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Complaints Mounting About iOS 13.2 Being 'More Aggressive at Killing Background Apps and Tasks'

iOS 13.2, but even just 13 in general, has been a huge step backward in functionality for my iPhone 6S.

Live Photo's have become choppy unless I wait at least ~5s between taking each one.

Several apps are dying when put in the background and not recovering unless killed, the most painful for me being Feedly, a an RSS news aggregator.

I've also had several apps wanting location access to stay active (like Shelly), I want them to be active but I don't want them having my location.

The keyboard has become less responsive too, and it's nearly impossible to land the cursor mid-word for edits which used to be trivial to do for correcting a typo or capitalization issue.

I work for a company that produces a native iOS app and we ended up totally blindsided by a few UI changes in iOS 13 that required a rewrite of a few components -- our fault for not beta testing the OS, but it was certainly not expected.

Overall very disappointed in iOS 13, but it probably had the intended effect: My wife and I are both phone shopping now after being frustrated by the changes, and being as entrenched as we are in the Apple ecosystem it's really just coming down to whether we save a few hundred on an older model or not.

Topping it with dropping 32-bit support in Catalina, which I have to delay to keep older apps running, is making it really hard to love Apple over the past few months.
 
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'More Aggressive at Killing Background Apps and Tasks' has been happening on my 6s+ ever since updated to iOS 13.1, so I would say this may not be NEW in iOS 13.2.

Edit: Example, YouTube app.
 
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michael31986 said:
Do you guys have background app refresh on? Also is safari still in your app switcher or you fully swipe it out
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I was wondering this too. I only have Background App Refresh enabled for 4 apps, and can't say I've noticed this problem on my XS. (e.g. I just flipped through my app switcher to some apps I haven't used in like 6 hours and they didn't start up fresh.)
 
emsmac said:
iOS 13.2, but even just 13 in general, has been a huge step backward in functionality for my iPhone 6S.

Live Photo's have become choppy unless I wait at least ~5s between taking each one.

Several apps are dying when put in the background and not recovering unless killed, the most painful for me being Feedly, a an RSS news aggregator.

I've also had several apps wanting location access to stay active (like Shelly), I want them to be active but I don't want them having my location.

The keyboard has become less responsive too, and it's nearly impossible to land the cursor mid-word for edits which used to be trivial to do for correcting a typo or capitalization issue.

I work for a company that produces a native iOS app and we ended up totally blindsided by a few UI changes in iOS 13 that required a rewrite of a few components -- our fault for not beta testing the OS, but it was certainly not expected.

Overall very disappointed in iOS 13, but it probably had the intended effect: My wife and I are both phone shopping now after being frustrated by the changes, and being as entrenched as we are in the Apple ecosystem it's really just coming down to whether we save a few hundred on an older model or not.

Topping it with dropping 32-bit support in Catalina, which I have to delay to keep older apps running, is making it really hard to love Apple over the past few months.
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If iOS 14 ends up being a dumpster fire like 13, I'll be bolting from Apple next year.
 
Hmmmmm, I wonder if a recent failed time-lapse video was due to this?

On Tuesday I was filming a candle burn at a special event for about 2 hours. I thought I hit stop (and save) before doing anything next with the phone, checked email, but when I went back to review the timelapse, there was nothing in the film roll. Very disappointing. I did some short (~5 frame) timelapse afterward and it was working so I wonder if the lost candle footage was an iOS hiccup that lost the long filming?
 
Yes, we've experienced this also, sounds like a bug though, hopefully apple will address it sooner than later.
 
My Amazon Music App (while playing music!) was closed today while I was browsing in Safari...
 
I am starting to consider asking the question ... how does one go back to iOS 12? This seems like a never ending story. Isn't ironic that "13" could be so problematic. Never even considering an iPhone 13 based on this.
 
