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Buying PowerPC Macs In 2012
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Well, in these fourms I've heard " Power PC " and " PPC " and " PowerPC ". And not being a Mac guy I just went with what I saw around the forums. I don't know the first thing about Macs, which Is why I don't use one as my main machine, but I'm just listing the reasons that I've heard from people who do use macs. I don't claim to be some kind of Mac expert, but I am not. Nor do I have the desire to be one lol
To correct some misconceptions here. Motorola 68000 was what made a Mac a Mac. The Motorola 68000 wasn't the only CPU used by Apple, but was also used by 2 other former giants -- Atari and Commodore with their Atari ST, TT, STE, Falcon plus Medusa clones and the Amiga line from Amiga 1000 all the way to A4000 and their clones. Amiga then was extensively used as video editing machines (Toasters), Atari with music and MIDI and the macs as desktop publishing stations. When macs went PowerPC, there were the same condemnations you get from people who are pro 680x0 and those who are embracing PowerPC and slowly but surely, the macs and the Windows PCs were slowing taking over the unique market segments Atari and Amiga held until eventually, you only have 2 machines that could do or exceeded the abilities of those older machines. Today, you will have a hard time finding any Atari or Amiga in action in North America sans some collectors, some pros or museums running them. Probably Europe would be a better place to find them. Suffice to say, what makes and keeps a PowerPC going in 2012 is software. It has been this way since the days when we still call our computers a "micro-computer". We dropped the moniker only because like the "new iPad", it has now gone mainstream.
In Vancouver, Canada, we still have 2 places that sell old Mac software with one of them located in North Vancouver that still sell vintage Macs and software. You can still do some things on older Macs.
However, Tom's video does point out certain things that you may not be able to do with older hardware. Video editing.
In the past, video editing can be done with the fastest G5s you can buy and they aren't really all that expensive nowadays. But wait, a lot of people are now going to photojournalism these days learning how to shoot video, or do video documentary with the newer generation of DSLR. The Canon EOS 5D Mark II started the trend and now eclipsed by the 5D Mark 3. Nikon now has the Nikon D4 and D800 (both 16MP and 36MP) machines that can record compressed 1080p footage as well as output true uncompressed 1080p through their HDMI ports. What that means is that, for modern video work, it's really not a matter of format standards that you need to deal with now, but the time it needs to do edit and processing footage. We have local video editing shops and schools who had Quad G5s then are starting to dump them because they are really not up to the standards for today's work. And if you try editing a 24MP or a 36MP RAW image file from a Nikon D3X or a D800, the G5 or souped up G4 are just not going to cut it in Photoshop. If you want to work in this industry today, you are not going to cut it with a G5. So, which is why I am really interested to see what Tom would come up with where the experts in the field are wrong. Also, digital cameras are improving too and they are and can output much higher and higher pixels of images and videos at the same cost of their older cameras. When you are forced to buy a new camera, all of a sudden your computer is not able to keep up. And that's going on today.
What people seem to have neglected is that, in 2012, Intel's Ivy Bridge will have better processing capabilities than the older Sandy Bridge. Apple Macs will be faster and better for the same price. I mean, a Core i5 Mac Mini priced at $519 refurbished has a lot of horsepower under the hood already and can last you a little while. New buyers will not buy a PowerPC, because they do not understand it. That leaves people like Tom who are on a budget. They choose either a PowerPC they need to run a certain software or a pre-loved Mac Intel. The majority of people will choose pre-loved Intels. Software is what dictates people buying habits NOT hardware love and you can run a lot more with pre-loved Intels.
As he said, he's new to Mac. And a load of people, granted new people, use those two terms. Easy to get confused I suppose.
Just get off everyone's back & try and get along with people again & give advice.
People like yourself and cocacolakid seem to think I exist to live up to your standards of how others should interact on here. I do nothing outside forum rules so you're just going to have to deal with me or add me to your ignore list. Trying to tell me how you think I should talk to people is futile.
If I adopted your thinking I would have to pick computers by how pretty they are rather than function. As a hardware tech since 1991 and Apple Certified tech since 1995 I can in no way adopt or support what you or similar posters like you try to pass off as "knowledge".
After a short hiatus from here to escape the rampant ignorance I am back in full force again so as I said earlier deal with it or ignore me.
Always a gentleman.
I wasn't telling you how you should speak to someone else. I was just saying you're rude. And how many times have you said you've been a hardware technician since 1991. We get the picture, you're probably the most knowledgeable on the site. You just don't come across to people like a friendly person.
Well if your going be be like that your going to get a lot of people ignoring you. We appreciate your help but dont act your the king of PowerPCs.
I'd love to hear more about the 7448 g4 that never really saw the light of day. I'd also love to hear some more about those 7455 with the l3 cache. Those upgrades have come way down in price and knowing whats best to look for would help me in my search for some g4 goodness.
