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Batterygate??

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Everything on except bluetooth and push. AutoBrightness on and set to about 40% or lower. Email set to fetch every 30. This is a days worth of playing a few games (2D and 3D), plenty of iMessaging, Facebooking, web browsing, a few minutes of Siri use. I was in airplane mode during a class for about 1.5 hours and left it unplugged overnight.

I also noticed that in the lower level of my University, the phone switched to the Edge network. So why, again, don't we have this option anymore? It's clearly capable.
 
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Would like people's advice on the following useage:

Down to 70%

1hr54 Useage

6hr23 Standby

Facebook, Twitter, light browsing over 3g, afew imessages

Good or bad?
 
100%

So, I continue to have issues now with 5.0.1 (whereas I thought things were pretty good for me at least with 5.0) , but one of the odd things is that now when I take the phone off the charge in about five minutes it will start to tick down to 99% and go down but previously on 5.0, I could take if off the charge even USE it and more than 1 hour later it would show 100% still.

Why would THAT be?
 
So I spoke to the tech guy today and he is sending the problem upwards. During the last few days I've taken a few screenshots of my battery that I sent to Apple. As I've said before I get between 20 and 24hrs out of my phone with very light usage, I almost never use 3G. Most of my use is listening to music, surfing on wifi and checking settings/viewing photos. A few phonecalls and a few mails/messages. I have very conservative settings, no push, very few notifications, no reminders, no bluetooth etc.

I have only done full charge cycles since I got the phone. Use untill dead, then charge to 100%.


The following picture is from tuesday, I used the phone close to my normal use. not heavy using at all. Maybe 5 mins of 3G in there, rest is prob 50% wifi suring and rest music/browsing photos/settings apps.
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My point has always been that usage does not really convey the problems with the battery as it is in standby-mode that the real killer is. To prove my point I decided that after charging my phone on tuesday I would barely use it untill talking to the tech guy today. So after unplugging it from the charger around 20.00 on tuesday I took this picture on wednesday around 10.00.
Barely touched the phone and it has dropped 61% in battery overnight.
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Then took this picture just now after talking to the tech guy for alittlewhile and his diagnosticstool telling him about 4hrs usage and 23 hrs standby:
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I have gotten my standby time up to around a day by almost not using it at all. Most of those 1hr39mins was in settings/photos and making one or two 1min calls (present call excluded ofc). No surfing, two mail sent.

I have now decided to try to reformat/reset settings and without installing or touching any settings see if I can "fix" my phone. Will report back if it works in any way. Also have a friend getting a 4S phone soon, if he does not have the problem I might try to reset my phone to his backup and see if it fixes it.
 
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tivoboy said:
So, I continue to have issues now with 5.0.1 (whereas I thought things were pretty good for me at least with 5.0) , but one of the odd things is that now when I take the phone off the charge in about five minutes it will start to tick down to 99% and go down but previously on 5.0, I could take if off the charge even USE it and more than 1 hour later it would show 100% still.

Why would THAT be?
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Because the phone clearly has problems that even apple in their 18mos of development in throwing an iPad 2 chip in a iphone 4 didn't identify when they developed and implemented iOS5 and it's 200 features, icloud, and siri. Then rushed out a patch that did jack crap and in some cases made it worse. My guess is there is multiple things that can cause the battery issues and they don't fully understand what they are. Just like some are wondering where their data plans are going when the phone just sits. You'd think a company that pushes out one device every year and a half would be able to iron these things out in that time, apparently not. I haven't even bothered using my 4s in the last week.
 
This is my, with service locations on, push on. Pretty good I think. It can go up to 3 days with this usage.

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I wish people would stop thinking 10 hours of standby but only touching the phone for 30 minutes is a battery improvement. It's not. It's a smartphone, not a paperweight.
 
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tivoboy said:
So, I continue to have issues now with 5.0.1 (whereas I thought things were pretty good for me at least with 5.0) , but one of the odd things is that now when I take the phone off the charge in about five minutes it will start to tick down to 99% and go down but previously on 5.0, I could take if off the charge even USE it and more than 1 hour later it would show 100% still.

Why would THAT be?
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here is a quick IMPORTANT update

So, here is a quick update from today. Recall my move to 5.0.1 was met with the echo problem AND introduce worse battery life.

