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More fun on Ballmer laughing at iphone

"You can converge a toaster and a refrigerator, but you know those things are not going to be probably be pleasing to the user," Cook told analysts during a Tuesday earnings call.

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LOL
 
There was another article a while back about Apple making more than 100% of the profit (since som other companies had negative profit and samsung lost a lot of money on Note 7, so the math is actually correct).

So depends on how you look at it :)
Wish this statistic could be filtered on premium phones.

in theory, if you have more returns than phones sold, you could have negative market share.
 
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You should have compared Andorids market share to IOS before posting.
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Don't let facts like those get in the way of Apple fanboys.
Why? I don't assume everyone here is a blind fanboy who doesn't already know that Android has the dominant market share. Even if you didn't know, it's kind of common sense given price and availability of Android phones. But the fact is Android wouldn't be what it is now without competition from Apple and the iPhone. Would it have become dominant today if it was released under its original design? Who knows, it could have been but my point was not about market share.
 
RIM is the poster-child for corporate arrogance, complacency, and failure to recognize a competitive threat. They will be discussed in business school for generations to come.

The biggest business faux pas in history is when Bill Gates asked IBM (who needed MS-DOS) that MS get paid 100% of a license fee for every copy of MS-DOS sold with every IBM computer. And that MS could license the same MS-DOS to "other" companies. IBM decided to let MS take 100% of the SW license fee as they smugly assumed that all money was in the HW and NOT in the SW. And they also thought no "other" company could compete with Big Blue. The rest is history, Gates is the richest man in the world, and IBM is...a footnote in tech history.
 
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You should have compared Andorids market share to IOS before posting.
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Don't let facts like those get in the way of Apple fanboys.

90% profits at 10% market share or barely break even margins. I know which I would rather have.
 
This post is beyond bizarre. "FU douches"????? Do you have some sort of personal connection to Apple? Why does a consumer electronic device, made by a corporation who doesn't give one iota about you, elicit such an emotional response from you to the point you feel the need to use profanity.

Who are the "douches" you speak of?

Kinda surprised at the % of iOS. It is so funny though, you look back in '08-9 and everyone was saying that the iPhone was a toy and not a 'corporate' device. FU douches!
 
Good lesson here folks. Don't sit on your hands or rest on your laurels, become complacent, or whatever silly saying you can come up with. You need to zig when everyone else is zagging. So whatever you do, don't be like RIM.
 
Sure... there's no "traditional" file system on the device... no way to browse C:\ for instance.

Actually, you can browse and create directories, etc. But only within your application's sandbox for security reasons. So an app can't snoop in private data that belongs to other apps unless the other apps permits that via an API.
 
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Everything's relative.

That chart shows Blackberry sold over 200 million phones.

Ten years ago any smartphone maker would've killed to sell that many.

Wait... what? That chart shows Blackberry sold 207,900 phones last quarter.

Two hundred thousand.

Not millions. Not even close to anything resembling millions.
 
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There's no lack of apps. You can get a ton of Android ones that work from Amazon and Aptoide.

Indeed. it's not the apps or the BB10 OS, it's actually the marketing. I still rock a silver edition passport and it's the best phone I've ever used. yes I have an iphone and android as well. Did you know that BB10 uses the same siri engine {wolfram alpha} . and i can tons of android productivity apps. like amazon kindle. ms office. etc.
 
BlackBerry is not at 0%. There are currently many BlackBerry BB10 (& BlackDroid) users out there on numerous networks.

BlackBerry continues to support its BB10 operating system for consumers and business users. But, it didn't launch any new BB10 devices. You can buy BB10 devices from www.blackberry.com, amazon, staples,...

BlackBerry is currently focusing on launching Android devices. The Priv, Dtek 50 & 60, and very soon another one...the Mercury. That's 4 BlackDroid.

There's growing concern about security, malware, etc. If you get an Android device, get a BlackDroid. You can't root a BlackDroid.

I remain a happy BlackBerry Passport (BB10) users. It's still better than iPhone, Windows, or any Android device.
 
BlackBerry is not at 0%. There are currently many BlackBerry BB10 (& BlackDroid) users out there on numerous networks.

