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Firewire came back and there is no reason why AG/Matte (or Gloss) can't be provided as a BTO option.  did it for the 17, they can do it for the 13 & 15's.
It's not good business to detract sales from your high end flagship product though. The lack of matte screen s a deal breaker for some folks who "upsize" to the pricier model just to get it.

Besides... most PC laptops don't come with screen options either. It's the path of the industry these days.
 
Lets shed some perspective on this:

1. There was never an issue with rigidity before Glassy screens were introduced. Adding more weight and fragility is at odds with the whole concept of lightweight portability

2. People do care. And your assumption that it may "confuse" buyers is insulting their intelligence at best. What a weak argument

3. Because matte is better.

To be fair, Lid rigidity was a big issue. The screens warping over time. I would've thought the unibody design would've largely fixed this, however.

Is the panel really glass? How does it handle shocks and bumps?

I'm torn. On the one hand I love the matte. But on the other, the black bezel with glass is genius (it creates the illusion of a screen all the way to the edge). Also colours are punchier on the glossy.
 
let me put it this way, the glassy screen is beautiful when there are no reflections and you're not sitting behind a bright window or light. Or if color critical work is part of your job.
 
The glare does get very distracting on that big ass black glass bezel on the new design. I hate it.
It's ironic how the model where the black bezel looks best, i.e. the 17" where the bezel is razor thin compared to the 15" and 13" models, is the only version with an option to skip glossy altogether. The black bezel is looking lovely from where I'm sitting in front of my 17" uMBP...
 

why should customers have to spend more to get a 2nd rate solution :rolleyes:

let me put it this way, the glassy screen is beautiful when there are no reflections and you're not sitting behind a bright window or light. Or if color critical work is part of your job.

Agreed. Especially if you live deep in a cave.

But how many people are normal and live/work in homes/studios and offices that have lighting and windows LOL :D:D
 
yeah, id pay a little extra for matte screen. Currently looking to buy the power support anti glare cover. Sitting outisde just provides too much reflection
 
To all the naysayers, I don't have a crystal ball. I think the whole Pro line should offer AG BTO options right across the board and I believe  will give us this if we ask. I'm asking. Along with the many others.

The argument that if you want a true pro machine then the 17" is the only option is bogus and myopic at best. .

Yeah, right, just like how "WE" asked for Cut N Paste in Finder? :rolleyes: Don't hold your breath dude. Apple doesn't read these boards and you're not asking for anything posting on these boards more than a friendly discussion of what "WE" want.

I completely agree with the previous poster who said the 17" is the only "TRUE" pro Macbook. That's why it has the Express Card slot and more USB ports, higher res screen and matte option. The 13 and the 15 are prosumer Macbook at best. And I'm not a hater as I just bought the 13" Macbook Pro 2.53/SSD.
 
Yeah, right, just like how "WE" asked for Cut N Paste in Finder? :rolleyes: Don't hold your breath dude. Apple doesn't read these boards and you're not asking for anything posting on these boards more than a friendly discussion of what "WE" want.

I completely agree with the previous poster who said the 17" is the only "TRUE" pro Macbook. That's why it has the Express Card slot and more USB ports, higher res screen and matte option. The 13 and the 15 are prosumer Macbook at best. And I'm not a hater as I just bought the 13" Macbook Pro 2.53/SSD.


I have the 2007 Santa Rosa 15" MacBook and I would say it's a pretty "pro" 'book. It has the ExpressCard/34 slot and digital audio in/out and FireWire 800. You can hook it to a 30" display (dual-link DVI). The only thing it doesn't have is multiple hard drive bays and the ability to run off an internal RAID. That makes the Mac Pro truly pro.
 
Indeed the 13" and 15" MacBooks should be called prosumer laptops now, since that's what they are.

Funny thing is that the best monitors out there (i.e. Eizo) offer MATTE displays. Why would it be like that? Comparing to CRT is just an excuse. Glassy / glossy is for consumers, because it LOOKS nice, but that's where it stops. When you work day and night on your Mac, matte is so much easier for your eyes. Offices most of the time use matte displays. And i could go on and on...

Let's call the 13" and 15" laptops, the "MacBook Semi-Pros."

I think Apple will provide the matte option on these models if enough people ask. Therefore...

Please, Apple, give us a choice. Give us matte screens.
 
At this point I would settle for the antiglare being a $150 upgrade option, which is total baloney, but at least it would satisfy both parties: Apple gets to please customers and pass off this as an example of them listening to customers, call a matte screen a premium option, and pocket another $150 pure profit per unit sold.
 
