True.
I think in the long run we’ll see some new form factors, too, because Arm is an enabling factor for that. Much better thermals, ability to include special purpose processing blocks on the SoC, etc.
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I think in the long run we’ll see some new form factors, too, because Arm is an enabling factor for that. Much better thermals, ability to include special purpose processing blocks on the SoC, etc.
And a display that looks like an iMac, so you can have effectively a two monitor iMac with matching design.
As an example...
Have you used USB devices, especially storage devices, on Apple SOC devices like the iPad Pro? The experience isn't the best and it's been glitchy. I STILL have issues copying large files to and from USB sticks on my iPad and it's slow. Sometimes it breaks and I have to reboot my iPad to get it working again.
I'm a bit wary about how good USB and Thunderbolt support will be on Apple Silicon Macs. Definitely wait to see how things play out before spending the money.
I can see every developer buying one (to pony up next to their ARM mini) and brave first adopters who want to tinker and struggle with something new, but if I was in need of a new Mac right now, I sure as heck wouldn't buy the first ARM Mac to get unloaded off the shipping dock. Talk about a frustrating experience. There's going to be so many tootihng pains First Adopter issues with this new tech.
isn't the same company it was back in the PPC to Intel transition. I'd hazard to guess that none of the engineers that worked on that project even work there anymore. It's all new uncharted territory. Buckle up your safety harnesses!
isn't the same company it was back in the PPC to Intel transition. I'd hazard to guess that none of the engineers that worked on that project even work there anymore. It's all new uncharted territory. Buckle up your safety harnesses!
Right now the cheapest MacBook is cheaper than the most expensive iPad, and that will remain the case.
That WOULD be an interesting stat. My guess is that, seeing as how the iPad is outselling every Windows laptop made by all vendors, I tend to think that folks buying iPads are doing so as a preferred option to macOS or Windows. I would say they’ve already made the jump from “classic” computers to the iPad, going to macOS would be going backwards (to them, in interface, mobility, etc.)
I see every iPadOS system as being one more person who will likely NEVER need a Mac. We know most folks needs don’t even approach that of an iPad, so I don’t see them getting a Mac unless needs change drastically. But, that’s not likely often.
How much is the Intel processor in those cheap MacBooks? There’s an “opportunity” if Apple decides to stick with their 20-30% markup.
When they stopped supporting the Apple II, there was still more software out there for it than the Mac. I’m sure most Mac folks would agree that ending Apple II support in hindsight was a good thing. Mac AS users of the future will see ending Intel support as a good thing.
When they stopped supporting the Apple II, there was still more software out there for it than the Mac. I’m sure most Mac folks would agree that ending Apple II support in hindsight was a good thing. Mac AS users of the future will see ending Intel support as a good thing.
Heh, I lived through that era; it was more complicated than that.
The Apple II was actually hobbled because Apple didn't want it to compete with the Mac. The IIgs especially was a mere ghost of what it could have been if they had let the engineers make the best machine they could.
Early Macs were sad and pathetic compared to the Apple II platform. It took several years for them to finally catch up, and that was WITH Apple holding the II team's heads underwater half the time.
It left quite a sour taste for Apple in a lot of our mouths and it took a while for them to win some of us back. (2003 in my case!)
It may just come down to software for some. In my case, my most used apps are Sketch, Keynote, Pages, PDF Expert, and Mail. Sketch is only available on Mac, and Keynote and Pages are excellent on Mac — whereas PDF Expert and Mail are excellent on iPad, but Keynote and Pages are frustrating on iPad. So because of software, I need both!
Since performance-per-watt is the main selling point of moving to Apple Silicon, it would make sense to focus on the laptop market.
I have it on a reliable source from within Foxconn that it will in fact be the a 19 inch MBP Pro that is first to get the ARM in Nov.
Yep, depending on pricing. But I am with you, these things are going to sell extremely well. Apple will have secord numbers of Macs sold in 2021
Intel will have enterprise customers for a while still, AMD gamers, and Apple will have mainstream consumers.
like you I’m hoping for a 14” MacBook Pro in a similar design as the 14,1 mode iteration.
more importantly though, expecting a MacBook rebirth at a significantly lower cost than the current MacBook Air.
most importantly, is not so much cost, as much as initial Apple Silicon performance is, yet more than that how this new chip will work with or go against the typical industry paradigm of model tiers.
will the new Apple Silicon MacBook be just enough to equal the 2020 MacBook Air performance envelop?
or will they be able to jump with tradition and allow it to run 100 voices and track simultaneously in Logic Pro X and not have to worry about it being so powerful since it cannot run the standard apps that all current Macs can just yet?!
will the upcoming MacBook Pro 14” still have extremely limited GPU performance vs any upcoming 16” MacBook Pro?! Likewise will the MacBook Air have the same GPU performance as the MacBook Pro?
will the products names properly and accurately reflect the performance that should be expected by their consumers going forward?!
