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Canada iTMS November 30?

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I charge 25$ an hour for counseling, you won't need that money since the iTMS isn't opening ;)
 
Before everyone complains, remember, during the other launches the store was added in the afternoon, plus the US store wasn't updated untill the new stores were added. No new music for the US store, must mean something big is comming.
 
aestival said:
From the Australian Apple site iTunes download page (obviously been a while since it was updated):



The Canadian page has the same format, but the footnote is at least current (same as US and UK pages, actually):



Of course, even if Canada gets iTMS, it may be a fair while before they update the legal footnotes... but it would be nice to be inserted somewhere prior to Luxembourg :eek:
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THe order of the country listings is different for the Irish site vs the Canadian site
 
I feel like in 1929 when metallica and GNR played at the Olympic Stadium. Hetfield burned his arm and the show was stopped, we waited for more than 3 hours for GNR and after a couple of songs Axl ran away! People were so mad!!!

I think apple has to inform people what's going on! Or I'll break my G5 computer... and will have to buy... another one!!!
 
1929? wow...

steve better watch out, montreal people like riots (I'm thinking of the stanley cup in 93)
 
I know this is hard...

and everyone north of the US border is waiting for the 'moment supreme',
but it ain't 1'o clock yet at the west coast. It looks to me, that's the magic hour most of the times for Apple.
 
ct77 said:
Despite the wrinkle in Canadian copyright law, everyone knows downloading music and not paying for it is wrong.
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Just to reiterate what I said earlier -- there is no "wrinkle" in Canadian copyright law. Distribution of copyrighted works without permission is illegal.

The decision was that in order for the music industry to sue people for distribution, they had to provide reasonable evidence that the distribution had taken place. The sheer act of placing music on a share is not itself an illegal act, and more than say selling a book on how to pick locks is illegal.

The act of copying a song for personal use is legal, so downloads are okay (and the artists are getting compensated, that's why the CRIA collects levies on all blank media).

The act of distributing songs to other people is is illegal. Those people that place songs on a share and knowingly allow other people to download the songs are commiting an illegal act in Canada. The courts have just raised the bar by requiring the plaintiff show evidence that they can reasonably expect the act to have taken place in each case they want to sue.

I understand the media getting confused -- this concept of "innocent before proven guilty" is a pretty strange one to them these days.
 
Avicdar said:
You sound really frustrated - and I am definitely sympathetic.
To be honest though, whenever someone posts a message like yours, they never really ring true for me. If you truly do love your Mac, you wouldn't go back to a WinBox just because Apple hasn't set up an ITMS in your country.
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I would never go back to a Winbox - but I would definitely go back to Linux and use Windows exclusively for Games and for legal music downloads. I'm using Linux at work and have been using it for years at home as well before I sold my last Wintel box a couple of months ago. Quite frankly: It doesn't matter to me much whether I use Linux or OS X at home. Both offer me the command-line tools I need to maintain my webserver and as Oo_Org is my favorite Office Suite anyway, that wouldn't be a problem either. Since there is a linux driver for Centrino NICs now, I can also buy small, sexy notebooks with long-lasting batteries - no longer depending on the iBook for that.

I'm not much of an iLife person: from all the iTools, I basically only use iTunes on a regular basis. Legal downloads are important to me: I can't buy CDs here anymore because the copy protection mechanisms the ones available in the EU and Switzerland have prevent them from playing on my CD-Player. I won't illegally download music - my brother plays the guitar in a band and I know very well how important it is to bands to get the CD percentages.
Now that there are several legal download services in Switzerland, I really want to use them, but I can't on my Mac!

Peter
 
Alright Apple, I'm going to class now. And when I get back there better be and iTMS for Canada, or else.....
 
supergod said:
Is it just me, or is there absolutely nothing to get excited about here? Music downloads are already legal in Canada! ... Quite lame, really.
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supergod,

Even if something _isn't illegal_, that doesn't make it legal or right. Downloading commercial music without compensating the artists is simply wrong.

People want iTMS because it's morally and legally right in one swoop. Artists get compensated.
 
coolfactor said:
supergod,

Even if something _isn't illegal_, that doesn't make it legal or right. Downloading commercial music without compensating the artists is simply wrong.

People want iTMS because it's morally and legally right in one swoop. Artists get compensated.
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Nevermind the fact that it's easier too!
 
coolfactor said:
supergod,

Even if something _isn't illegal_, that doesn't make it legal or right. Downloading commercial music without compensating the artists is simply wrong.
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Well, technically, if it isn't illegal, it is legal... but you're right when you say it doens't make it right. It probably won't last anyway and as many said before, it's not really legal, it's just that sharing a file isn't illegal. Downloading illegally distributed music still isn't legal and most certainly will never be.
 
ferratus said:
Well, technically, if it isn't illegal, it is legal... but you're right when you say it doens't make it right. It probably won't last anyway and as many said before, it's not really legal, it's just that sharing a file isn't illegal. Downloading illegally distributed music still isn't legal and most certainly will never be.
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And as Steve says, it's bad karma. So that means some guy will steal you iPod, you get run over by a truck, and while you are in the hospital recovering, the whole place will cloapse around you. ;)
 
1:10 PM Eastern here, nothing yet... but November has hours to go, especially in Vancouver :D

I imagine this would be the link to watch if you don't have iTunes itself handy--or don't want to bother trying to change countries if you're a non-Canada onlooker:

http://www.apple.com/ca/itunes/
 
Australia has already december, no iTMS... maybe next year with tokyo, the pacific iTMS, but canada today? Steve, time is running... :eek:

Europeans won't see the canadian iTMS news today, when/if it comes...
 
artists are being compensated...

coolfactor said:
supergod,

Even if something _isn't illegal_, that doesn't make it legal or right. Downloading commercial music without compensating the artists is simply wrong.

People want iTMS because it's morally and legally right in one swoop. Artists get compensated.
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The artists are being compensated. We pay a fee (like a tax) every singe time we buy blank media in Canada (VHS, CD's, DVD's, etc.). And we pay that tax whether we are backing up our files or making audio cd's. The iPod has a levy on it as well. So, I have paid literally hundreds of dollars to artists while I've been backing up my files and various other files. They screw us over for years with their levy and then think that they can try and make it illegal to download music. Well, guess what it's not illegal and yes the artists do get their compensation.

:cool:
 
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