Well, I remembered ONE thing I did when I moved to 5.0.1

I HAD most items turned off in location services and had SOME things off in the notifications area.
Previously I had turned off the STOCKS app in the notification center AND I had turned off the LOCAL WEATHER (you can actually keep the regular weather in the notification app, it will simply display just the tile that the regular weather app is on)

But, when I upgraded to 5.0.1, I did ONE other thing. I turned back ON the weather widget in the notification center to show the weather app, NOT the "local" tile (since I sort of liked the easy access)

Well, this morning I remembered that little point and I turned off the weather widget in the notification center and you know what. For the past seven hours the phone has lost 4% of the battery, right back to the .05% per hour that it was losing BEFORE the 5.0.1 update

So, here's the question. How many people have the weather widget turned on in the notification center, regardless of whether it is on local or weather tile.?
 
So did 5.0.1. work for ANYONE? I'm still on 5.0 but the battery life is terrible (between 4-5 hours usage, 8 hours standby), so if 5.0.1 worked for anyone, I might just give it a try (was holding out for jailbreak), but if it didn't work for anyone, then I'm not going to try it.
 
NoHo said:
So did 5.0.1. work for ANYONE? I'm still on 5.0 but the battery life is terrible (between 4-5 hours usage, 8 hours standby), so if 5.0.1 worked for anyone, I might just give it a try (was holding out for jailbreak), but if it didn't work for anyone, then I'm not going to try it.
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Heard a few people saying it made things better, but majority seems to be same or worse. Rumors of 5.0.2 around the corner so maybe hold on for that, esp since you seem to be getting alot of use out of it.
 
Antoni Nygaard said:
This is mine on 5.0.1
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It's really hard to know when you don't say what you used in the use time. Say it was wifi. Tht would mean apples quoted 9hrs so at a guess being generous give you 10% drop an hour 50% drop for your 5 hrs useage. 2 days standby would be 48 hrs at what would appear 1% drop per hour to total up the 100 % battery drain which would all mean half of apples quoted specs. If running on spec you'd have 25% battery left but you haven't. Maybe you used 3G which according to apple 6hrs total battery drain which would mean your doing better maybe? **** the maths is difficult for me But I think I got them right ��

The trouble I see with using the phone is it appears to mask the problem. Find out what your using on standby. It should be 0.5% per hour. So 1% over a two hour period and so on. Then if it's ok try surfing on 3G or wifi or use music and see if your usage matches apple specs but I think once you have the standby time in spec everything else will be. It just seems some can mask the drain by using it. Hope that makes sense.
 
Zxxv said:
It's really hard to know when you don't say what you used in the use time. Say it was wifi. Tht would mean apples quoted 9hrs so at a guess being generous give you 10% drop an hour 50% drop for your 5 hrs useage. 2 days standby would be 48 hrs at what would appear 1% drop per hour to total up the 100 % battery drain which would all mean half of apples quoted specs. If running on spec you'd have 25% battery left but you haven't. Maybe you used 3G which according to apple 6hrs total battery drain which would mean your doing better maybe? **** the maths is difficult for me But I think I got them right ��

The trouble I see with using the phone is it appears to mask the problem. Find out what your using on standby. It should be 0.5% per hour. So 1% over a two hour period and so on. Then if it's ok try surfing on 3G or wifi or use music and see if your usage matches apple specs but I think once you have the standby time in spec everything else will be. It just seems some can mask the drain by using it. Hope that makes sense.
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I have been on 3G, wifi, youtube, some phone calls, text message, Facebook and twitter.
 
tivoboy said:
here is a quick IMPORTANT update

So, here is a quick update from today. Recall my move to 5.0.1 was met with the echo problem AND introduce worse battery life.

Well, I remembered ONE thing I did when I moved to 5.0.1

I HAD most items turned off in location services and had SOME things off in the notifications area.
Previously I had turned off the STOCKS app in the notification center AND I had turned off the LOCAL WEATHER (you can actually keep the regular weather in the notification app, it will simply display just the tile that the regular weather app is on)

But, when I upgraded to 5.0.1, I did ONE other thing. I turned back ON the weather widget in the notification center to show the weather app, NOT the "local" tile (since I sort of liked the easy access)

Well, this morning I remembered that little point and I turned off the weather widget in the notification center and you know what. For the past seven hours the phone has lost 4% of the battery, right back to the .05% per hour that it was losing BEFORE the 5.0.1 update

So, here's the question. How many people have the weather widget turned on in the notification center, regardless of whether it is on local or weather tile.?
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Does the weather widget hurt battery life then?
 
