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Maybe I need to rewatch but didn’t we see him start the fire and just sat there?

The season 4 preview shown at the Comic-Con panel made me look forward to Monday night even more.

It looks a lot darker than seasons 1-3, which fits with Jimmy's continued transition. But they pretty much confirmed that Chuck died, although I suppose he could return in a prior timeline. Vince Gilligan did say that neither Walt nor Jesse will appear in S4, though he strongly hinted that we'll see them in a future episode.
 
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I have a question about BCS as compared to Breaking Bad. I never got hooked on Breaking a Bad, because it was too dark a story, for me. However in BCS, Jimmy seems like basically a nice guy, who wants to be a good person, but has faults. How was he in BB, still the nice guy, or a bad guy sleeze?
 
I have a question about BCS as compared to Breaking Bad. I never got hooked on Breaking a Bad, because it was too dark a story, for me. However in BCS, Jimmy seems like basically a nice guy, who wants to be a good person, but has faults. How was he in BB, still the nice guy, or a bad guy sleeze?

By the time the BB timeline came around, Saul Goodman, formerly Jimmy McGill, had become a full-on sleazy attorney. Better Call Saul is chronicling his transformation from Jimmy to Saul, but it's not a straight transition. That's why the character is so interesting to me — part of Jimmy wants to do the right thing, but he's been so screwed over by the system, including his brother, that he resorts to increasingly nefarious behavior to get by and, in his own way, succeed.

Bob Odenkirk pulls this off brilliantly, in my opinion. You can feel the conflict raging inside him. In some ways, there's a parallel between Jimmy/Saul's in BCS and Walt's in BB. However, from what we've seen, he doesn't become as horrible as Walt was at the conclusion of BB.
 
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By the time the BB timeline came around, Saul Goodman, formerly Jimmy McGill, had become a full-on sleazy attorney. Better Call Saul is chronicling his transformation from Jimmy to Saul, but it's not a straight transition. That's why the character is so interesting to me — part of Jimmy wants to do the right thing, but he's been so screwed over by the system, including his brother, that he resorts to increasingly nefarious behavior to get by and, in his own way, succeed.

Bob Odenkirk pulls this off brilliantly, in my opinion. You can feel the conflict raging inside him. In some ways, there's a parallel between Jimmy/Saul's in BCS and Walt's in BB. However, from what we've seen, he doesn't become as horrible as Walt was at the conclusion of BB.
Bob Odenkirk has outstanding charisma and conflict in his character and I like his girlfriend, Kim too! :D The entire cast is outstanding.
 
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BCS has done enough between multiple characters to keep the show interesting. I just wish some of the legal stuff in the first couple of seasons were a bit more interesting. It has mostly paid off, however.
 
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Well I watched the season premier last night and was unimpressed, not even sure if I can muster up enough interest to check out the next episode.
Really slow and boring opening, and in black-n-white yet, was starting to think my TV had crapped out.:(
 
Spoiler tags are silly for a thread that says "Spoilers" in it.

Disagree.
But you're a yankee so what do you know?
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Well I watched the season premier last night and was unimpressed, not even sure if I can muster up enough interest to check out the next episode.
Really slow and boring opening, and in black-n-white yet, was starting to think my TV had crapped out.:(

I thought it was a really good episode.
 
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Well I watched the season premier last night and was unimpressed, not even sure if I can muster up enough interest to check out the next episode.
Really slow and boring opening, and in black-n-white yet, was starting to think my TV had crapped out.:(

BCS tends to start slowly as they set up the storylines for the season, but there was still a lot going on. The B&W in the opening indicated that it was a flash forward to after the BB timeline. Saul may have started a new life as a Cinnabon manager, but it's clear that he's still in jeopardy or thinks he is. I imagine it's similar to what people in the U.S.A.'s witness protection program go through.
 
