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Camping Out for the iPhone 4: The Line Starts Here
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in england, you receive disability benefits if you are disabled or have health issues, seizures would be included in this, it doesn't matter if you can work or not, you receive it for actually having the condition hence why they are called disability benefits, isn't it the same in america?, sorry, I am not sure, anyway in this guys case it has been proven he does have seizures, apparently pretty badly, he has also said he does work his own hours so when he can I figure, he said he isn't working (atm) and thats why he has a week to spend in front of a apple store but he has said he was buying the product with his own money
of course I don't know how things work in america and it might be different but if he does have health issues isn't he entitled to disability benefits?
hmm... no not really.
i just did it on att and his bill wouldnt have to be anywhere close to that...
It comes out to 64.99(plus tax) with the 2gb of data and 450 mins...
in england, you receive disability benefits if you are disabled or have health issues, seizures would be included in this, it doesn't matter if you can work or not, you receive it for actually having the condition hence why they are called disability benefits, isn't it the same in america?, sorry, I am not sure, anyway in this guys case it has been proven he does have seizures, apparently pretty badly, he has also said he does work his own hours so when he can I figure, he said he isn't working (atm) and thats why he has a week to spend in front of a apple store but he has said he was buying the product with his own money
of course I don't know how things work in america and it might be different but if he does have health issues isn't he entitled to disability benefits?
ehhh its not the same here. You only get money if your disability stops you from being able to work. If hes spending disability money on it... so what.. it means less of something else he will have for the month... its HIS money he can spend it as he wants even if it comes from the state. Im sure he made sacrifices to save the money up.
in england, you receive disability benefits if you are disabled or have health issues, seizures would be included in this, it doesn't matter if you can work or not, you receive it for actually having the condition hence why they are called disability benefits, isn't it the same in america?, sorry, I am not sure, anyway in this guys case it has been proven he does have seizures, apparently pretty badly, he has also said he does work his own hours so when he can I figure, he said he isn't working (atm) and thats why he has a week to spend in front of a apple store but he has said he was buying the product with his own money
of course I don't know how things work in america and it might be different but if he does have health issues isn't he entitled to disability benefits?
In America it's different from state to state. I can only speak for Ohio. I'm on disability because I have Spina Bifida. I can work, but since I have SB I have to be on medicaid for my healthcare. When you're on medicaid you're not allowed to work, and if I make more than $60 per month I will be kicked off and have no health insurance.
What most of us will do is work under the table. Like I'll do websites, computer repair. I'm forced to do this right now with a pre-existing condition.
And should you or a member of your family be unable to work, through disability, illness or simply the recession or unemployment, I hope you will act in such a despotic and dictatorial fashion and withhold anything but the basic needs of living.
Heaven forbid anyone actually derive any pleasure while suffering misfortune.
okay, sorry my bad, I didn't know things were that different in relation to disability benefits, seems a bit unfair that you can't work even if you can, obviously I believe you should receive benefits if you are disabled, after all you have to live with it and everything, but if you are able to work then it seems like that should be a choice open to you but shouldn't impact if you recieve benefits or not, in the end you still have the disability. not to be a critic though, over here everything is a mess, the laws seem to be different for each and every person and nothing really works
, some people are allowed to work and some are not, as I said its a mess.thanks for correcting me though
in the end a person gets given the money, if they were to spend the money on a phone its that persons choice. shouldn't any issue with the amount of money someone has be with the government who decides it all in the first place?. once one has the money they can spend it on what they want, not much else they can do with it is there?, and really you can't blame someone for not just living and buying only what they need to survive, no one wants to live like that. sorry this is off-topic, I shall leave it there
in england, you receive disability benefits if you are disabled or have health issues, seizures would be included in this, it doesn't matter if you can work or not, you receive it for actually having the condition hence why they are called disability benefits, isn't it the same in america?, sorry, I am not sure, anyway in this guys case it has been proven he does have seizures, apparently pretty badly, he has also said he does work his own hours so when he can I figure, he said he isn't working (atm) and thats why he has a week to spend in front of a apple store but he has said he was buying the product with his own money
of course I don't know how things work in america and it might be different but if he does have health issues isn't he entitled to disability benefits?
Mate I'm not from the US but I lived there for a while. Apparently when somebody that is not on their death bed receives public money for healthcare or disability that is called 'socialism'. And socialism is the reason why England, Canada, Australia etc have such poor medical treatment that people have to line up for 10 years to see a doctor and usually die while waiting on the line. Not sure if it's true, but that's what I've been told.
okay, sorry my bad, I didn't know things were that different in relation to disability benefits, seems a bit unfair that you can't work even if you can, obviously I believe you should receive benefits if you are disabled, after all you have to live with it and everything, but if you are able to work then it seems like that should be a choice open to you but shouldn't impact if you recieve benefits or not, in the end you still have the disability. not to be a critic though, over here everything is a mess, the laws seem to be different for each and every person and nothing really works
thanks for correcting me though
in the end a person gets given the money, if they were to spend the money on a phone its that persons choice. shouldn't any issue with the amount of money someone has be with the government who decides it all in the first place?. once one has the money they can spend it on what they want, not much else they can do with it is there?, and really you can't blame someone for not just living and buying only what they need to survive, no one wants to live like that. sorry this is off-topic, I shall leave it there
Don't worry about it, this thread was never on topic really.
