Canada iTMS November 30?

[Laurent]

One of my friends said that the nicest thing about iTMS was the ability to listen to previews of any song instantly. iTMS Canada will include the Québec french songs, something that iTMS US nor France deliver actually.

And buying iTMS content online is cheaper than buying a physical CD: it's faster, doesn't require to actually go to a music store and there's no shipping or handling fees (for those of you who used to buy their music on Amazon/CD NOW)...

 

[reckless_0001]

It would be pretty funny if the Canadian Store just mean access to the US store ("you Canucks are all Americans anyway").

There'd be howls of outrage.

We are all "Americans". We all belong to a continent called North "America". Just like people in Colombia, Brazil & Chile are "Americans" too, from South "America".

 

[Yvan256]

I just wanna pay for music, is that so wrong?

Well, there's still those other stores that sell music in WMA (not an option if you ask me).

Also, I'm not sure but last time I checked, there was still stores selling *uncompressed, non-lossy music* on something called compact discs...

There's also plenty of other places with free music, you simply have to search a bit (and no I'm not talking about "free illegal music", I'm talking about free *legal* music). You see, not everyone makes music for money. Some simply make music because it's their hobby.

As for myself, I'll simply keep downloading free music from Overclocked Remix. You might also want to check out Relics of the Chozo if you're a Metroid fan.

Reloads on the flag page seem a lot faster now for some reason... Hmmm...

Well, flag page is back up and there's no Canadian (or Ireland) flag, so everyone went to bed instead of refreshing the page every 5 seconds or so. That's why it's faster.

 

[davey-nb]

Columbia?

We are all "Americans". We all belong to a continent called North "America". Just like people in Colombia, Brazil & Chile are "Americans" too, from South "America".

Well, people in Columbia live in a district of the US capital.
People in Colombia are South Americans...

 

[Yvan256]

Hmm, let's see if all those misplaced caps spell out a code:

CRIACRIACRIACRIACRIACRIACRIACRIA

CRIA ad naseum, perhaps?

Man, I'm still not fully awake then... I was annoyed by the weird caps everywhere, but I only thought "neat, more l33t sp34k". <g>

CRIA, eh? BURN, BURN them all!

 

[reckless_0001]

Well, people in Columbia live in a district of the US capital.
People in Colombia are South Americans...

I realized my spelling error right after I posted. Looks like I beat you too.

 

[davey-nb]

Well, people in Columbia live in a district of the US capital.
People in Colombia are South Americans...

One smart editor is quick on the draw!

 

[Yvan256]

Hey...um...I'm sorry that iTunes Canada store isn't working yet...but I have an idea if you're in Canada...post your credit card numbers here in the forum, and a list of songs you want me to download, and uh...I'll gladly download them for you from the U.S. store...and email them to you.

Oh, cool! Thanks!

Here goes:

VISA
1234 5678 9012 3456 (validation code 789).
Expiration date: July 2008.

uh...by the way...just kidding.

D'oh!

 

[Flynnstone]

I think it's safe to say "There is a ball rolling around somewhere".
or ... the year wasn't specified clearly.

“It's still November; we'll launch in November,” Apple's Natalie Kerris said.

Interesting that there hasn't been a peep out of Apple.

P.S. November is over!

 

[zim]

Maybe it was November 2005, did he ever specify what year?

 

[Yvan256]

There wasn't a year specified, maybe it's November '05

November 3005? Sure, why not.

I find it funny how people didn't learn anything from the Y2K bug. ;-)

 

[Matty-Andy]

Music 2.0?

I noticed that Music 2.0 is happenin' soon... Perhaps Apple, or Canadian music bigwigs decided to wait 'till then?

Apple exec speaking at Music 2.0 event
November 30 - 11:12 EST** Eddy Cue, Apple's vice president of applications and Internet services, will be among the keynote speakers at this year's Music 2.0 conference. The event takes place Dec. 8-9, 2004 at the Hilton Universal Hotel in Universal City in Los Angeles. "Record label executives, music managers, artists, professional service providers, software developers, wireless carriers, entertainment companies, device makers, manufacturers, developers and other high-level attendees will consider the future of the music industry in keynotes, panels, case studies and exclusive networking sessions."

 

[pkis]

I doubt it is Apple's fault.

Apple wants to bring the iTMS everywhere at a reasonable price.

believe me, here you're wrong: Apple only wants to launch iTMSs in countries where they think they make enough profit. They made that very clear in interviews they gave after Switzerland wasn't among the lot in the last expansion round. A spokesman for the Swiss record industry also clearly stated that it's not their fault: they wanted the launch to go ahead but Apple didn't care for the Swiss market. They aren't interested in Switzerland because we we don't use the Euro here - this makes launching the service for the 7 million Swiss simply not attractive enough. iTMS Europe is based in the EU - if they sell to the Swiss, they have to deal with currency fluctuations and tax-differences.
What nobody understands is why they don't just go ahead, sign the contracts with the record industry and let the Swiss download their music in the French, German and Italian stores. Nobody here would care if we had to pay for the songs in Euro. And nobody would care if we had to pay 16% tax instead of the 7.6% that we have in Switzerland - we do that all the time when we shop across the border in Germany, Italy, France or Austria.

But my personal guess is that this issue is, after all, a problem with the IFPI: every country has its own record industry that owns the rights to all the songs available in the respective country. If the Swiss record industry allowed Apple to sell songs via Germany, the German record gurus would get all the money and the Swiss wouldn't see a cent.

