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When I pressed on the screen to bring up the settings menu from the Carrot Weather Apple Watch app I get only one option. (to turn on speech). The "Speech" slider is turned on and under that it says: "Join Premium Club from iPhone app to customize my interface!"

If you need to pay the Premium Club subscription to hear the spoken words (like I do on the Apple TV app) then I'll pass. I do not purchase software/app subscriptions. It's a never ending financial cess pool/money pit. I'll pay one time for the app and that's it.
I’m sure you’d love it if your job only paid you one time as well?
 
When I pressed on the screen to bring up the settings menu from the Carrot Weather Apple Watch app I get only one option. (to turn on speech).

Yes, that's the option you're supposed to turn on... Then you just need to make sure sounds are turned on for your entire watch. From the clock face, swipe up and make sure the bell icon is not highlighted in red/pink. The app will speak whenever it updates, or when you open the app if the last update occurred in the background. If you only just turned on the speech synthesizer or you had sounds for your watch turned off, then you'll need to wait for the next data update for CARROT to speak again.
 
If you need to pay the Premium Club subscription to hear the spoken words (like I do on the Apple TV app) then I'll pass. I do not purchase software/app subscriptions. It's a never ending financial cess pool/money pit. I'll pay one time for the app and that's it.

Just keep the sound off on your watch then, like 90% of the users out there. I don't know anyone that has sounds enabled on their watch.....

Haptic Feedback, yes, sounds, no.
 
Just keep the sound off on your watch then, like 90% of the users out there. I don't know anyone that has sounds enabled on their watch.....

Haptic Feedback, yes, sounds, no.

I do (have sounds enabled on my watch). It seems as though the "Carrot" speaks once. Then after it updates, with something different, I hear it again. Mystery solved. :D
 
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I do (have sounds enabled on my watch). It seems as though the "Carrot" speaks once. Then after it updates, with something different, I hear it again. Mystery solved. :D

Yep, that's how it works! Let me know if you have any more questions.
 
I noticed settings for the Apple Watch app aren’t saved on the watch after restarting the watch.

If you reboot your phone, then reboot the watch (which is the order I always reboot my devices after a OS update), upon starting the app on the watch, you have to go through the initial screens again. I then have to open the phone app to reapply any settings/changes prior to the reboot.

I have been able to reproduce this after every reboot.
 
I noticed settings for the Apple Watch app aren’t saved on the watch after restarting the watch.

If you reboot your phone, then reboot the watch (which is the order I always reboot my devices after a OS update), upon starting the app on the watch, you have to go through the initial screens again. I then have to open the phone app to reapply any settings/changes prior to the reboot.

I have been able to reproduce this after every reboot.

Hmm this must be some kind of weird bug in watchOS or something where the user preferences for the app are somehow getting deleted, as this definitely isn't true of every install. Will look into it, perhaps I can save the tutorial flag somewhere else as a backup.
 
Hmm this must be some kind of weird bug in watchOS or something where the user preferences for the app are somehow getting deleted, as this definitely isn't true of every install. Will look into it, perhaps I can save the tutorial flag somewhere else as a backup.

I had the same experience yesterday, rebooting only the watch. And after switching to my other watch, snark is back again. @mrwilly25 do you have multiple watches too? I think @MakerOfCARROT needs some better beta testers :D
 
looks like it's two separate bugs then (the restart, the never ending return of snark after switching). good look @MakerOfCARROT :D

Do you have "none" set for the displayed text on the watch? That's a known bug that I just fixed and doesn't have anything to do with two different watches. The other bug I'm going to blame on watchOS :p
 
Yep, as much as you'd enjoy paying each time you put on clothes/underwear/coats each time you wore them. :rolleyes:
My clothes don’t get continuous upgrades, they wear out. But if I do want additional work done to them while I own them, it costs more money. Funny how that works. Or I can replace them for an additional cost. Nothing is free forever.
 
