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Batterygate??

Guys, need your help. Not su how to judge my gf usage. i have switched plenty of notification etc off. She charged it last night, got up about 14 hours ago. Phone was in a locker for about 8 hours and my gf has used the phone quite a bit.

Time since last full charge:
Usage: 2 hours 25 min
Standby: 13 hours 54 mins.

Fully charged to 100% and now sitting at 56% about 15 hours after charging.

Thanks guys.
 
AustinSTI said:
Actually you logged an hour of additional usage so the delta is about what should be expected.
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Well. if you think an hour extra usage will drop from 95% to 67% is expected. Then have fun with you 4S.

My iphone 4 has 55 min usage to 1 hour 57 min usage is just going from 95% to 87%.
 
update

So, I went into the Location Service / System services, and DID turn off the cell network search, left traffic on but all other location are set to off.

I was at 74%, have now downloaded about eight app updates, that was nearly 2 hours ago and I am STILL AT 74%..

go figure.

okay, now it is 73%, but that is 1% over the last 90 minutes
 
Guys, me again...started my pc so I can upload pictures properly.

Took of all email accounts, hard reset (both buttons) and started the lap test:

53-52%= 6 mins 2 sec :)
52-51%= 7 mins 42 sec :eek:
51-50%= 6 mins 43 sec :rolleyes:

A bit up and down to me...

I will set up both email adresses and see what happens, but first impression is ok to me, isnt it?

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I have this suspicion the cell radio (at least on AT&T) is largely responsible for drainage, especially in areas of weak coverage.

My wife's phone is a bone stock DFU install of iOS 5. She has exactly two apps on it, FB and 1Password. FB is set to send some push notifications & wifi is on and connected to an access point. Otherwise all settings are stock -- no email accounts, no calendars, no iCloud. Nada. She hasn't been explicitly using the phone all day so there's only 10 mins of usage on it currently (probably from notifications).

This morning the phone was dropping about 2% per hour -- not horrific but not fantastic. Her cell coverage was variable since she was at various locations w/ varying degrees of coverage.

For the past few hours she's been in the office which is massive cell signal dead spot. The battery drainage has accelerated to 1% per 12 minutes (2% per 24m) or almost 3x faster than it was this morning.

On my way to work this morning I used my 4S for music and sending a bunch of texts with Siri. I was driving -- my cell coverage was variable but very good for most of the trip. The battery indicator didn't move. Upon arriving at work -- yet another cell void (1 to 2 bars at most) -- the phone dropped almost 6% in an hour without me using it.

We're now trying yet another experiment: phones in Airplane mode but with Wifi on. See where they stand in a few hours.
 
DOes "cell network search" help find cell towers better then with it off. i wonder what the real advantage is?
 
tivoboy said:
So, I went into the Location Service / System services, and DID turn off the cell network search, left traffic on but all other location are set to off.

I was at 74%, have now downloaded about eight app updates, that was nearly 2 hours ago and I am STILL AT 74%..

go figure.

okay, now it is 73%, but that is 1% over the last 90 minutes
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just don't wander into an edge area...you won't get back on 3G without network search turned on.
 
I find it kind of disappointing that people have to scramble around and try to find out which services they have to sacrifice in order to get a decent battery life.

I thought Apple + iPhone was all about the overall "user experience" and that it was all supposed to "just work". :confused:

Reading some of the posts on this thread makes me want to hang on the my 3GS until the new iPhone comes out...or maybe even go Nexus. :eek:
 
richard371 said:
DOes "cell network search" help find cell towers better then with it off. i wonder what the real advantage is?
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Cell Network Search looks for nearby cellular towers to aid in determining your location. This speeds up GPS location.

