Batterygate??

it is a real shame

I know this has been said before but it is a real shame we have all these OUTSTANDING options that to get a decent battery life, and in my case a terrible battery life 3 hours usage at best, we have to turn them off or turn them off and on. It really is a shame.
 
So what is the consensus on setting up as new versus restoring from backup? Is it worth the hassle of resetting and setting up as new?
 
it may or may not help you, but what do you have to lose other than several hours of testing?

backup it up....restore it as NEW, test it...if the performance is the same, then restore it back from your earlier backup....

you have nothing to lose....each phone behaves differently for some reason...again..it may or may not have much difference...

I did mine....same standby mode of 1% loss every 2 hours...

Alonzo84 said:
So what is the consensus on setting up as new versus restoring from backup? Is it worth the hassle of resetting and setting up as new?
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My issue here is not stand by but actual use. I had it on stand by for 13 hours but used for 2 and got 40% left.

When I start using twitter (just to read) or FB I can see % goes down all the time, about 1% every 2-3 minutes which I think is BS! My colleague manages 2 days out of iphone 4 with everyone on, sycn, push, notifications and location.

If they are just fixing the issue of stand by loss, then it is not good enough for me.
 
From what I have read on Dev forums the b2 version of the beta was to fix activation issues. Nonetheless, the beta for sure improves the battery life. I now have done some extensive side by side tests and whatever the issues there has been improvement. Doesn't mean there are not still issues but they have made improvements.

I can post my testing later when I'm home. But I can tell you this. I have been on my phone constantly for an hour on both 3G and wifi. I was listening to music through iTunes match which was downloading songs in the background on 3G. Few calls, browsing, etc. After all that battery is holding strong - relatively. Won't bother posting numbers since without my settings and more concrete usage data it would be meaningless.

I'm much more curious to figure out why people like fesan are having such issues. Absent a bad battery which is possible but unlikely, must be in the apps/settings/corrupt files or maybe cellular related.

Fesan, if you put yourself on wifi, can you do something for 20 mins. Then charge back up and do it again with no wifi. Compare usage results. Do something moderately heavy like watch YouTube videos.
 
sup3r1or said:
When I start using twitter (just to read) or FB I can see % goes down all the time, about 1% every 2-3 minutes which I think is BS!
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To be clear, with your screen on constantly for 3 minutes accessing the web (3g or wifi?) via twitter, that translates into 300 mins or 5 hours before your phone dies. Apple claims up to 6 hours and we know they optimized the crap out of the phone to get that, let alone cell phone testing related to battery life assumes a % of downtime in the activity. Feel free to be upset but that is in line with what they claim. I just did the same test over 3G and got 4 minutes before my % dropped 1pt using the twitter app. My screen brightness is auto and its dead smack in the middle of the slider.
 
sup3r1or said:
My issue here is not stand by but actual use. I had it on stand by for 13 hours but used for 2 and got 40% left.

When I start using twitter (just to read) or FB I can see % goes down all the time, about 1% every 2-3 minutes which I think is BS! My colleague manages 2 days out of iphone 4 with everyone on, sycn, push, notifications and location.

If they are just fixing the issue of stand by loss, then it is not good enough for me.
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Severe battery drainage occurs when the processor is being used, not so much when its sitting in standby. I played a video on both iphone 4S and iphone 4, both running 5.0 and i found that the 4S drains the battery 30% faster than the iphone 4.
 
Best results thus far, Usage included GPS use for 30 minutes, a lot of SIRI inquiries, music, an entire episode of Law & Order: SVU from Netflix, Email, Phone calls.

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iTorment said:
Best results thus far, Usage included GPS use for 30 minutes, a lot of SIRI inquiries, music, an entire episode of Law & Order: SVU from Netflix, Email, Phone calls.

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My god, that's an amazing result. It's twice my usage amount!
Are you running the latest beta?
 
Best results thus far, Usage included GPS use for 30 minutes, a lot of SIRI inquiries, music, an entire episode of Law & Order: SVU from Netflix, Email, Phone calls.
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How long are you charging the battery? when it says 100% are pulling it from the wall charger or are you charging 5hrs then pulling it? how long do you charge it total on one full charge.
 
Never had batterygate but after the 4th charge it got even better

Standby : 9 hours
Usage : 1 hour and 30 minutes. But with 40 minute music playback and around 20 minutes of YouTube.

Now : 84%

I'm pleased.