Back in the day (aka few years ago) it was commonplace to see screen bezel's that were 1/2 an inch think and think "wow that's wide!" but now you can see a 1" thick bezel and find it normal. :confused:

Given the size of the lid on the 13" macbook pro, they should give it a 14" screen.

Yea I know. You're right. Because those screens were 4:3 ratio. Not WIDESCREEN. If Apple was full of employees like you, we wouldn't even have a bezel.

Let's call the 13" and 15" laptops, the "MacBook Semi-Pros."

I think Apple will provide the matte option on these models if enough people ask. Therefore...

Please, Apple, give us a choice. Give us matte screens.


By using the term "us", you are representing the 0.00000001% of the people that buy macs. Just because many people on this forum want them doesn't mean overall. The geek box is very small to the Mac user box.
 
By using the term "us", you are representing the 0.00000001% of the people that buy macs. Just because many people on this forum want them doesn't mean overall. The geek box is very small to the Mac user box.

+ 1, Thank you! And it's not like all the people that bought a Macbook recently are just gonna trash their current machine JUST to buy one with a matte option. The matte appears too washed out anyway, I certainly wouldn't want one.
 
To be fair, Lid rigidity was a big issue. The screens warping over time. I would've thought the unibody design would've largely fixed this, however.

Is the panel really glass? How does it handle shocks and bumps?

I'm torn. On the one hand I love the matte. But on the other, the black bezel with glass is genius (it creates the illusion of a screen all the way to the edge). Also colours are punchier on the glossy.

My MacBook screen was easily "warped". The unibody design only affects the "body", not the LCD lid. The lid is attached to the unibody... so it doesn't get any structural integrity there.

The panel is technically glass made of acrylic. So far, I haven't had any situations that forced me to stay with my back to a large window. Either I crank up the brightness or move somewhere else. And besides, the whole argument about lighting doesn't make matte better. It still will have reflections, just not clear reflections but blurry ones. Lighting is a con statement for both matte and glossy displays.
 
Dear All,

I remember before the uMBP's got introduced, we saw many mock up's of MBP's with glass screen. And everyone was hoping and demanding Apple go with glass screen after the Imac. And now it is finally there we complain again.

Due all respect but people exaggerate so much! And some make us believe that the glass panel is the worst ever and almost not usable. Give me a break.. It are gorgeous screens. I get so tired about those complains and wining. This is how it is. Accept it or buy a Vaio.

With best regards,
Bas
 
Listen to us, Apple. Give us matte

At this point I would settle for the antiglare being a $150 upgrade option, which is total baloney, but at least it would satisfy both parties: Apple gets to please customers and pass off this as an example of them listening to customers, call a matte screen a premium option, and pocket another $150 pure profit per unit sold.

Another poster said he would pay $300 extra for the matte screen option.

Apple, on this website the demand for a matte screen option is second only to the demand to bring FireWire back.

Even the MacWorld editor who reviewed the new MacBook pros laments the lack of a matte screen option.

Apple, make it worth your while to offer this option. Most of us will pay it!

You listened to us and gave us FireWire. Keep listening and give us matte!
 
i think they will add a matte option for the MBP's again....but i think it will be a couple years
 
Dear All,

I remember before the uMBP's got introduced, we saw many mock up's of MBP's with glass screen. And everyone was hoping and demanding Apple go with glass screen after the Imac. And now it is finally there we complain again.

Due all respect but people exaggerate so much! And some make us believe that the glass panel is the worst ever and almost not usable. Give me a break.. It are gorgeous screens. I get so tired about those complains and wining. This is how it is. Accept it or buy a Vaio.

With best regards,
Bas

You know, I don't usually respond to posts like this but you can take your "best regards" and ... ah ... never mind. It had something to do with the sun not shining and dealing with reflections and the like. I continue to buy Apple products because I like OS X. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the glossy screen makes it tough for me to work in some of the places I find myself and my computer. And I wasn't asking for the glossy screens to come to the laptop line. Quite frankly, you're the one who's exaggerating. "Everyone" didn't, nor do they, want these glossy screens. Some people like them. A lot do. I get that. You think they're "gorgeous."

I'm intelligent enough to realize that my opinion, and those of people like me, aren't everyone's opinions. Glossy is a big problem for me. It's not "whining." It's about choice and the ability to be as productive as possible in a variety of environments and lighting conditions. And yes, I've owned both glossy and matte. I'll take matte over glossy any time.
 
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