With the rough location provided by cell tower triangulation the iPad can download the GPS satellite data, which it would normally take a few minutes from the satellites themselves, in a few seconds. In the absence of good GPS reception the iPhone can still give you a rough approximation of where you are, letting most apps that need location to work to some degree. This is usually a bit more accurate than the wi-fi location method.
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Found via Uncle Google ;) (EDIT: granted that's in the context of iPad but presumably same functionality on iPhone)
 
If it's any consolation, I will ALWAYS be doing this when in WIFI Range.

General > Network > Cellular Data > OFF

With this off and in Wifi range, I received a good bit of emails and brief phone calls, along with playing with settings. I lost 13% of my battery with 1:00 hour of usage and 6:02 hours of standby.

I then put the Cellular Data > ON. HUGE change. I am now at 1:13 usage and 6:35 standby and lost 7% of my battery.

Thats losing roughly half the amount of battery with very minimal usage.
 
So, What Are Any Of Going to Do About This?

I am experiencing similar battery results as many here.

Troubleshooting, doing laptimes and playing with settings is all very well and good but ultimately, what are you going to do about a phone that doesn't meet your expectations?

Have any of you returned the phone and experienced a *different* result?

or

Have any of asked for a refund?

or

Are you going to continue to "wait and see"?

How long is the window of opportunity to get a refund and/or exchange the device?
 
mcdj said:
just don't wander into an edge area...you won't get back on 3G without network search turned on.
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I don't think it has anything to do with this.

Enrico said:
I thought that was only related to the location tracking via cell towers?
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metsjetsfan said:
It sends your data to apple for crowd sourcing and helps with location based reminders like geofence
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I think metsjetsfan has it correct. It has to do with updating Apple's database of cell tower sites.
 
Grettman said:
I am experiencing similar battery results as many here.

Troubleshooting, doing laptimes and playing with settings is all very well and good but ultimately, what are you going to do about a phone that doesn't meet your expectations?

Have any of you returned the phone and experienced a *different* result?

or

Have any of asked for a refund?

or

Are you going to continue to "wait and see"?

How long is the window of opportunity to get a refund and/or exchange the device?
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I just reactivated my 4. The 4s is a sweet phone! I will miss Siri, the camera upgrade, and the speed but in the end it really isn't that much different from my 4 in my own experiences. However the current battery issue bothers me. I realize a duel core processor is going to draw additional power but right now it's too much for me. Besides, I would regret if in another 12 months I miss out on upgrading to the mythical iPhone 5. Worst case would be to buy another 4s down the line.
 
Iphone 4S Battery

Question...

I have waited to buy the iphone 4S for some time now, as i didnt buy the 4 due to so many people mentioning about the antenna problems. And at the time it was more of a gadget i'd like to have than actually need. But now my old phone is totally messed up, and thought now i'll get the 4S. (This will be my first Iphone so please understand my query as 600-700 GBP without a contract is a lot for a phone). I thought i'll give it a week or two just to see if there were any problems like the last release and a fair amount of people mention the battery issue, and a fair amount of people also say it is not that bad just turn off some of the features. As an overall product, with average use of a multitude of features, obviously not using it all day as i have to work, but a fair usage, how is the battery performance? Will it last the day? I charge my phone every evening before i go to bed, but it has to at least last the day otherwise i'll feel robbed.

Appreciate reply's on your experience. :)
 
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Try going to settings> general> reset> reset all settings
Then only turn on battery percentage and test out the standby

Should fix standby
Until you mess with the death setting again which I have no idea what triggers it
 
daddycool89 said:
Question...

I have waited to buy the iphone 4S for some time now, as i didnt buy the 4 due to so many people mentioning about the antenna problems. And at the time it was more of a gadget i'd like to have than actually need. But now my old phone is totally messed up, and thought now i'll get the 4S. (This will be my first Iphone so please understand my query as 600-700 GBP without a contract is a lot for a phone). I thought i'll give it a week or two just to see if there were any problems like the last release and a fair amount of people mention the battery issue, and a fair amount of people also say it is not that bad just turn off some of the features. As an overall product, with average use of a multitude of features, obviously not using it all day as i have to work, but a fair usage, how is the battery performance? Will it last the day? I charge my phone every evening before i go to bed, but it has to at least last the day otherwise i'll feel robbed.