What you're referring to is "installed base" which is the number of Blackberries being used out in the world.

But "market share" is a company's percentage of all smartphones sold last quarter. And it's basically 0%

If you wanna get technical... Blackberry's market share last quarter was 0.048%
 
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Nearly ten years after Apple launched the iPhone, which completely upended the smartphone industry, the device has effectively helped to wipe out one of its major predecessors: the BlackBerry.

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BlackBerry has at last fallen to a rounded 0.0% share among smartphone operating systems after shipping just 207,000 smartphones last quarter, following an over seven year decline from its peak market share of approximately 20% in 2009, according to the latest quarterly data from research firm Gartner.

The demise of the smartphone that was once the poster child of Canadian innovation has been a long one in the making, but one that was inevitable now that BlackBerry has shifted its focus to software and sold the global rights to future BlackBerry-branded smartphones to Chinese company TCL Communication.

BlackBerry actually continued to grow for around two years after the iPhone launched in June 2007, taking market share away from then-leader Nokia. BlackBerry's market share among all smartphone operating systems was 9.6% in 2007, 16.6% in 2008, and 19.9% in 2009, according to Gartner. Then, the decline started.

By 2011, the surging popularity of iPhones and Samsung Galaxy smartphones led iOS and Android to leapfrog BlackBerry and Nokia to form a duopoly in the smartphone market that exists to this day. iOS and Android combined for a record 99.6% market share last quarter, according to Gartner.

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Worldwide Smartphone Sales to End Users by Operating System in 4Q16 (Gartner)

Windows 10 Mobile was the only other platform to make any sort of dent last quarter, recording an insignificant 0.3% market share, according to Gartner. Windows 10 Mobile fell from 1.1% in the year-ago quarter. A group of unnamed "other" operating systems captured the remaining 0.1% share.

iOS adoption is still low compared to Android, with the platforms capturing 17.9% and 81.7% worldwide market share respectively in the fourth quarter. iPhones mainly target the premium smartphone market, however, while there are Android-based smartphones at all price points sold by dozens of brands.

What's next for BlackBerry? In addition to focusing on software, the company is also doing self-driving vehicle research, while its rumored "Mercury" smartphone by TCL will be unveiled on February 25 at Mobile World Congress.

Article Link: BlackBerry Hits '0%' Market Share Nearly Ten Years After iPhone Launched

BlackBerry's self driving vehicles drive directly to bankruptcy courts. Or over cliffs
 
Kinda surprised at the % of iOS. It is so funny though, you look back in '08-9 and everyone was saying that the iPhone was a toy and not a 'corporate' device. FU douches!
I feel somewhat unhappy that the BlackBerry (RIM) had to go out of business. Job losses for those Canadians were pretty bad. What I didn't like was how those darn tech pundits at the time were constantly saying how the BlackBerry was way better than the iPhone and that the BlackBerry was the better overall device. Those pundits and analysts really misled investors with their supposedly ability to read the future. Those sort of people always make me sick. They never seem to see both sides of a story. There were potentially more consumers who were going to be using smartphones than corporate users and there was certainly more to smartphones than the ability to text and send written messages. Wall Street kept pushing RIM's share price higher and higher for unexplained reasons and it was the iPhone's future that was always in doubt. Near the end you could see all those 2 for 1 BlackBerry sales eating into revenue. Still Wall Street kept touting the BlackBerry until the share price tanked. It's not about gloating but outright lies being fed to investors. There's still too many crooks on Wall Street who constantly lie to investors. Apple was supposedly at death's door before earnings.

Yeah, the analysts were so sure no one was buying iPhone 7s or 7 Plus models so let's make sure Apple's stock goes into the toilet. Chinese-made smartphones are so much better than iPhones, they claimed. It's hard to believe those are American analysts the way they try to make a profitable American company look like crap in so many ways. What's so odd is how you'll never hear all those pundits telling how Amazon or Alphabet should be run, but there's no shortage of geniuses who claim to be able to tell Apple how to run the company.
 
Wait, one person out of 1000 still buys a Blackberry? There must be one in my neighbourhood, poor thing...
 
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