Here is mine. It doesn't happen when I'm on wifi but 3g kills it fast.
 

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Antoni Nygaard said:
I have been on 3G, wifi, youtube, some phone calls, text message, Facebook and twitter.
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Then you could be on spec. 3G only give 6 hrs so your useage where I gave you a generous 10% drain per hour pretending you were on wifi your actual drain on the Battery would be higher so your standby drain would be lower and it could be ok but it's complicated maths from my end. Easiest way to check is standby time, then if it's ok check a known usage spec maybe music wifi or 3G which ever gives you the easiest to work with figure. if that's ok sit back and enjoy your phone and never think about it again.
 
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there was initially, weeks ago speculation that the weather widget might be polling for weather data very often and draining battery. Similar to the stocks widget.
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might switch it off to see if it matters

it's odd

i normally lose 4% overnight but the past two nights it has lost 8% overnight. All settings are the same apart from this gagdet game is in my notification center and was set to on...anybopdy think this is why i've lost more %?
 
Shut everthing down from the task bar last night and over night 8hr drain was 3%. I think the drain I had the night before where it went upto 8% over 8hrs was due to an app. It could have been me opting to send reports back to apple but I reckon it's an app. I'll continue to test but I think mines all ok. First iPhone so fresh set up. I don't think apple have masked the standby drain at the early stage (fix the % countdown) but i would have to leave my phone for 200hrs to check its cosher all the way. Be all too easy to cover it up with people only testing to a few hours but the fallout on that would be a competitors dream and I only see apple being happy with being number 1.

Imagine news story's saying apple number 3 software operating system in the world. I can't see apple even thinking that let alone saying it.

I do think some have maybe a problem with wifi and 3G becuAse every now and then ios says I'm not connected to cellular data. Of course I'm not I'm on wifi And cell data is off, but the wifi has decided not to be connected even though checking it shows it is on. What this means is if you have 3G on and connected to wifi iOS is most likely switching to that when it should stay on wifi and result is you'd get worse battery drain because apple specs 6hr on 3G and 9hr wifi. I'm
Only seeing the pop up message because 3G is off. it sometimes appears when I go to write an email. Think when I goto share webpage or YouTube vid etc

Well I'm not an apple tech but I think it's software.

I also have the weathe widget on. Doesn't appear to effect drain.
 
Zxxv said:
Shut everthing down from the task bar last night and over night 8hr drain was 3%. I think the drain I had the night before where it went upto 8% over 8hrs was due to an app. It could have been me opting to send reports back to apple but I reckon it's an app. I'll continue to test but I think mines all ok. First iPhone so fresh set up. I don't think apple have masked the standby drain at the early stage (fix the % countdown) but i would have to leave my phone for 200hrs to check its cosher all the way. Be all too easy to cover it up with people only testing to a few hours but the fallout on that would be a competitors dream and I only see apple being happy with being number 1.

Imagine news story's saying apple number 3 software operating system in the world. I can't see apple even thinking that let alone saying it.

I do think some have maybe a problem with wifi and 3G becuAse every now and then ios says I'm not connected to cellular data. Of course I'm not I'm on wifi And cell data is off, but the wifi has decided not to be connected even though checking it shows it is on. What this means is if you have 3G on and connected to wifi iOS is most likely switching to that when it should stay on wifi and result is you'd get worse battery drain because apple specs 6hr on 3G and 9hr wifi. I'm
Only seeing the pop up message because 3G is off. it sometimes appears when I go to write an email. Think when I goto share webpage or YouTube vid etc

Well I'm not an apple tech but I think it's software.

I also have the weathe widget on. Doesn't appear to effect drain.
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Think that must be the reason for mine

I downloaded go go gadget and never realised it was in my notification center...does that affect battery life even if you don't get any notifications from that app?
 
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