Oh and with WiFi on all the time
 
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dhy8386 said:
From what I have read on Dev forums the b2 version of the beta was to fix activation issues. Nonetheless, the beta for sure improves the battery life. I now have done some extensive side by side tests and whatever the issues there has been improvement. Doesn't mean there are not still issues but they have made improvements.

I can post my testing later when I'm home. But I can tell you this. I have been on my phone constantly for an hour on both 3G and wifi. I was listening to music through iTunes match which was downloading songs in the background on 3G. Few calls, browsing, etc. After all that battery is holding strong - relatively. Won't bother posting numbers since without my settings and more concrete usage data it would be meaningless.

I'm much more curious to figure out why people like fesan are having such issues. Absent a bad battery which is possible but unlikely, must be in the apps/settings/corrupt files or maybe cellular related.

Fesan, if you put yourself on wifi, can you do something for 20 mins. Then charge back up and do it again with no wifi. Compare usage results. Do something moderately heavy like watch YouTube videos.
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Will get back to you when I got time. Almost ready for another chargecycle now so thath should give us a better idea of the real % loss.

What I can say from previous tests is that with everything turned off (cellular, wifi, notifications, locations etc.) it drained much slower in standby but still too fast (2% an hr). And usage was still as bad as before with 0.5-1% a minute.
 
Damn it:
50 min usage
13h 24min stand by

80% left
Only 3G internet used..

I think this is not good...

Edit:

1h, 29min usage
14, 9min stand by

68% left..

Bad, bad.. It seems I cannot get more than 5h usage...
 
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I get pretty good battery life on iOS 5.0. Brightness is at 50%, Push Notification are on for all my apps, Location Services are on (Setting Time Zone to off did the trick to stop draining), 1 Push E-mail Yahoo account. Used only in WiFi, didn't listen to music at all. I was browsing on Facebook, Twitter, Safari (forums, bla bla), and chatting. I'm jailbroken and running 35 Mobile Substrate addons. The device is running fast (MS addons didn't slow it down), and battery lasts a lot. The battery has a total of 256 recharge cycles. This is an iPhone 4.

While in standby, WiFi was on. I never turn WiFi off when I'm home.
 

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dhy8386 said:
To be clear, with your screen on constantly for 3 minutes accessing the web (3g or wifi?) via twitter, that translates into 300 mins or 5 hours before your phone dies. Apple claims up to 6 hours and we know they optimized the crap out of the phone to get that, let alone cell phone testing related to battery life assumes a % of downtime in the activity. Feel free to be upset but that is in line with what they claim. I just did the same test over 3G and got 4 minutes before my % dropped 1pt using the twitter app. My screen brightness is auto and its dead smack in the middle of the slider.
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Actually to be clear when I called Apple Hardware support, they said 4S SHOULD manage 8 hours of USE! and closer to 10 Hours if it is new! And he said that usage not stand by! And my brightness is at 20% 1/4th of the slider.
 
Kaydin said:
I get pretty good battery life on iOS 5.0. Brightness is at 50%, Push Notification are on for all my apps, Location Services are on (Setting Time Zone to off did the trick to stop draining), 1 Push E-mail Yahoo account. Used only in WiFi, didn't listen to music at all. I was browsing on Facebook, Twitter, Safari (forums, bla bla), and chatting. I'm jailbroken and running 35 Mobile Substrate addons. The device is running fast (MS addons didn't slow it down), and battery lasts a lot. The battery has a total of 256 recharge cycles. This is an iPhone 4.

While in standby, WiFi was on. I never turn WiFi off when I'm home.
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This thread is referring to the iPhone 4s battery issues, not the 4.
 
iTorment said:
Best results thus far, Usage included GPS use for 30 minutes, a lot of SIRI inquiries, music, an entire episode of Law & Order: SVU from Netflix, Email, Phone calls.

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So you actually used your phone all day or what? I am assuming you have some background task bugging out and causing your "usage" to rise in standby
 
How you managed to get that? What optimisations have you done? Are you using WiFi or 3G? What is your screen brightness? Do you have all in your iCloud account enabled?

I get only this:

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Very sad...
 
miragebg said:
How you managed to get that? What optimisations have you done? Are you using WiFi or 3G? What is your screen brightness? Do you have all in your iCloud account enabled?

I get only this:

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Very sad...
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Just backed up from my settings from my 4

Using wifi

Got all my iCloud stuff on, brightness is at 30-40%. location services off for now, email on every now and then, Internet use

I only have lost 4% overnight in over 10 hours in standby
 
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