I heard that you can get into the Canadian iTMS early by clicking the "To Browse a music store, click here" button really fast for 1/2 hour!
Everybody get started!
Everybody get started!
Lazulia said:Can we stop using the word stealing? You're not taking anything away from anyone. It's not criminal...and most use stealing just for effect.
I don't think they get a very big cut from CDs sales (3% or less). I suspect that record labels have alot to do with that, especially poor financial management. Can we be realistic here? This moral argument is getting old...
Lazulia said:Can we stop using the word stealing? You're not taking anything away from anyone. It's not criminal...and most use stealing just for effect.
I don't think they get a very big cut from CDs sales (3% or less). I suspect that record labels have alot to do with that, especially poor financial management. Can we be realistic here? This moral argument is getting old...
Avicdar said:See what happens when a country doesn't get an ITMS?
Insanity.
Avicdar said:See what happens when a country doesn't get an ITMS?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2288274647
Insanity.
Sharewaredemon said:OMG
a Thousand dollars?
please say I read that wrong....
Stella said:Copying software isn't stealing then (see last paragraph)?
By copying software you are risking hard working software engineers, et al their jobs. Oh, and they work hard - with tough dead lines.
I'm not saying you do - but do you consider there is a difference between copying software and copying music?
Avicdar said:See what happens when a country doesn't get an ITMS?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2288274647
Insanity.
Yvan256 said:Nope, copying software isn't stealing. To steal software, you'd have to either:
- steal a boxed version in a brick-and-mortar store
- steal the actual code from the company and delete their version
Copying doesn't prevent the original author from keeping his own version.
No difference between illegal copying copyrighted works, no matter if it's software, digital music, digital movies, digital books, digital pictures, etc.
As I said in my previous post, the word "stealing" implies "taking something away from their owner". By copying you're not "stealing" anything.
I'm not saying you're not preventing people from getting paid for their work if you make illegal copies (because you are, and they do deserve compensation for their work), just saying the word "stealing" doesn't apply here.
Stella said:But defining 'stealing' in this case is just semantics.
Yvan256 said:It's copyright theft, it's illegal copying, it's immoral. But it's not *theft*.
Avicdar said:See what happens when a country doesn't get an ITMS?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2288274647
Insanity.
megabassjosh said:I heard that you can get into the Canadian iTMS early by clicking the "To Browse a music store, click here" button really fast for 1/2 hour!
Everybody get started!
noxes said:Man people are stupid, It's like that piece of cake or bread that looked like Jesus sold of $85000
megabassjosh said:Case in point: U2 - "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb"
Best Buy Canada - $13.99 CAD
Best Buy USA $14.99 USD
Lazulia said:come on, all I'm saying is that it's not stealing, like stealing a piece of fruit. It's not criminal; not criminal, not stealing. So makes no sense. The record label simply has to sue someone and prove that they are losing profits. So on the legal front there is no problem. Until some other judge might decide the opposite and compensate a certain record label.
Now on the moral front, that's another thing. You can moan on that allllll you want!So use moral terms all you want!
dejo said:Hmm. It's copyright theft. But it's not *theft*. Seems a little off.
It's chocolate milk. It's not milk.