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And how is this different? If I was shopping for a new TV this week, this might make me choose Samsung over another brand, just like free iPads might make me choose one dealer over another. It's a promotion. It happens all the time. Look at the Best Buy ad for any week, they're always giving something away if you buy something else. Sometimes it's free games with a console, free movies with a Blu-Ray player, free printer with a computer. This week it happens to be a free tablet with a TV.
The point is that bundles usually include things that more discerning consumers would never buy outside of the package. It's a way of clearing excess stock that is not otherwise moving. I mean, would you really buy a Samsung home theater in a box if it wasn't included in the package with that TV?
 
goodgod i will never understand how people can be such "fanboys" of freakin electronics. the comments r worse than a hannah montana discussion lol

does it make one sleep better at night if the samsung tablet isnt selling who gives a beep do u personally benefit in any way from it

I think the bigger question is why on earth are you so bother by the fact that there are those that post about such things?

Most of the time the way I see it folks are just having a good time and this time is just happens to be at Samsung's expense. The Galaxy Tab is far from dead, this is just a bump in the road.

Fandroid can be just as crazy as Apple fans, but at the end of the day does it really matter? Really?
 
Yes, that's why the iPad is outselling all makes of laptops, and its sales seem to be increasing on a daily basis. This is not the part of the sales curve that represents market saturation, at least not for the iPad.

And the last time I checked, the iPad2 was not the newest tablet out there, but was in fact among the oldest. People aren't buying them because they are the latest tech with the highest specs, but because they offer the best user experience (witness the fact that even WebOS runs substantially faster on the iPad2 than it does on its own native hardware). Which once again goes to show that specs aren't everything.

Its a tech toy (referring to tablets in general), whether you want to believe it or not. It doesn't offer anything new that other techs before it hasn't offered. Its a bigger screened smartphone without the phone. But its a new type of product. Thats what I meant by newest and coolest.

There's obvious fanboyism in this thread, where people would instantly come to the defense of an Apple product. These products will speak for themselves. So you and others don't need to point out how great the Ipad is.
 
Tablets are just the latest tech fad, for people who have extra money to blow. Tech fads don't last and is dominated by the newest and coolest out there. The market is already saturated because the people that want this toy already has one. Honestly, I don't know what these manufacturing company are thinking.

Interesting point. 'It's a toy', 'it's not as good as a netbook', ' it will never catch on' etc etc, were all popular points made by 'fandroids' back in 2010 before it became obvious that as Steve Jobs remarked we are truly now in a 'post-pc' world, and that tablets or more specifically the iPad lead the way to the future. Facts made all the more obvious by both analysts data, and recent results from Dell, HP, and now Samsung.
 
And Hyundai was giving away iPads with car purchases. why is this news?

It was not to clear stocks of iPad, it was to ry to improve the image of Hyundai.

They installed the cars manuals on the iPad, it was a feature of the car.

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A few weeks ago, a car dealership was given away iPads with a free test drive. Does that mean the iPad is doing bad as well?

No you clearly are missing the point.

Samsung are giving away tablets to clear stock of the devices, why do we know that? Because the Galaxy Tab is not a huge seller, it is not the market leader it is not the 'hot' product.

The car dealer was giving away the iPads not because Apple can't sell them but because they are such a hot product that is the market leader in great demand it will get them masses of interest and traffic into the dealership.

Can you see the difference or are you still going to be obtuse?
 
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A few weeks ago, a car dealership was given away iPads with a free test drive. Does that mean the iPad is doing bad as well?

If they were apple cars yes.

These are given away when you buy a Samsung tv. Notice the connection? The tv is made by Samsung and the tablet by Samsung. Very similar names.

When a car dealer is giving away iPads apple is getting full retail price. When you get a free tablet w a Samsung tv Samsung is not getting the full price for their product.
 
Bribery at both ends!

Nobody wants to pay for a Galaxy Tab that has very few useful apps available. Nobody wants to pay for a muddy, colorless 3-D picture that requires proprietary glasses and the middle spot on the sofa.

Samsung - out on two strikes here.

I find it fascinating that the largest corporation in the world has made its success by creating forward-leaning and useful hardware and software, while other tech companies fail to understand the lessons Apple is openly displaying. Apple's biggest historic missteps were trying to provide too much whiz-bang and not enough usefulness (Cube, anyone?).