And the lesson I have learned from this thead...
And the lesson I have learned from this thread is that one should always lie about being anything other than a hard-working, able-bodied American
And the lesson I have learned from this thread is that one should always lie about being anything other than a hard-working, able-bodied American
okay, sorry my bad, I didn't know things were that different in relation to disability benefits, seems a bit unfair that you can't work even if you can, obviously I believe you should receive benefits if you are disabled, after all you have to live with it and everything, but if you are able to work then it seems like that should be a choice open to you but shouldn't impact if you recieve benefits or not, in the end you still have the disability. not to be a critic though, over here everything is a mess, the laws seem to be different for each and every person and nothing really works
That doesn't make any sense in your country, in fact it's a waste of the country's money if they pay you disability benefits while you still work. Here in the U.S., if you are currently employed but your disability temporarily stops you from working then you can apply for state help until you get back to work. If you are permanently disabled then you can receive disability benefits permanently but you can't work. The state may allow you to work part time and still receive benefits but only enough to make up for the loss from you working full time.
If your country is paying people for having a disability and allowing them to work full time then that's just a waste of the country's money. If a person's disability isn't hampering them from working full time then the country shouldn't pay them any benefits.
Gah, "Think critically". If this guy is receiving comp for his disability and using said comp to pay for stuff, the fact he is using savings for the iPhone doesn't matter. He's still getting the iPhone on tax payer money from his comp (again, IF he's getting comp). Uh why you ask ? Simple : The comp is paying for something, be it rent or food or transport or meds.
Instead of relying on tax payers and pushing the burden of his financial woes on society, he could be using said savings to take some of the burden on himself. Hence, it doesn't matter which money is buying the iPhone, because in the end, the iPhone is an expense to him and his income is comp.
So the savings comment was pure BS. If he's getting comp, his comp is helping pay for that iPhone and the plan that goes with it. If he owns a business, he's not getting comp, then fine, he can do whatever with his money.
Seriously, the first thing to go if you lose your job is luxury. Maybe it's never happened to you, but that is the first thing you drop. Cellphones, Internet, Restaurant outings. Priorities. Geez.
Uh, public funds to provide private benefits to citizens is socialism. Heck, our government (I live in the most socialist province of Canada) pushes socialism during their election campaigns, trying to out-socialism the other parties. The citizens here believe socialism is a good thing, but then again, we don't have the US mentality here.
And yes, the medical system, at least in Quebec, is pure bullcrap. My GF was on a waiting list for 15 months to see a neurologist for her migraines. A friend of mine waited 17 hours in the emergency waiting room after getting there by ambulance for a debilitating headache. The fact is, if you're not dying or something, you will wait for a long time and appointments for check-ups are things you plan a year or more ahead with your doctor, if you're lucky enough to have one. Doctors refuse new patients because they are overbooked already.
But none of that has to do with socialism. One of our political parties decided to pass a law to prevent a government to present a budget with a deficit. Of course, we had a deficit of a few billion when they did and you can't just find billions in a matter of weeks. So they took the easy way out and cut in health. That was 12 years ago and we're still trying to get the system fixed.
That may be splitting hairs. The difference between $65 and $130 is inconsequential when your income is $0.
Nah, he's just eccentric. What will be sad though, is the 50 million other people doing the same thing now trying to get on the media.
Eccentric? This type of thing is becoming more and more prevalent. It's quite pathetic.
um, no. And exactly what are YOUR medical credentials???
I have a very close relative that has seizure disorder she cannot work because of it, she's on social security disability too.
I happen to know for a FACT it is a medical condition that causes disability. You can take your little wiki-article and shove it.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/941065/
I don't believe 90% of "Medical experts" anyway. So I disagree.
But you can take your cute little frowny-face and shove it.
Wait, so let me get this straight...He HAS a pre-order yet still feels the need to start the line roughly a week early?
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LOL. Nice.
You're entitled to your opinion, we're entitled to ours.
He wouldn't get the press coverage otherwise.
Oh, and KnightWRX's drill is one that pierces the political correctness in this thread (I'm sure only he will get the reference I'm making. but he'll appreciate it).
yes, but to whom are you asking these questions? and do you expect to get an answer from them?? provided once "they" (whoever they are) supply you with these hypothetical answers, will it suffice? will you go quietly and stop peppering this thread with redundant, pedantic posts?
you live in an entirely different country, so what he does and how he does it with whatever funds he does it with has absolutely nothing to do with, nor any effect on, you whatsoever. you deny having any vested personal interest in the issue, yet you can't seem to just let it go...
your posts outnumber anyone else's in this thread, you've made countless proclaimations and declarations of alleged detatched apathy and yet continue to force your opinions, presented as fact, down anyone's throat who dares to disagree.
sounds like you're trying to convince yourself as much as anyone else.
me think thou doth protest too much.
Okay, was kind of joking. In Australia the medical system is very good, although not perfect. But just as good as the US...IMO. Yet great stories come out of the american press.
With regards to the guy buying the iPhone. Does it really matter? If he has a disability he has plenty of other stuff to worry about. He doesn't even appear to have a laptop. If an iPhone keeps him happy that is a small price to pay with regard to luxury items. Everyone complaining about this just needs to chill out a bit.