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Scumbag move.

That's why all early access reviews are shining, carefully worded shillfests. Apple have tech journos by the balls. Either you lick their arse, or you don't get access.
 
Its funny, Apple remove a publication from its list of media outlets for publicising a less than scientific test on its product which show it in a bad light, yet some or most of the people here are suddenly on the side of the media?

Apple make products for people to buy and the media report and create news to sell their publication. Often these stories are written and are less than beneficial to the articles subject, sometimes causing utter misery when facts are misconstrued etc. It just goes to show how fickle people are. If the media support a topic that suits the hatred its readers have for a company then it is fine. At least it demonstrates who supports the tabloid press in many cases and we can make our own judgements on the quality of those particular opinions.
 
I don't see how anyone can remain in denial when so many people are able to bend it. It'd be one thing for one guy to fake a video or tamper with the device for some hits -- it's another matter entirely when many people are able to (including some kids who probably are barely strong enough to fold paper)

Many People??? Who are the "many people"? One chubby dude you see in a YouTube video (which BTW now has almost 50 million hits. I'm sure his wallet his happy for him trolling a company's product) and a couple of kids that went into an Apple store to purposely bend the phones?

I'll bet you couldn't physically show a video of more than 10 people that have bent their phones, and STILL to this day there has been no videos of someone putting their naked iPhone 6 Plus in their tight jeans and bending it from normal use. Don't say "MANY PEOPLE" when you don't post your proof to back up a statement like that.
 
Mmmmmmm

www.oneofthenine.com

30 bent iPhones....in that number is included 5 phones bent purposely in Apple stores an 1 phone bent by Lewis of Unbox Therapy...

30-6=24 possible genuine bends.

24 in 10M gives you a 0.00024% of bent iPhones.

please revise "many" in your sentence....

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If the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would in reality bend in front pockets or back pockets I would be expecting a flood of youtube videos showing exactly that happening.

has anyone seen one of those videos?

the only person testing that was this guy from the BBC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8E9xlGbZaA

I love how the point of 1 of the 9 is to show that Bendgate is a problem with a majority of the bent iPhones being IN STORES after videos have popped up of people purposely bending iPhone 6+. Hahahahahaha, priceless.

It's like 5 people and the rest are stores or people on YT videos who purposely bent them.
 
Mmmmmmm

www.oneofthenine.com

30 bent iPhones....in that number is included 5 phones bent purposely in Apple stores an 1 phone bent by Lewis of Unbox Therapy...

30-6=24 possible genuine bends.

24 in 10M gives you a 0.00024% of bent iPhones.

please revise "many" in your sentence....

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If the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would in reality bend in front pockets or back pockets I would be expecting a flood of youtube videos showing exactly that happening.

has anyone seen one of those videos?

the only person testing that was this guy from the BBC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8E9xlGbZaA

I wouldn't consider 1 of the 9 to be a proper survey. How many of the 10 million owners do you think actually came across that site? I'd be surprised if it was even 100k. And for that matter, how many of the 10 million sold do you think are 6 pluses? And of those, how many are still on back order?

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You want more data?

Try bending 15,000 phones. Consumer Reports used scientific measurements, why does anyone else think that arms and hands, which are subjective can possibly be scientific.

No one is going to do what you suggest, collect more data, other than Apple. The bend videos sacrifice one phone for the sake of collecting advert revenue. They don't care what you think. There's your data.

Consumer reports made scientific measurements, but the results of a study are only good if the study is designed properly. The consumer reports test does not take many scenarios into account. A 3 point test like the one they used is not particularly useful when you have a non uniform object, such as the iPhone. A 4 point test would be much better for approximating the force required to break a non uniform object.
 
"Bendgate" video = Apple banning media outlet

I wouldn't consider 1 of the 9 to be a proper survey. How many of the 10 million owners do you think actually came across that site? I'd be surprised if it was even 100k. And for that matter, how many of the 10 million sold do you think are 6 pluses? And of those, how many are still on back order?


1 of the 9 actually been scouring the Internet for cases. Anything that appears on Twitter, Instagram etc they account it.

Anyway to put in perspective you need 10 thousand cases to make 1% of 10M.

And this 10M is the figure apple released from the first sale week. Since then the iPhone has been sold in rest of Europe etc etc...
 
1 of the 9 actually been scouring the Internet for cases. Anything that appears on Twitter, Instagram etcetera they account it.

Anyway to put in perspective you need 10 thousand cases to make 1% of 10M.

And this 10M is the figure apple released from the first sale week. Since then the iPhone has been sold in rest of Europe etc etc...

I am aware of how to use percentages. 1 of the 9 is hardly a proper survey though. Surveying say... 1000 iPhone 6 plus owners should yield statistically significant data (if the survey is truly a random sample). I realize doing that is easier said than done.

And I'm not sure how Apple calculates sales statistics, but if it includes all online orders rather than shipped devices, many of those phones aren't in hand yet. And I'd be willing to bet the majority of the phones out there are not pluses simply because of the production issues.
 
I am aware of how to use percentages. 1 of the 9 is hardly a proper survey though. Surveying say... 1000 iPhone 6 plus owners should yield statistically significant data (if the survey is truly a random sample). I realize doing that is easier said than done.

And I'm not sure how Apple calculates sales statistics, but if it includes all online orders rather than shipped devices, many of those phones aren't in hand yet. And I'd be willing to bet the majority of the phones out there are not pluses simply because of the production issues.

