The iPad is not a side lit led. Even if it were, the so call bleeding would be uniform. This is clearly a pinching issue as it is far from uniform and you can press the bleeding parts of the screen or even twist the device a bit and it changes for better or worse. FYI do not push on your screen or twist your device. I was compfortable with the little pressure I applied. these things are so thin they had to pack them togehter tightly especially around the edges. Apple probably never thought of testing this with a black screen in a dark room. They will not make this public because everyone will look for this and try to replace their iPad. I do believe they will make it right for those of us that are not happy with it. my advice is to wait and when most people report back their replacements are perfect go fo it.
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Correction, all iPads have some level backlight bleed.....My IPad "1" actually had worse backlight bleed than my iPad 2.
The people here who know what we are talking about
Are not talking about, as you put it, "very slight glow around the frame"
We accept that's the norm for all LCD displays to some extent.
We'd even accept that you will also see some areas/corners will have a slightly paler glow than others, and the screen will not be 100% uniform in it's "Greyness"
That's fine.
What we're going on about, are the, as you put it "Spotlights" where, due to the design/assembly process the screen if probably being pinched at random points, and making more clearly defined, much more localised areas of brightness.
It's obviously a fault that needs addressing and you can't just say, hey, it's Apple here, well, due to the way we make the thing, it's normal. that's like saying, we assemble the iPad by hand and due to the iPad sitting on a table when being assembled, the back generally will get a bit scratched during the process, so we consider it "Normal" and "ok" and you should just accept it.
No, YOU APPLE should fix the problem. You are the ones causing the fault due to your design/assembly procedure.
This. Replaced my 1st today, this one's FAR worse. Another replacement has been ordered.
Believe me OCD or not I want a good one but most of the cherries are rotten. I'm waiting until Apple fixes the process before I cherry pick again.
Ok, well my backlight bleed was visible the minute I powered on the unit to sync it with my iMac. It was set at default brightness level which is 50%. I wouldn't ever bump the brightness up to 100% unless the conditions I was using it in required that. Normally, I found 50% to be the best overall level of brightness with minimum battery drain.
Most people found this problem the same way I did. I'm sure most that use their iPad for viewing movies at night would have eventually found it. This reminds me of the clouds (mura) issue on a Sony Bravia TV I had. God what a nightmare that was! At least this is an easy item to exchange; not like lugging a 50" TV around!
I found it distracting when watching a movie. I returned it and will wait it out. I love Apple. I have an iMac, MacBook, Mac Book Pro, iPhone 4 and 2 iPads. I am just kind of tired of going through the whole early adopter pains. I need to be more patient with these things.
I'll keep monitoring this thread until it seems like the issue has been resolved.
I'll keep monitoring this thread until it seems like the issue has been resolved.
Yeah but they keep redesigning these things every year so pretty much, everybody is an early adopter.
I think if u have the lighting all around the sides, exchange it, if it's a little on the bottom forget it, if watching movies and reading books doesn't effect it, then just go with it. Nothing is perfect, I'm keeping mine simply because with my luck the small light on the bottom in the pitch black dark is not really noticeable. I think it's improved over the past few days. If u do exchange, wait till the craziness that is iPad 2 is over
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Peace and love
I apologize if this has been asked before...
My closest Apple store is 1.5 hours away. If I wanted to get a replacement for this issue and contacted Apple via phone (or online if available), how does that process work? Would I have to send them the iPad back first? Also, if the new one is as bad or worse, would I be able to request another one, and how many times could I do it before they shut me down (assuming all the replacements are unacceptable)?
My closest Apple store is 1.5 hours away. If I wanted to get a replacement for this issue and contacted Apple via phone (or online if available), how does that process work? Would I have to send them the iPad back first? Also, if the new one is as bad or worse, would I be able to request another one, and how many times could I do it before they shut me down (assuming all the replacements are unacceptable)?
Ipad 2 screen viewing angle is better
Wow. I think what a lot of people are seeing is due to the increased brightness of the ipad 2 screen. I would gauge it as 30-50% brighter overall at 100% setting and far wider viewing angle. Here's my ipad 1:
And here's ipad 2 paused at the exact same spot and same angle:
Proof that the viewing angle is superior. So, my guess is that the "bleed" issue is due to an engineering trade-off to get better brightness/viewing angle.
Wow. I think what a lot of people are seeing is due to the increased brightness of the ipad 2 screen. I would gauge it as 30-50% brighter overall at 100% setting and far wider viewing angle. Here's my ipad 1:
And here's ipad 2 paused at the exact same spot and same angle:
Proof that the viewing angle is superior. So, my guess is that the "bleed" issue is due to an engineering trade-off to get better brightness/viewing angle.
rotflmao!!!!
This is so pathetic, I actually laughed. You can see it at the minimum brightness, you can really see it at 30% (in the light of day!!!) and at 50% and above, apple takes the blue ribbon for producing the biggest joke of a defect I have ever seen in a assumed quality product. I have a genius appt. tomorrow, could it possibly get any worse? This is an untouched photo btw.
This is so pathetic, I actually laughed. You can see it at the minimum brightness, you can really see it at 30% (in the light of day!!!) and at 50% and above, apple takes the blue ribbon for producing the biggest joke of a defect I have ever seen in a assumed quality product. I have a genius appt. tomorrow, could it possibly get any worse? This is an untouched photo btw.