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emsmac said:
iOS 13.2, but even just 13 in general, has been a huge step backward in functionality for my iPhone 6S.
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Careful - you're going to make Tim's mouth salivate as you come around to buying a new phone for $1k+ :p
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HobbesInVA said:
If iOS 14 ends up being a dumpster fire like 13, I'll be bolting from Apple next year.
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You can leave now honestly..

The stories from inside Apple that people like Marco Arment report (check his twitter) don't indicate that Apple (at the top) are even really concerned about the software quality problems, let alone consider them the dumpster fire they are.
 
It's very-likely intentional, & part of Apple's strategy to try to get more to upgrade to one of the new 3.7-3.8 GB DRAM 2019 iPhones !

WRT iPhones, ONLY the XS, XS Max, & the three 2019 iPhones have a sufficient amount of DRAM to completely circumvent the issue.
 
I believe this is also having an impact on background app refresh. Purging the ram is one thing (causing an app to load again), but background refreshing seems totally broken. An app like IFTTT is nearly broken due to the lack of background refresh.
 
I have not noticed this on iPhone X. I use overcast all the time and it always resumes playing my last podcast as soon as I turn vehicle on - and I use two different vehicles throughout the day one BT and another CarPlay.
I just switched away from safari while typing this and back after a min it’s still here no refresh and I posted reply.
 
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Careful - you're going to make Tim's mouth salivate as you come around to buying a new phone for $1k+ :p
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You can leave now honestly..

The stories from inside Apple that people like Marco Arment report (check his twitter) don't indicate that Apple (at the top) are even really concerned about the software quality problems, let alone consider them the dumpster fire they are.
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I suspect that within 5-10 years Apple will be just a media content company and may spin off its computer division (Macs, iPhone, wearables). Apple is putting too much attention on media and letting its other lines of businesses suffer.
 
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I suspect that within 5-10 years Apple will be just a media content company and may spin off its computer division (Macs, iPhone, wearables).
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I wish they'd start with that sooner rather than later... Start with Macs please.
The ongoing process of them ruining the Macs is excruciating..

If they'd simply open up macOS and support some third party hardware, I'd be on a ThinkPad before 5pm today.

(please no stories about the 90's and Apple doing that in the past. The whole world and Apple are different now. It could actually be done very well and be complimentary to the rest of Apple at this point)
 
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Haven't noticed any issues on my 11 Pro. I even opened up a bunch of apps and used them a bit after reading this to test, put my phone down for about 10 minutes untouched, and all apps were where I left them. I used them more and kept switching between apps but still none of them reset. I guess I'm lucky?
 
I noticed this on my 11 Pro and iPad Pro. YouTube and some games closing way too fast. Didn’t know it was widespread.
 
I've noticed it a little on my iPhone 11 but it dowsnt bother me too badly. Amazon is the worst but that's a third party app so it may or may not be Apple's fault.
 
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I wish they'd start with that sooner rather than later... Start with Macs please.
The ongoing process of them ruining the Macs is excruciating..

If they'd simply open up macOS and support some third party hardware, I'd be on a ThinkPad before 5pm today.

(please no stories about the 90's and Apple doing that in the past. The whole world and Apple are different now. It could actually be done very well and be complimentary to the rest of Apple at this point)
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I'm right there with you. I don't care about Apple Services; it's lacking and can't compare to its current competitors.

Apple Music had 2 outages in the past month. Siri is a joke when it's compared to Google and Amazon. This thinnest concept ruined the Macbook Pro keyboard.
 
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I am glad this issue has got some proper air time on macrumors and elsewhere.

iPhone 11 Pro Max feels like a toy with pretty much all the apps just get out of memory straight away. With iOS 13.2 when I move between 2 open apps one of them manages to refresh. Overall though - RAM management sucked ass even on all iOS 13 versions.

My mother complained to me that Youtube always "starts fresh" whenever she gets back to it.

I feel like as if pretty much all Apple iOS and iPadOS device are heavily lacking RAM when using them, including 2018 1TB iPad Pro with 6GB of it.

This is would be laughable if it would not be so sad, especially hearing all these "RAM does not matter" comments every once in a while.
 
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