlight bleed w/ iPad2s without backlight bleed.
Unfortunately I think it is something we are going to have to all live with and just deal with. If you don't like it, then get an iPad1 or wait for iPad3 next year. Or maybe iPad2s released 4 months from now won't have backlight bleed and all the early adopters got screwed.
Now that I have realized I have to live with it, it really isn't that bad. I say that because well, I either return it or keep it and enjoy it. And I am thoroughly enjoying my iPad2 and I choose to keep it.
Maybe Apple though will surprise us and fix it for those whom care.
Can't believe how many people are so fixated on this. If you do have the bleeding, you see it what, during the start up screen, and maybe an occasional movie? And even then, you really have to stare at the screen to look for it. The other 98% of the time you are surfing the net, playing a game, reading the news, listening to music, etc., and its not noticeable at all.
Yet, people are up in arms and would rather not have the device at all, then have one that has a little light leakage on a total black screen that you might see 2% of the time during usage. Wow...I'd say that's pretty ridiculous.
Yet, people are up in arms and would rather not have the device at all, then have one that has a little light leakage on a total black screen that you might see 2% of the time during usage. Wow...I'd say that's pretty ridiculous.
I had mine replaced no problems the store was cool we opened the new box and he took it in the back and said the new one has the same issue he will note it on my account bit when I went home I discovered this was worse then the first one I had ..... Also it seems this has a hard time connecting to Wifi once it is connected it's fine. The first one I had did not have that issue. I try a bid today and tomorrow but I am back in the Applestore Friday for a work shop and may yet swap one more time. Or I may just wait until an official announcement was made ? I am clueless at this point. Not like an Antenna you just need an bumper ?
How would you feel about a reasonably sized scratch on the back of your iPad.
One that you would never see unless you turn it over to look at the back, I mean, it's the screen you are going to be looking at all the time.
It would not matter would it?
There is no 'fix'. It's a side effect of the lighting method used for these types of panels. Go to the next level and use a full array, and you can add another $200-$300 to the price, and have a larger form factor. Is that price increase really worth a little light leakage that you see on an edge lit panel 2% of the time? Unreal.
I bought 2 and only open one. The unopen one is for my wifes bday next week but I think I will return both and then pick up 2 Macbook Air. Was only after portability.
Stupid comparison. The scratch is a flaw that exists on that iPad alone. The bleeding is inherent of the edge lit technology used in all iPads. You really should read about what you are buying so you understand it, before plopping down hundreds of dollars for it. Would save you lots of trips back and forth to the Apple store or Best Buy in exchanges, as the end result will always be the same.
MrWillie said:
I'd agree with this, not too many people are cranking it up all the way..but at the same time, they aren't turning it down either, and apple ships it set bright enough for this to be an issue.
I'm debating what to do, my return window is shrinking..I think. I can't remember if best buy is 14 days or 30. I don't believe any iPad is going to be much better though either. Now if apple is saying there is no issue..within spec, etc...well..doesn't sound that it will be fixed any time soon. They are more worried about getting them in hands than refining at this point.
You folks do have me a little nervous about my iPad 2 which will arrive tomorrow afternoon. I'm just hoping if I have bleeding it won't be significant and it won't bother me.
I remember when I first got my 24" LG LCD (with a S-PVA screen) I was nervous about backlight bleed at the corners. Sure enough mine has it. Guess what? I got used to it. The screen is fantastic otherwise and I realize that I won't get perfection with any screen. I ended up ordered a second for some dual monitor goodness, and sure enough it has it too.
Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to downplay the issues some are having here. Though I would suggest perhaps giving it a little time and seeing if it stops bothering you or doesn't impact your use case. It's pretty easy to be bothered by a problem when you're looking for one.
I remember when I first got my 24" LG LCD (with a S-PVA screen) I was nervous about backlight bleed at the corners. Sure enough mine has it. Guess what? I got used to it. The screen is fantastic otherwise and I realize that I won't get perfection with any screen. I ended up ordered a second for some dual monitor goodness, and sure enough it has it too.
Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to downplay the issues some are having here. Though I would suggest perhaps giving it a little time and seeing if it stops bothering you or doesn't impact your use case. It's pretty easy to be bothered by a problem when you're looking for one.
But do you see it in your daily usage at a 'normal' brightness ? If so, I wouldn't worry about it. But if you see it at a normal/ reasonable brightness, then I would return it.