 

[Yvan256]

At this point we don't know whose fault it is. I figure these two people should at least be responsible to let us know why the promised date was missed, and what's being done to remedy the situation.

Indeed. Steve Jobs himself said "Canada in november". Well, we're december 1st and still no iTMS for Canada. Worst thing is, no word about it, we're left in the dark.

Can we at least expect a note about it and what's the next "we hope so too" date for iTMS Canada?

How about we know who's fault it is? We'll boycott their music! (all of us Canadian macrumors members! That'll show them!)

... yeah right, like they'd even notice.

Ok, so, no iTMS Canada in november... Now, we want to know WHY?

 

[iGary]

Universal healthcare works extremely well. It has its problems, but it is the best solution yet found to the distribution of health care. The US pays more as a percentage of GDP than Canada does on health care (that's including private insurance), and yet can't provide health care to all US citizens and Canadians are on the average healthier than Americans.

In other words, you are all wasting money on an inefficient system when you could pay less by letting the government do it and get better results overall.

Of course right wing hacks love to pretend this isn't the case. But they they are right wing hacks, which automatically marks them off as idiots.

This is why tens of thousands of Canadians that can afford it come accross the border for American medical attention.

 

[Yvan256]

I don't give a crap about WHY it happened; the fact remains that Apple promised a November release, didn't deliver, and hasn't said a word about it. If you're in business and external forces make it impossible to deliver your product on time, you're supposed to inform your customers!

Well, if I was Apple, and the holdup really WAS Sony/BGM, I'd release iTMS Canada without any Sony/BGM content.

Then, we people ask "where's the Sony/BGM stuff"? They could answer "they're money-grabbing leeches who don't care for their customers, so we banned them from iTMS".

I'm still not happy with Apple keeping us in the dark though. We better have some explanation today (and before midnight too).

 

[Yvan256]

I know they probably won't, but I hope Apple learns a lesson from this. DON'T PROMISE A TIME FRAME IF YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU CAN DELIVER!!!!! It really does reflect poorly upon them.

Well, with the music industry, who knows what really happened. Maybe Apple really did have everything worked out, then at the last second, someone showed up with lawyers to go against what they already agreed to.

Maybe someone thought they could force Apple into something since they had already announced a november launch ("they'll have to agree with us, or else they'll miss their deadline").

 

[MacQuest]

We are all "Americans". We all belong to a continent called North "America". Just like people in Colombia, Brazil & Chile are "Americans" too, from South "America".

Finally, someone else that appreciates accuracy.

I'm always pointing out that we [the United States & Canada] are only 1 part of America and that there are 3 parts all together [North, Central, & South].

I know it may sound petty, and some morons may think I'm being un-patriotic [WTF?!], but this is a large part of the reason that North Americans, in particular United States citizens are often viewed as arrogant and self centered by people from "the rest of the world".

I love this country, but I hate ignorance.

Back OT... so how 'bout that iTMS?

 

[autopilot]

Well, if I was Apple, and the holdup really WAS Sony/BGM, I'd release iTMS Canada without any Sony/BGM content.

Then, we people ask "where's the Sony/BGM stuff"? They could answer "they're money-grabbing leeches who don't care for their customers, so we banned them from iTMS".

I'm still not happy with Apple keeping us in the dark though. We better have some explanation today (and before midnight too).

if they're still in negotiations, they're not going to badmouth them. could you imagine a canada itms PERMANENTLY w/o sony/bmg? that would not go over well...

i can wait for the store... what's killing me is what the price is going to be.

 

[Matty-Andy]

i can wait for the store... what's killing me is what the price is going to be.

I'm hoping for .99... It's a good price and that way we can stick out our toungs at the US 'cause we're gettin' it cheaper.

 

[Yvan256]

Not delivering in November? Boycot iTMS. Boycot Apple. Everyone sell their iPod on ebay. Buy the Sony thingie... bad...bad... bad....

- Boycot iTMS

Not like we have a choice here, eh?

- Boycot Apple

Cannot buy an Apple computer for the prices they're asking except for eMac, but we all know it's gonna be updated soon, so I cannot buy one right now. Not like I have a choice here, eh?

- Everyone sell their iPod on ebay

Yeah sure, and then what am I supposed to use? Something that cannot play AAC but can play WMA?

Bah, anything to keep the forum going, I say.

 

[Raid]

November 30th 2004, what a horrible day for Canadians. Pierre Berton dies, and Canada is stood up waiting for the iTMS. Mr. Jobs, or anyone from Apple, I'm disappointed and I'd like to know two things
1) An explanation of why you didn't deliver on a promise made by the CEO
2) What your doing to fix the problem.


Dec 1st is looking up though, my girlfriend's sister had a baby boy at 2:30am! I prefer to dwell on that rather than the tragedies I mention above.

 

[Yvan256]

Apple obviously believed that all the negotiations with the Canadian authorities was coming to fruition (they even started plugging the Canadian iTMS store on tv)

Apple never had iTMS ads on TV. What you see are "iPod + iTunes" ads, not "iTMS" ads.

iTunes does not equal iTMS.

 

[Yvan256]

Jobs himself said just a couple of weeks ago that iTMS.ca would be out in November.

Happy November 31st, everybody!

I really think Steve's RDF is getting a bit too strong. We should try to stop him at all costs!

 

[macridah]

the 30th came and went, and no iTunes music store for the candians. I don't know why people are giving it negative rating, it was a rumor that other people came up with. Apple didn't plan an event or anything to make us think of any major announcement and then disappoint us. Blame the rumor starters.