Makes total sense. Why mixing iPhones with Macs when they both need good spotlight. Spread it out and you have more media coverage overall
Yeah, its becoming a new "big event" each month.
The iPad Pro's out-perform the MacBook airs already don't they? So that's reasonable. But a lower cost? Apple usually raises prices - and its probably costly to create a new product with that chip.
you maybe right on the cost. I’m going by what Rene Ritchie mentioned that Apple doesn’t factor in the cost of design or manufacturing of the A series chip into the final product cause it doesn’t have to adhere to wants or needs of third party customers.
the iPad Pro’s do outperform the MacBooks on integer Or other spec tests and somewhat on ease of use for editing video (4K). But since we cannot do all functions and features not run as many apps or the same king of apps the comparison isn’t the same nor equal to equate.
I'm sticking with INTEL. APPLE is making a big mistake using ARM
Serious Graphic Designers and animators will now convert to windows 10 to Stay with INTEL and AMD
I know I'm right
MacOS should not look like a phone or Tablet OS. Its stupid
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Serious Graphic Designers and animators will now convert to windows 10 to Stay with INTEL and AMD
I know I'm right
MacOS should not look like a phone or Tablet OS. Its stupid
11th-generation Intel Rocket Lake processors are officially coming in 2021
As Team Blue doubles down on clock speed
This is illogical. Processor has nothing to do with look of the OS. And Arm is faster than intel.I'm sticking with INTEL. APPLE is making a big mistake using ARM
Serious Graphic Designers and animators will now convert to windows 10 to Stay with INTEL and AMD
I know I'm right
MacOS should not look like a phone or Tablet OS. Its stupid
11th-generation Intel Rocket Lake processors are officially coming in 2021
As Team Blue doubles down on clock speed
You know... ALL they have to do to stay with INTEL is just, you know, NOT buy a new computer? Probably lot easier than re-buying all their software for another platform (and possibly finding replacements for some software that’s not available).
Predicting Apple Silicon MacBook Air and 24" iMac to go first. If predecessor models are to be discontinued at the same time as the launch, this will mean that the Intel 21.5" iMac, the Intel 2-port 13" MacBook Pro, and the 2020 Intel MacBook Air all go into that great big Apple Store in the sky...
12" MacBook won't happen for a myriad of reasons. It was a failed experiment for more reasons than performance and keyboard nonsenses.
2020 10th Gen Intel was given to bide time; otherwise Apple could've kept 8th Gen Intel on the 4-port model as well (since the only real advantage to the current 2-port model over its direct predecessor is the updated keyboard). Ming Chi Kuo did predict the 13" MacBook Pro would go first, but he has sometimes confused similar launches for each other based on supply chain information that would've otherwise indicated something else. Plus any Apple Silicon Air would eliminate the need for the 2-port 13" Pro (which is basically the continuation of the 2010-2017 Airs).
The 2020 Intel Air is still underpowered and it was released early enough in the year that a replacement at the end of the year wouldn't be completely out of left field. Plus we have images of a leaked battery designed for the 2020 Air's form factor, but packing less capacity.
12" MacBook won't happen for a myriad of reasons. It was a failed experiment for more reasons than performance and keyboard nonsenses.
2020 10th Gen Intel was given to bide time; otherwise Apple could've kept 8th Gen Intel on the 4-port model as well (since the only real advantage to the current 2-port model over its direct predecessor is the updated keyboard). Ming Chi Kuo did predict the 13" MacBook Pro would go first, but he has sometimes confused similar launches for each other based on supply chain information that would've otherwise indicated something else. Plus any Apple Silicon Air would eliminate the need for the 2-port 13" Pro (which is basically the continuation of the 2010-2017 Airs).
The 2020 Intel Air is still underpowered and it was released early enough in the year that a replacement at the end of the year wouldn't be completely out of left field. Plus we have images of a leaked battery designed for the 2020 Air's form factor, but packing less capacity.
In Apple’s case, it has everything to do with it.
Big Sur’s UI has been heavily iOSified to make iOS/Catalyst apps not look crappy and out of place on the new ARM machines.