When will other companies learn? Eye candy may sell one unit, but if that is all it is, the buyer won't recommend it to a friend.

And that, my friends, is the secret to success in almost any market.
 
Meanwhile, AppleInsider is reporting that the remaining Touchpads will be sold for $99 for the 16GB version and $149 for the 32GB version.

Non-iPad tablet sold at fire sales for $99. That is bad news for everyone who isn't Apple. Apple sells every iPad it can build for $499. Touchpad which looks roughly the same on paper gets sold for $99. So now Samsung has to argue why they are worth $499 and not $99.

Note: Nothing cheap to be found in the UK.
 
Too bad the Galaxy is having trouble. I just got one to develop with, and the OS is really nice in a tablet.

Edit: lol downvotes. This community has turned ridiculous.

Jobsians. You're in their natural habitat. You should expect such downvoting because you're even mentioning a non-Apple product. Status quo, dude.
 
So one of these two products isn't selling well.

And I don't think it's the 3D TV -->http://gizmodo.com/5626187/samsung-claims-3d-victoryhas-88-of-us-3d-tv-sales

Hey, that TV looks like the TV Apple has yet to make. Damn thieves!

(on a more serious note: having a large share is not necessarily the same as selling well. im not going to say they sell poorly, because i know very little about US-adoption of 3D, but i do know that 3D-TVs per se do have trouble catching on. Thus, even if they dominate the market this might very well be about pushing TVs*.

* stocks needs to be replaced with newer models. big tvs take up a lot of shelf-space etc.

p.s.

Just saying.

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And Hyundai was giving away iPads with car purchases. why is this news?

Toyota too. Could've bought myself a 64 gb 3G at half (european) price since i know a dealer, but i turned it down.

Only among nerds. The other 99% of the world doesn't know about the legal issues.

Its headline news each time. The world knows, at least outside of the ol' US and A.

Mr. Monk, you should know better...
Are you comparing an under $2,000.00 TV with a $20,000.00 Car?

I'm going to need a new TV soon, so the Galaxy would make a nice Digital Picture Frame for the Living Room.

What matters (for the seller) is the margin, not the total cost.

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It was well known during those iPod touch promotions that as soon as they ended, Apple would release new iPod touches, so it was a firesale of about-to-be-outdated technology in order to sell Macs. Unless you're implying that Samsung might be about to announce a new Galaxy Tab when the first one has been out for just a couple of months, I think you're missing the point of the 2 promotions.

They wont. A new TV-series on the other hand...

Its a tech toy (referring to tablets in general), whether you want to believe it or not. It doesn't offer anything new that other techs before it hasn't offered. Its a bigger screened smartphone without the phone. But its a new type of product. Thats what I meant by newest and coolest.

There's obvious fanboyism in this thread, where people would instantly come to the defense of an Apple product. These products will speak for themselves. So you and others don't need to point out how great the Ipad is.

For now, i tend to agree with your basic argument. I do think, however, that this will change in the years to come (price levels definitely needs to come down a notch or seven though - very few is willing to cough up 1000 for a phone + 1000 for a laptop + 1000 for a desktop and then an additional 1000 for a tablet (ok, im aware that its way cheaper in the states, but still... its lots of money, and these new devices needs to be refreshed even faster than the old ones).
 
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The point is that bundles usually include things that more discerning consumers would never buy outside of the package. It's a way of clearing excess stock that is not otherwise moving. I mean, would you really buy a Samsung home theater in a box if it wasn't included in the package with that TV?

<enter Captain Obvious>
Oh...that must be the reason why every console maker bundles those ****** games once in a while:

- PS3 Killzone 3-Bundle
- PS3 Little Big Planet 2-Bundle
- XBox Halo Reach-Bundle
- XBox Gears of War Bundle

Yeah. Those games are really lousy and nobody is interested in them.
<exit Captain Obvious>
 
Why only Asian companies benefit from Microsoft windows and Googles' Android?