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Wow. I think what a lot of people are seeing is due to the increased brightness of the ipad 2 screen. I would gauge it as 30-50% brighter overall at 100% setting and far wider viewing angle. Here's my ipad 1:
And here's ipad 2 paused at the exact same spot and same angle:
Proof that the viewing angle is superior. So, my guess is that the "bleed" issue is due to an engineering trade-off to get better brightness/viewing angle.
That's impressive. I'd somewhat gladly take the bleed if that's the sort of trade-off I'm getting.
I don't ever crank my brightness up to 100% unless I'm in a bright environment. Other than that, I usually run my brightness at 50%. It's bright enough at that level and it doesn't drain the battery as much. However, even at 50% and under normal conditions, I still see the backlight bleed on mine.
Yes this my problem too! I see it below 50%. Watching Netflix on the road was a reason for the iPad for me and it looks like crap in a dark room.
Brightness was @ 100 in this shot, no long exposure, just iphone 4. I'm thinking this could be the worst as well... it is hilarious in person.
It was bought on launch day, but I just received it.
My favorite is the giant sun shining on the right, not to be upstaged by the smaller moon waiting in the wings on the bottom... and lets not leave out the little stars everywhere else. lol bravo apple.
Not on this planet
I am impressed that Apple upped the capabilities of the iPad2, all the while keeping the price the same.
I am less than impressed that they apparently forsook quality control on the iPad2, and assigned that chore to their customers.
Something began to make sense when learning of the release of the Blackberry PlayBook, with Samsung also announcing introduction of its Galaxy Tab tablet. From a marketing standpoint, and also to retain predominance in the tablet market, Apple had to get a new offering out as soon as possible. Probably also the same reason why going international as soon as possible, but two days from now.
But as much as I like Apple, you would not catch me buying an iPad2 until these serious problems are sorted out; and if I ever did, then directly from an Apple store, with the expectation of possibly having to sort through any number to get satisfaction on the spot.
How is any customer of Apple supposed to feel when going to such trouble to secure a new iPad2, and then often suffering disappointment in quality issues that should have been resolved at the factory? Particularly if told things like such imperfections are 'within spec'? Not for my money, or having to put up with!
One can only speculate, but little reason to believe this policy of using customers for quality control will but continue for now, with all the more anxious guinea pigs lining up for the dubious honor across this planet soon.
Seems like bad karma to me.
I am impressed that Apple upped the capabilities of the iPad2, all the while keeping the price the same.
I am less than impressed that they apparently forsook quality control on the iPad2, and assigned that chore to their customers.
Something began to make sense when learning of the release of the Blackberry PlayBook, with Samsung also announcing introduction of its Galaxy Tab tablet. From a marketing standpoint, and also to retain predominance in the tablet market, Apple had to get a new offering out as soon as possible. Probably also the same reason why going international as soon as possible, but two days from now.
But as much as I like Apple, you would not catch me buying an iPad2 until these serious problems are sorted out; and if I ever did, then directly from an Apple store, with the expectation of possibly having to sort through any number to get satisfaction on the spot.
How is any customer of Apple supposed to feel when going to such trouble to secure a new iPad2, and then often suffering disappointment in quality issues that should have been resolved at the factory? Particularly if told things like such imperfections are 'within spec'? Not for my money, or having to put up with!
One can only speculate, but little reason to believe this policy of using customers for quality control will but continue for now, with all the more anxious guinea pigs lining up for the dubious honor across this planet soon.
Seems like bad karma to me.
---Well there we go... the dreaded words "within spec". We're going to be hearing that a lot from now on so if you're not happy I'd get a FULL REFUND (and tell them why so they know about the importance of the issue) and then try again in a month or two.
I'd be scared to "live with it" if it really bothers you and find out later that they won't replace it. It is, after all... "within spec" (shudder)
Really? Then please inform of what kind of panel is used. There are only a couple of different types, and edge lit allows for a slim form factor, where the lighting is fixed to certain positions around the edge of the panel, which are clearly visible in many cases with light bleed. You can squeeze any LED panel and it will react the way that you point out. And light bleed would not be uniform, as it is impossible to assemble every iPad in the exact same manner.
This issue has existed with the first rendition of the iPad. So how long exactly do you think it will take Apple to implement a 'fix'? The only fix is to use a different type of panel which you won't see due to wanting the device to be slim and having a lower cost.
LOL...go ahead and await that 'perfect' panel. You'll never have an iPad.
For those that keep talking about waiting for Apple to fix this issue, do you a tuqlly believe that the "fix" will come before the iPad 3?
---This is ridiculous. So a potential customer should have researched "edge-lit LCDs" and then braced himself to accept glowing light orbs around the edge? Preposterous.
Look the people here WANT to keep their iPad's... obviously very badly. They understand a small even glow may be at the edge of the screen but don't want to accept blotches all over the edges.
Obviously perfection in this product is not obtainable but the worst of the bunch should go back... and we've seen some doozies over here ;-)
The bleeding varies from iPad to iPad. Some have a couple of spots on each side. Some have it worse then others. I will get a good one soon and when I do I will post a photo. All the lcds are good it's the way they are glued and pinched together. Yes some of the older HD TV lcds are edge lit and some of the higher end models are backlit but all of the MacBooks, iPhones, iPads are all backlit led.
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---I think unless they have found a more reliable way to glue the thing together it will be the exact same product.
I'm hoping they will quietly "tweak" the process in the future to help minimize this problem as they do seem aware of it but who knows... if it costs more to do or is just not feasible in this form factor this may be as good as it gets :-\