Half of 1 of 9 website 31 cases are iPhone 6 and half are Plus, so yes using 10 million vs 31 is the correct stat, and 10 million is conservative because Apple is likely sold 10 million more by now since day 5 of sales, its day 14 today
 
I believe it is plausible that they can bend under normal circumstances. Only way to know for sure is to collect more data. See how little force can be used to deform the device in a worst case scenario, and see how much force one can exert on the phone sitting in a pocket. My gut feeling is that the force required in that worst case scenario is quite low - maybe 20-30 lbs, which you can easily exert with your leg without feeling much.

This is where your "logic" completely fails. It isn't some object sitting in a lab somewhere in complete isolation. There are now tens of millions of them all over the world being used by people normally right now. They are being "tested" in real world conditions every second of every day since launch on the 19th of last month. So, if it only took 20-30 pounds of force to deform the case don't you think we'd be seeing many dozens if not many hundreds of cases (at least) of bent phone reports right here on the board? And if not here elsewhere on the Web? Of course we would! So, where are all these bent phones?

And THAT is the answer you're looking for.
 
So... looks like they got the Gizmodo treatment.

R.I.P. Computer Bild

LULZ.. yup.. RIP.. haha. they are DONE.

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Btw: im glad apple is going in the offensive.. did apple ban unbox therapy yet? LULZ
 
The banning of news source over this is ridiculous and makes it look like Apple has something to hide. Some of you people are ridiculous for defending Apple. And surf monkey, think about this. The average person weights over 150 lbs. They can easily be squeezing a phone and not know it when even Consumer Report shows that the iphone 6 and iphone 6+ are much weaker than the previous gen. Add in the fact that a pocket is not always going to be applying force directly to the center, then it would be concerning. Its NOT much ado about nothing.
 
The banning of news source over this is ridiculous and makes it look like Apple has something to hide. Some of you people are ridiculous for defending Apple. And surf monkey, think about this. The average person weights over 150 lbs. They can easily be squeezing a phone and not know it when even Consumer Report shows that the iphone 6 and iphone 6+ are much weaker than the previous gen. Add in the fact that a pocket is not always going to be applying force directly to the center, then it would be concerning. Its NOT much ado about nothing.


Can someone please take this one?

it's been explained so many times I can't be bothered anymore.....
 
Can someone please take this one?

it's been explained so many times I can't be bothered anymore.....
One credible report shows up, and you didn't take out the relevant data from it? 1. There's a bendgate. 2. Its shown to be weaker than previous gens. 3. Maybe the phone is easier to bend and thats why there's bendgate?
 
The banning of news source over this is ridiculous and makes it look like Apple has something to hide. Some of you people are ridiculous for defending Apple. And surf monkey, think about this. The average person weights over 150 lbs. They can easily be squeezing a phone and not know it when even Consumer Report shows that the iphone 6 and iphone 6+ are much weaker than the previous gen. Add in the fact that a pocket is not always going to be applying force directly to the center, then it would be concerning. Its NOT much ado about nothing.

Okay. So, with tens of millions of phones out in the world where are the many hundreds of reports of pocket bent phones? Where?

Nowhere, that's where. Because they don't exist. Your speculation about what could happen is simply not supported by the evidence. If it could happen it would be happening, but it isn't.

Case closed.

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One credible report shows up, and you didn't take out the relevant data from it? 1. There's a bendgate. 2. Its shown to be weaker than previous gens. 3. Maybe the phone is easier to bend and thats why there's bendgate?

There's a bendgate because other companies have BILLIONS of dollars to gain by knocking Apple out of the top phone maker spot.
 
Okay. So, with tens of millions of phones out in the world where are the many hundreds of reports of pocket bent phones? Where?

Nowhere, that's where. Because they don't exist. Your speculation about what could happen is simply not supported by the evidence. If it could happen it would be happening, but it isn't.

Case closed.

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There's a bendgate because other companies have BILLIONS of dollars to gain by knocking Apple out of the top phone maker spot.
The only group to have access to this data is Apple. Is Apple going to release it? No. Time will tell. This is one of those cases where years later, there's a class action suit against Apple, showing Apple hiding and not fixing bent phones, you know, like the water damage class action suit.
 
The only group to have access to this data is Apple. Is Apple going to release it? Time will tell. This is one of those cases where years later, there's a class action suit against Apple, showing Apple hiding and not fixing bent phones, you know, like the water damage class action suit.

Nothing is stopping people from posting about it here. Your argument is gutted.
 
Nothing is stopping people from posting about it here. Your argument is gutted.

There are 2500+ people here right now in the middle of the day. This seems like an extremely small percentage of users. What makes you think someones first thought will be to rush to the internet rather than just, you know, take it back?
 
Nope. I've referenced the few who have posted here.
Lets get the facts straight.
Is the iphone 6 and 6+ much weaker than the 5 and 5s?
Have there been reports of these phones bending in normal use?
Do you have evidence that this is impossible?
If you have evidence, I'm all ears. I just don't trust companies when they say this is no problem.
edit: I don't understand what you mean by referencing the posts. If you're going to dismiss it and only count a review site such as consumer report as valid, then it the same thing as not referring to them.
 
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Just give it up Judas1, you're talking to people who probably wouldn't even admit it if their own phones were bent, out of fear that Apple stock prices might go down. Even if Apple released an official statement tomorrow stating that it was a "design defect" and they are recalling devices, some people on this forum would still say "it wasn't a design defect, Apple was just forced into a corner by all the completely false claims so they had no choice but to try to save face this way."
 
I wouldn't be completely sure that this was the only reason the revoke this publication's accreditation. "Computer Bild: is a publication from the same publisher as "Bild" - one of the tabloids on the German press market. If you go to computerbild.de right now, and scroll down just a bit, you see t1t5 already ("The 150 hottest act photos") and that sums up the quality of this publication in my opinion.
No one serious about computers, phones or other hardware would ever touch it!
 
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