:apple:: We do NO licensing, WE carefully plan ( do research design and engeneering ) before any realese.
:cool:: You know design IS not the look, but functionality, how things works related to each other, It is like building a football team, or any team FTM.
:eek:: So do you think that chinese companies with its government on board can BUY Google or Microsoft as Apple may be hard to buy, it has a very deep pocket?
:rolleyes:: To add what they do not have - prestige? - you know, to fireUp consumerism from its vast middle class and reduce external influence on its economy?
:eek:: it is a possibility, unlike the fear of the Japanese you saw in the States decades ago, even though Japanese did go there competing. You see no fear of the chinese government buying dying USA companies.
:D: Blame mindless licensing. Italy lost to Germany all of its BIG manufacturing names, see how bad is the Italy economy?
:rolleyes:: I see some parallelism there. It is capitalism stupid!
 
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The point is that bundles usually include things that more discerning consumers would never buy outside of the package. It's a way of clearing excess stock that is not otherwise moving. I mean, would you really buy a Samsung home theater in a box if it wasn't included in the package with that TV?

Um, the PS3 with Metal Gear Solid 4 (universally accepted as one of the best games ever made) would like to have a word with you.
 
The point is that bundles usually include things that more discerning consumers would never buy outside of the package. It's a way of clearing excess stock that is not otherwise moving. I mean, would you really buy a Samsung home theater in a box if it wasn't included in the package with that TV?


Ah, got it. Giving away free stuff is to get rid of excess stock that no body wants to buy, unless it's Apple giving away free iPods with laptops in the Back to School deal. Then it's a genius marketing move. :rolleyes:
 
Well that doesn't make it look good, that's for sure. It's like all those BOGO Android phones-- if you advertise on TV that you can get 2 for 1... now that's desperation for hardware sales.

It's a shame the tablet competition is... failing, dare I say.

It is a shame, what's even more a shame is that it's not because these products are necessarily inferior, but because of the massive hype surrounding Apple products and all the free PR they get from the media.
 
Interesting point. 'It's a toy', 'it's not as good as a netbook', ' it will never catch on' etc etc, were all popular points made by 'fandroids' back in 2010 before it became obvious that as Steve Jobs remarked we are truly now in a 'post-pc' world, and that tablets or more specifically the iPad lead the way to the future. Facts made all the more obvious by both analysts data, and recent results from Dell, HP, and now Samsung.

Honestly, Steve Job's got such a loyal following, he can put out dog crap, and people would buy it. Then version 2.0 can be dog crap with a nice scent. I'm exaggerating of course. My point is that Steve Jobs, like nobody else gets a lot of leeway when he puts out a new product. He can put out whatever and people will buy it because its the latest Apple gadget. Tablets will ride the Apple awesomeness wave until people begin to get bored and look for something else new that Apple comes up with.
 
Ah, got it. Giving away free stuff is to get rid of excess stock that no body wants to buy, unless it's Apple giving away free iPods with laptops in the Back to School deal. Then it's a genius marketing move. :rolleyes:

Actually the back to school deals where apple getting rid of extra stock before the new models where released.
 
My point is that Steve Jobs, like nobody else gets a lot of leeway when he puts out a new product. He can put out whatever and people will buy it because its the latest Apple gadget. Tablets will ride the Apple awesomeness wave until people begin to get bored and look for something else new that Apple comes up with.

That's why so many people lined up for days to buy the G4 Cube, the Apple TV, and even the Apple Battery Charger when they came out... Wait. What?

Seriously, though, I think you are confusing correlation with causality. Apple products don't sell well because they get great PR. Apple gets great PR because they tend to put out products that people want to buy. It's the culmination of a decade's work in building an integrated platform.

Remember, the first iPod came out in October 2001. The introduction was hyped to some extent, but also a bit muted, partly intentionally because of the recentness of 9/11, and partly because it was limited to Macs at the time. I distinctly remember the early "so what?" reaction to Apple releasing an "MP3 player." However, it received critical acclaim because it was easy to use, and within a year the momentum built when the Windows version came out. I look at the introduction of iTunes for Windows a few months after that as the turning point. From that point on, Apple had both content, and a mechanism for delivering that content to a mass audience. That focus on content has been an important reason why the iPhone and iPad were able to build on the initial success of the iPod, and why others (with the notable exception of Android in the mobile space) have struggled.
 
Too bad the Galaxy is having trouble. I just got one to develop with, and the OS is really nice in a tablet.

Edit: lol downvotes. This community has turned ridiculous.

Its been this ridiculous for a long time. Watch my downvotes now

This would be a good deal if the tv was around 900, but at 1500 youre still paying for the tablet and then some
 
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