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iPod touch Chances iPod Touch will be updated?
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Would love a 7th gen with touch id, 3d touch and 4.7 inch screen but highly unlikely. Any update would be great!
So essentially the iPhone 6s. Just without the phone.
And a non-plus 6s without a plan purchased out of contract isn't all that much more than the iPhone SE, which itself, isn't all that much more than the current touch.
Why? Both the 6th gen iPod and SE used the latest chip on their release. If they’re going to take 3 years to update it it’d better have the A11 chip.
Just thought about the 2017 iPad rocking a year and half chip although a A11 chip wouldn’t cannibalise any other higher end iPod.
Sure, the 6th gen iPod touch got a downclocked A8, making it not much more powerful than the A7 in iPhone 5s. And that was just 2-3 months before release of the A9. For the SE, indeed the initial price seemed way too low considering the A9.
Now however, the A11 is much more powerful and advanced than the A10 or A9 even. If we're gonna see a new iPod touch, I'd expect to see the A10 (perhaps even downclocked a little), as that will be well enough to keep the iPod touch around for 2-3 more years.
The A8 was a lot more graphically capable than the A7 though, that was the big upgrade for that generation as the iPhones saw quite significant resolution bumps. Potentially that is part of the reason why the iPT 6 struggles so badly with battery life. An A10 would probably be plenty enough for an iPT, the low power cores would hopefully help with battery life for less intensive things, I wouldn't be surprised if the performance cores were under clocked again, probably even more aggressively than the A8 was (considering the problems being had even with iPhone size batteries). That or make it a bit thicker.
The thing is, the A8 was nearly a year old and about to be replaced by the A9. It's underclocked only because the casing and battery aren't enough for it at full power. It still slightly outperforms the iPhone 5s.
Like you said the A9 and A10 are on a similar level. The A9 has already had 3 versions of iOS. I don't think it's good for longevity.
Besides, 2016 chip in 2018 iOS device? When is the last time Apple did that? Especially when it would theoretically be around until 2021.
The A11 will be last years news soon enough, so I don't think it's as far fetched as you think. But yeah, A10 is a possibility, especially if they release it early this year.
Also the iPod touch needs a new casing, the current one was designed with the A5 in mind and the chips just require too much power now. Terrible battery life on iOS 11.
I doubt we'll see the A10 used in anything else besides the iPhone 7 & 7+ because it is a fairly large and therefore more expensive chip to make. Hear me out here:
-A10 Fusion - 125 mm2, manufactured using TSMC 16 nm FinFET process
-A11 Bionic - 87.7 mm2, manufactured using TSMC 10 nm FinFET process
Even assuming that Apple is paying a bit of a premium on the "cutting edge" 10 nm process at this point compared to the 16 nm process I still suspect that the A11 chip is cheaper to manufacture considering that they would get so many more A11 chips out of a wafer. That, and with the A11 being the first chip using Apple's in house designed GPU, rather than a semi-custom Imagination Technologies part, it means Apple won't have to pay any royalties for the GPU in the A11. All this adds up to the A11 being the better choice if they want to keep costs down, and they can keep selling devices with the A11 in it for another 3 or so years.
Just last year actually, with the 2017 iPad. It's got the A9 from 2015.
Or they might transition the A10 to the smaller process. They've done so before, with the A5.
I suppose it could happen, but I think it happened with the A5 specifically as the original A5 (from the iPad 2 and iPhone 4s) was quite large they wanted to develop a "budget chip" for use in the iPod Touch and iPad Mini at the time. Since then they seem to be defaulting to using smaller chips (such as they A8) in lower cost devices and the A11 fits the bill of being a smaller chip.
We'll see I guess.
I'd be surprised to even see a new iPod touch at all. I'd approve though.
I have my doubts that we'll see the A10 popping up in any other devices because of its large size (125 mm2), but I guess time will tell. I also have my doubts that we will see another iPod Touch...
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Yeah, I tend to agree that the 6th gen may be the last iPod Touch, but who knows, maybe the sales are still good enough to warrant another refresh. A faster iPod with better battery life might drive some upgrades too.
Yep. It seems like this is the only time they’ve ever done this since the iPhone originally launched. Still, since it was just last year it could be something to consider.
Just learned my niece wants a new iPod touch. She has a 5th gen, but she doesn't like it because she can't install iOS 11. Not even sure if iOS 10 is on it.
I see the 6th gen is almost 3 years old. Really not liking her buying such old tech, but is Apple ever going to release a new one? It will be a bummer if they release a new one just after she buys this one.
I see the 6th gen is almost 3 years old. Really not liking her buying such old tech, but is Apple ever going to release a new one? It will be a bummer if they release a new one just after she buys this one.
That is a fair point and something I'd not considered. I think an A9 would be too old to be a viable upgrade by this point, with the A11 though, you can mix and match cores as the software sees fit (unlike the A10 thats either high performance or power efficient) so perhaps that would fit a device like an iPT better?
Really it's 50:50, I'm of the opinion they will as it serves it's purpose as an entry level iOS device for youngsters, people like me who don't want to take a bulky iPhone plus running etc. They're still selling millions of them, so probably making tens of millions of profit from the line, would they really want to just give up a revenue stream like that? I know it's small beans to them now, but look after the pennies as they say...
If they did make a new iPT and it was just a refresh of the current 6th gen, they would probably have to underclock the A11 a bit to make it work. Perhaps it would even mostly rely on the smaller cores and only use the big cores for short periods (during bursty workloads). All speculation of course since we don't know when or if there will be another iPT model.
Leaving out the phone (and by extension, the GPS and vibration motors) also makes it less relatively bulky
Has anybody confirmed that this is the real price? I've been eyeing the iPhone SE 128gb on their website for 199.99. At the bottom of the page in incredibly small print it says
Offer ends 03/31/2018, while supplies last and only online from boostmobile.com. Purchased devices must be activated by 04/15/2018, with at least one payment for one month of service completed to receive account credit; credit applied within four weeks of first month’s payment. Not redeemable for cash, credit or other merchandise. Excludes sales tax. Services subject to additional terms and other restrictions. Boost reserve the right to modify, extend, or cancel offer at any time. ©2017 Boost Worldwide, Inc. All rights reserved. Apple and iPhone are registered trademarks of Apple Inc. All other marks are the property of their respective owners.
There is no other mention of bill credit on the page. So does anybody know if I can just purchase one for 200 or are they going to charge me more at checkout with the promise of getting it back as a bill credit? I don't want the service just the device.
My niece had $200 to spend on a touch. That meant a 32GB. I found Apple had refurb 128GB for $250. I told her if she gave me the $200, I'd pay for the rest. So, I've got a 128GB 6th gen being delivered Friday. She wanted gold, but they only had silver. She said for 128GB, she could live with silver.