BCS has done enough between multiple characters to keep the show interesting. I just wish some of the legal stuff in the first couple of seasons were a bit more interesting. It has mostly paid off, however.
I’ve always loved court room dramas. Unfortunately not enough of that in this show. While I’m enjoying it, I agree with you about multiple characters. Jimmy McGill has his moments but this part of the story dynamic is not enough to drive the show. In contrast, Mike Ehrmantriut and the drug trafficking story have kept the show alive.

Just watched the Season 4 premier, a filler episode. Not a negative critique, just an observation. Jimmy is happy to saddle Howard with his guilt.
 
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I’ve always loved court room dramas. Unfortunately not enough of that in this show. While I’m enjoying it, I agree with you about multiple characters. Jimmy McGill has his moments but this part of the story dynamic is not enough to drive the show. In contrast, Mike Ehrmantriut and the drug trafficking story have kept the show alive.

Just watched the Season 4 premier, a filler episode. Not a negative critique, just an observation. Jimmy is happy to saddle Howard with his guilt.

damn near ecstatic...
 
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I was kind of disappointed with this week's episode. It was just more of a HEY! remember this guy! and this guy! Here they are.... nothing much happened and the great hummel heist was so long and drawn out....
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I’ve always loved court room dramas. Unfortunately not enough of that in this show. While I’m enjoying it, I agree with you about multiple characters. Jimmy McGill has his moments but this part of the story dynamic is not enough to drive the show. In contrast, Mike Ehrmantriut and the drug trafficking story have kept the show alive.

Just watched the Season 4 premier, a filler episode. Not a negative critique, just an observation. Jimmy is happy to saddle Howard with his guilt.
That's your cross to bear is one of the best delivered lines ever!
 
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I was kind of disappointed with this week's episode. It was just more of a HEY! remember this guy! and this guy! Here they are.... nothing much happened and the great hummel heist was so long and drawn out....
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That's your cross to bear is one of the best delivered lines ever!

One thing I've learned from watching Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is that Vince & Co. never rush the story. The most recent episode wasn't quite as explosive as the one before, but it did a good job showing how Jimmy and Nacho will have to deal with the more unpleasant aspects of their respective career choices. Nacho almost dies, while Jimmy has to roll out of his comfortable bed in the middle of the night to rescue Ira by breaking into Neff's car.
 
What I find interesting is that the Jimmy McGill story functions as a sub-plot, especially for this season. The main story is the cartel drama, with Mike second, and last Jimmy cooling his heals looking for a job, and orchestrating a small heist.
 
What I find interesting is that the Jimmy McGill story functions as a sub-plot, especially for this season. The main story is the cartel drama, with Mike second, and last Jimmy cooling his heals looking for a job, and orchestrating a small heist.

I see Kim as having her own storyline that intersects with Jimmy's but that stands on its own too. It’s intriguing because, while we know what happens to Jimmy/Saul (at least until his Cinnabon gig), we have no idea what Kim ends up doing or if she even remains alive in the Breaking Bad timeline. From the last episode it looks like she's more interested in becoming a public defender than continuing with corporate law. I don't think she'll be working for Mesa Verde much longer. In any case, I hope Rhea Seehorn sticks around until the series ends.
 
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I see Kim as having her own storyline that intersects with Jimmy's but that stands on its own too. Its intriguing because, while we know what happens to Jimmy/Saul (at least until his Cinnabon gig), we have no idea what Kim ends up doing or if she even remains alive in the Breaking Bad timeline. From the last episode it looks like she's more interested in becoming a public defender than continuing with corporate law. I don't think she'll be working for Mesa Verde much longer. In any case, I hope Rhea Seehorn sticks around until the series ends.
I’ve associated Kim with the lawyer/Jimmy plot as this is when we see her mostly, as part of his life. I was worried for her character because as I recall when she had her car crash due to fatigue, she was working under a deadline, and I thought that would end her relationship with Mesa Verde, but apparently it did not.
 
Normally I hate prequels. Who gives a crap how Han Solo got his last name? But this show is just fantastic. If you told me years ago that a show would spend a lot of time on explaining how they got that meth lab built, I would have loled. But it’s a great story!
 
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