They are cranking it up all the way to 'test' it. Paranoia then sets in. (No the big bad Apple monster is not out to get you. Google on the other hand...)
I've debated about what to do with mine... I can see several spots of light bleed (as in most pics) noticeable at 50% brightness especially in darker rooms but even under normal conditions using black edged iPhone apps. Appt tomorrow at apple genius bar to see what they do/say. Should I remove all my apps and restore as new beforehand? Don't have too much on there yet, playing the wait and see game with light bleed issue-- just don't want to leave my iTunes acct info on there...can I just delete that info?
Okay so mine has pretty bad backlight bleeding. Should I go to an Apple Store and have them document it?
Or can I just e-mail Apple or something to have them do it? Or is that not even really needed ..
I'm fine with waiting a month until this is fixed to exchange, I just don't want to be turned away.
Or can I just e-mail Apple or something to have them do it? Or is that not even really needed ..
I'm fine with waiting a month until this is fixed to exchange, I just don't want to be turned away.
Wow, you must have very low self esteem. You just bought a car and noticed the window is chipped as you are driving it off the lot. In your world, that chipped windshield is totally acceptable because you only notice it when looking at it a certain way, and it doesn't really impact how you drive the car. Am I understanding you correctly?
Or look at it this way.
The date is Feb 2012 and there are many Wanted Ads:
Wanted: iPad2, Have cash waiting to pay good price for an as new model. Not one of the early ones with the bad backlight bleed problem.
Or, your advert:
For sale 32GB iPad2. $400 immaculate condition.
Hi, I'm interested in this, does it have the backlight bleed model of the early ones? If so, I'll offer you $300.
If there is a variation in quality, there is no reason to accept a poor example of the model. If Apple were giving you a discount then fair enough, but you are paying the same price as someone else with a better quality version of the same item.
The date is Feb 2012 and there are many Wanted Ads:
Wanted: iPad2, Have cash waiting to pay good price for an as new model. Not one of the early ones with the bad backlight bleed problem.
Or, your advert:
For sale 32GB iPad2. $400 immaculate condition.
Hi, I'm interested in this, does it have the backlight bleed model of the early ones? If so, I'll offer you $300.
If there is a variation in quality, there is no reason to accept a poor example of the model. If Apple were giving you a discount then fair enough, but you are paying the same price as someone else with a better quality version of the same item.
Perhaps we all need to define what we mean by "light bleed". LCD panels will not be perfectly dark and uniformly black due to the backlight. Most LCD panels that I've seen show a very slight "glow" around the edges. However, what is objectionable about the iPad 2 is that it's not a general glow around the frame - it's actually spots of light that are bleeding due to an improperly mounted or glued LCD panel. Those "spotlights" are definitely not normal.
The people here who know what we are talking about
Are not talking about, as you put it, "very slight glow around the frame"
We accept that's the norm for all LCD displays to some extent.
We'd even accept that you will also see some areas/corners will have a slightly paler glow than others, and the screen will not be 100% uniform in it's "Greyness"
That's fine.
What we're going on about, are the, as you put it "Spotlights" where, due to the design/assembly process the screen if probably being pinched at random points, and making more clearly defined, much more localised areas of brightness.
It's obviously a fault that needs addressing and you can't just say, hey, it's Apple here, well, due to the way we make the thing, it's normal. that's like saying, we assemble the iPad by hand and due to the iPad sitting on a table when being assembled, the back generally will get a bit scratched during the process, so we consider it "Normal" and "ok" and you should just accept it.
No, YOU APPLE should fix the problem. You are the ones causing the fault due to your design/assembly procedure.
Forgive my ignorance, as I have yet to get my own ipad 2, but was this at all an issue on the 1st gen ipads.
My only experience with the family is my iphone 4.
This is making me want to put off getting an ipad 2 for a few months, is that likely to improve things?
My only experience with the family is my iphone 4.
This is making me want to put off getting an ipad 2 for a few months, is that likely to improve things?
Another ridiculous comparison. If the windshields used in that vehicle are known to come with defects like that and I could have read about it before I actually bought the vehicle, then yes, I would deem it acceptable. Now if the entire windshield were cracked, then I'd return for a replacement.
Again, you are not getting the point. The information is out there on edge lit LCD screens and there pros and cons. You simply have to research it and find out. Sounds reasonable to understand what you are purchasing before actually buying it right?