I don't want to date it, I just want to compute on it.Having spent the best part of 25 years in the semiconductor industry all I can say is that first generation silicon will not be pretty.
Good points, and now you've got me thinking that it won't be just a single product, but at least 2. At least one low end MB/MBA, and at least one high end MBP.This comment changed my thinking a bit. I’ve been thinking that Apple would want to come out of the gate showing performance to put everyone’s concerns to rest. But seeing my own thinking echoed back to me has me reconsidering. The problem with that approach is that it would overhang the market on their entire product line.
For example, if they really do put out a lower end MB that matches their high end performance it risks causing everyone to wait for ARM before they buy the higher end product.
I’m starting to think it more likely that they go small with a focus on portability and battery life. The downside would be that his reinforces people’s concerns that ARM is a chip for portable devices rather than heavy workloads. The advantages though is that those people will continue buying the existing high end products and it also give Apple more time to finish higher performance processors.
I can imagine a 12” MB using an iPad chip, but not a top end iMac. I suspect they’ll eventually have dedicated parts for their performance products.
I agree ~ and since they don’t have to organize press into a room, they can have these virtual events as often as they want.Makes total sense. Why mixing iPhones with Macs when they both need good spotlight. Spread it out and you have more media coverage overall![]()
Good thing it is the 14th generation then.Having spent the best part of 25 years in the semiconductor industry all I can say is that first generation silicon will not be pretty.
Having spent the best part of 25 years in the semiconductor industry all I can say is that first generation silicon will not be pretty.
I still don’t believe the end goal is increased macOS marketshare. I think it’s more that they know the near future sees more and more folks comfortable with and choosing iOS/iPadOS. This is more so that, as the last few folks that like macOS stop buying systems, they can make more of a profit on each one as the sales decline.and it should gain them market share over time.
Would you really consider it first generation silicon? How different will it be compared to whatever A14X is? Enough to be considered first generation?
I'm sadly typing this from a first gen 2015 Macbook that has been sluggish since the day it was bought. Anything has to be better performing...
This is why I think it will increase their market share. We know iOS devices are clearly their largest market. But there are a lot of people that own these devices and still use a non-Mac (it would be interesting to see the actual stat).I think it’s more that they know the near future sees more and more folks comfortable with and choosing iOS/iPadOS.
Only considering models from 2006, both new families and new designs:We frequently see it mentioned on here, but what are all these first gen Apple products which sucked, but whose problems were fixed within a revision or two?
Apple is not releasing a new form factor but rather changing the internals of one of their existing laptops. Apple already has had years to make their own ARM silicon for iPhones and iPads. One could argue that they ultimately spend much more money on quality for those chips as there are millions of devices and billions of dollars in penalty if they get it wrong. They will use a variation of an iPhone chip for a laptop, so this is not likely to suffer the same quality fate as laptop designs that are new. Moreover Sir J. Ive is no longer the one steering the design boat over there. The abandonment of the crap keyboard suggests that design for design sake is not the driving force at Apple anymore.
They already have had experience to refine it with it with their iPads.
Including the actual year...Everything is so dragged out this year
Having spent the best part of 25 years in the semiconductor industry all I can say is that first generation silicon will not be pretty.
Wish they’d hurry up. My wife’s 12” MB is on its last legs - constantly overheating and shutting off.
I haven't jumped on that train - I suffered from massive problems with catalina and SMB shares up until a couple months ago, so I skipped the betas this time around.Hope they could fix Big Sur first as it's not running very well right now and getting slower after each updates.
Maybe new Apple Silicon will run Big Sur better. Who knows.
None of the “like” buttons expresses properly “that’s your opinion, but I think you’re totally wrong”. A new processor is no reason to change the case.I'm betting on a whole new case and look. There is no way they just drop Apple Silicon in the current designs.