Appreciate reply's on your experience. :)
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My wife's response: Yes, and I have battery left at the end of the day! OMG ITS GREAT!

My response: No. It'll be dead before 4pm, if you are lucky. Keep that charger cable within arms reach!

Seriously, it appears that the battery issue is ALL over the place. Some on either extreme, some in the middle. And worst of all, we (as the community) have NO idea why.
 
daddycool89 said:
how is the battery performance? Will it last the day? I charge my phone every evening before i go to bed, but it has to at least last the day otherwise i'll feel robbed.
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Speaking for myself, I've not encountered any battery issues. I get as much usage out of my 4S as I did on my iphone 4. I charge it overnight and take it off the charger in the morning. Every so often if I'm really heavily using it I might pop it on a charger during the day, but that is the rare exception due to above usual usage.

I'd actually left it off charge last night and this morning it showed 49% battery with 3 hours 35 minutes usage and 19 hours 25 minutes standby. Recharged and it's at 99% showing 15 minutes usage, 1 hour 19 minutes standby.

I suspect the majority of people aren't having significant issues, but clearly there are a good number of people who are having problems. My guess is some of those may be individually faulty hardware (would be a warranty fix), or there may be issues with iOS5 and/or some apps (which will presumably be fixed with forthcoming updates).

If you're not in a hurry it might be worthwhile to give it a couple more weeks to see how it shakes out; or if you are in a hurry I'd say go for it and be aware of the return policies in case it doesn't work as you expect.
 
Had to post about my situation. My new 4S seems to be draining a bit too quickly compared to my jailbroken 4.

At work I would get down to maybe 70%-80% by lunch time with the 4.
Now the 4S was down to like 50%. Now it's down to roughly 26%.

This was with all normal usage. I'm not using my 4S more (at work) than my 4. At least today I wasn't.

I've tried every trick in this thread and this website someone else posted. (http://cydiahelp.com/ios-5-battery-drain-problem-heres-some-tips-to-fix-this/

Anyways, the only trick I have left is to reset to factory and start fresh. I'm hoping this will fix the problem, because this doesn't seem right.

Also, I'm close to considering getting one of those extended battery cases... but really don't care for all the extra bulk and the cost
 
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7timethecrystal said:
My wife's response: Yes, and I have battery left at the end of the day! OMG ITS GREAT!

My response: No. It'll be dead before 4pm, if you are lucky. Keep that charger cable within arms reach!

Seriously, it appears that the battery issue is ALL over the place. Some on either extreme, some in the middle. And worst of all, we (as the community) have NO idea why.
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Far to many variable configurations to make sensible comparisons.

We need a few phones with a baseline iOS config, preferably in airplane mode since we all have varying cell and wifi coverage. If we can achieve very similar -- and SLOW -- battery drainage rates that way, at least we can rule out the batteries!
 
monkeytalk said:
Elanmike - thanks for this tip. Like everyone else, I've suffered from poor battery life on my first day of actively using the 4s. I did notice the strange flickering coming from my Exchange Calendar in the Notifications Center - hopefully turning this off will slow down the battery drain.
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For all those with Exchange accounts and experiencing poor battery life, I'm pretty sure that turning off "Notifications Center" for Calendar will fix things if you have an Exchange calendar on your iPhone 4S. I turned it off this morning, and am at 84% with 1 hr usage and 4.5 hrs standby - much better than where I was at yesterday.
 
Took my release day 4S in to my local Apple store today, due to really poor battery life (1% loss every minute) and they swapped it over straight away, no questions asked for a brand new retail boxed unit :D
 
Curiously, I used my phone with stock settings for a couple of days and did not notice problems.

Then I restored it from a 3GS backup. I suspect that is when the problems started.
 
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