Jeff please. Just be nicer to people. Your not intimidating anyone by sharing your years as a Mac nerd either.
I agree with aquadock here, you know a lot, but your not the king.
If your not going to be kind and courteous, just leave. We don't want this on our forums.
Tell you what.. if you come clean about all your lies I will fill any single reasonable request you have.
I will actually have a bit of respect for you again if you just man up and admit the truth.
What truth, I'm a man of my word and you know that, as I made the mistake of giving you my Pismo?
Nothing that I have ever posted here was a lie, nor do I want your respect. You can keep it.
I really wanted to stay out of this, but I must chime in here and ask that you please be careful with your use of the word "we". Some of us prefer accuracy over all else in these types of forums. I'm very pleased to see zen.state posting here again.
Both of You: Zen and Anthony: STOP IT. I don't mean to shout, but seriously guys, you are beginning to take over this forum with what amounts to an incredibly petty argument. We don't need this in a place where people come to get help.
Zen: Please can you stop acting like you are the be-all and end-all of knowledge about PowerPC Macintoshes. Sure you know an awful lot, but Im sure there must be someone somewhere who knows more. If you don't want to answer newbies questions, then just don't. If you see something wrong, please for the love of the forum don't call them out on it in a blunt way, instead do it subtly then they'll appreciate the help and everyone is happy, or just ignore it, instead of degenerating to this childishness (which is why I havent posted recently), your better than that.
Anthony: Stop it. Okay, seriously. Stop setting zen off on every thread you possibly can. Sure people may disagree or not like him, but we don't need every single PowerPC section thread degenerating into this argument. Take it off the forums. Please. Its beginning to drive me to the point of asking every mod I can find to come to this forum and expunge all this claptrap so we can get Back on Topic.
Zen: Please can you stop acting like you are the be-all and end-all of knowledge about PowerPC Macintoshes. Sure you know an awful lot, but Im sure there must be someone somewhere who knows more. If you don't want to answer newbies questions, then just don't. If you see something wrong, please for the love of the forum don't call them out on it in a blunt way, instead do it subtly then they'll appreciate the help and everyone is happy, or just ignore it, instead of degenerating to this childishness (which is why I havent posted recently), your better than that.
Anthony: Stop it. Okay, seriously. Stop setting zen off on every thread you possibly can. Sure people may disagree or not like him, but we don't need every single PowerPC section thread degenerating into this argument. Take it off the forums. Please. Its beginning to drive me to the point of asking every mod I can find to come to this forum and expunge all this claptrap so we can get Back on Topic.
You post loads of fallacies constantly. ie. Like telling ThunderSnake a little while ago not to bother asking me how my performance was as your computer was faster. A blatant lie and ignorant lie at that. Thats just one of hundreds of examples I could give. You know nothing about hardware you have never used and yet you try to BS your way through things constantly like you do.
You seem to get some thrill from inventing facts out of thin air that have no basis beyond delusions in your head.
I get it though.. delusional people don't know they are because of the delusion itself. It's something others notice also but they are just much nicer than I.
Stop claiming to know things about things that you have 0 experience with. Reading something on some random web page or inventing it in your head doesn't make it true.
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You are one of the few that actually get me and I myself have a lot of respect for your general outlook and abilities.
Post of the century.
Can we just stop arguing, agree to disagree & carry on with our days?
chris:
I respect you and your opinions but those things needed to be said to Anthony. I certainly didn't want to upset you but I don't regret what I said. As you pointed out he is stalking my posts trying to start stuff.
I said what I wanted in a way that breaks no rules and I am done.
I respect you and your opinions but those things needed to be said to Anthony. I certainly didn't want to upset you but I don't regret what I said. As you pointed out he is stalking my posts trying to start stuff.
I said what I wanted in a way that breaks no rules and I am done.
I don't reckon it was said in this thread. Might be some old beef.
Just to put it out there, if anybody really wants the entire story, feel free to PM me. It relates to the site (powerpcusers), and their involvement in that project (as inspired on this very forum). As a neutral intermediary Ive seen the entire thing, much of which has been off of this forum on other channels. Its a long story, but I can probably give anyone whose that interested a brief overview of why every thread-ish is degenerating as it is right now.
http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc-s4pro.php => requirements.I guess if it was intel only it would say.
You may send them an email..
My dual 1.8GHz G5 cost me $160 secondhand, and plays 1080p video smoothly. It does everything I need it to, has rock-solid reliability, and I've now upgraded it with 3GB of memory, 1TB of storage, Airport Extreme, Bluetooth, and a few other bits and pieces. If I wanted to, I could add more (and much faster) storage, more memory, faster wireless, more ports, etc etc. I would've gone Intel, I just couldn't afford it, but honestly, I see this G5 lasting me well into the future, I just don't need the extra performance at the moment.