Yep, as much as you'd enjoy paying each time you put on clothes/underwear/coats each time you wore them. :rolleyes:

You're not getting charged each time you open the app, so not a great analogy. Though funny enough *I* get charged each time you open the app ;)
 
You're not getting charged each time you open the app, so not a great analogy. Though funny enough *I* get charged each time you open the app ;)

So, you are providing a service and not selling a product? That's the way it seems to me after reading the information you've provided about Apple's agreement with app developers.
 
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So, you are providing a service and not selling a product? That's the way it seems to me after reading the information you've provided about Apple's agreement with app developers.

If you don't want to purchase a subscription that's perfectly fine, not going to sit here and debate my business with you in public. Plenty of people are happy paying for the added benefits that come with the subscription so that's good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Does having Carrot use GPS on your phone all the time hurt battery life?

You don't need to worry about battery life. I use a special feature on iOS called “significant location change monitoring”. Rather than keeping the GPS on all the time, it uses cell tower triangulation to pinpoint your location when you’ve moved a significant distance from your last monitored location. This shouldn’t affect your battery since it doesn’t actually turn the GPS on at all, but Apple does keep the location arrow in your status bar so that you’re aware an app is using this feature.
 
Hows your lifetime supply of gas, water and electricity working out for you? I trust you prepaid all of those at 18 too?
If you don't want to purchase a subscription that's perfectly fine, not going to sit here and debate my business with you in public. Plenty of people are happy paying for the added benefits that come with the subscription so that's good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That's fine. I was just asking a question; not looking for a debate but information. I was not aware of Apple's policy.
 
Hmm this must be some kind of weird bug in watchOS or something where the user preferences for the app are somehow getting deleted, as this definitely isn't true of every install. Will look into it, perhaps I can save the tutorial flag somewhere else as a backup.
This is a very tricky issue that I've ran into as well. If you're using defaults to save the settings state or something like that, be aware that the defaults on the watch can get deleted after the reboot, for who knows what reason. Best speculation I've ran into so far is that if the watch is locked, and the app is ran in the background (due to it being in the dock or on the complication) the defaults are encrypted and not accessible to the app while the watch is locked, and that can cause an issue once the watch is unlocked, and the app is manually started.

What I did to get around this is to save the settings not just into defaults, but also into a plist file. So then, when reading them from the defaults fails, I also attempt to read them from that plist file. This seems to work well.
 
What I did to get around this is to save the settings not just into defaults, but also into a plist file. So then, when reading them from the defaults fails, I also attempt to read them from that plist file. This seems to work well.

Good idea! Previously, all of the settings in the watch app were ones that got synced over from the iPhone app, so it's possible I just never ran into this bug before because the iPhone app settings just kept getting transferred over, covering up any instances where the defaults got deleted. The tutorial flag is probably the first time I've stored something directly on the watch and nowhere else.
 
Good idea! Previously, all of the settings in the watch app were ones that got synced over from the iPhone app, so it's possible I just never ran into this bug before because the iPhone app settings just kept getting transferred over, covering up any instances where the defaults got deleted. The tutorial flag is probably the first time I've stored something directly on the watch and nowhere else.

Speaking of defaults, is the default text for snark "Rain starting in 10 min. Sucks to be you!"? It keeps scaring the bejeesus out of me every time i switch watches :D
 
Speaking of defaults, is the default text for snark "Rain starting in 10 min. Sucks to be you!"? It keeps scaring the bejeesus out of me every time i switch watches :D

Yep! This will be fixed in the next seed.
 
This is a very tricky issue that I've ran into as well. If you're using defaults to save the settings state or something like that, be aware that the defaults on the watch can get deleted after the reboot, for who knows what reason. Best speculation I've ran into so far is that if the watch is locked, and the app is ran in the background (due to it being in the dock or on the complication) the defaults are encrypted and not accessible to the app while the watch is locked, and that can cause an issue once the watch is unlocked, and the app is manually started.

What I did to get around this is to save the settings not just into defaults, but also into a plist file. So then, when reading them from the defaults fails, I also attempt to read them from that plist file. This seems to work well.

Whoa! The developers of my favorite 2 Apple Watch apps in the same thread! Be still my heart!
 
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