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I'm really not interested. iPhone users have been fed the same product with tweaks here and there for years now, and if you ask me the iPhone is no where near deserving of being called an "elite phone" anymore. The iPhone (and its operating system iOS) line has gone stale and I for one wont upgrade my iPhone 4. What exactly are Apple doing to innovate or push through new technology in the iPhone? A 0.5" screen increase, probably a slightly faster processor, little more RAM maybe, and a very boring upgraded iOS 6 that I would consider iOS 5.5. The iPhone no longer offers unique selling points, Android phone are more than capable nowadays and surpass the iPhone in many ways.

They will still ship millions though.

I think you're buying too much into what the Google paid shills are plastering the boards with. In fact, you could make the exact same argument about Android being stagnant and just copying Apple (google now, folders, smooth UI - a little late with this wouldn't you say?). While Android phones are capable - I was using one until I got my 4S last year - the UX is nowhere near as good. Some say JB has caught up to iOS, but the Android fans have been saying that for several years now, and I bought into that hype.

Don't get me wrong; for constant tweakers, Android is great. But once you get past that, and you just want to use your device to do stuff, iOS is king. Here's a recent ZDNet article that illustrates my point very well... sometimes you just have to use both systems to know and appreciate how much better iOS is over Android. http://www.zdnet.com/confession-of-a-nexus-7-owner-ipad-mini-will-blow-it-away-7000002759/
 
i hope by the time the iPhone 10 comes out we finally get a notification indicator led which my siemens from 2003 and every other smartphone is capable off *sigh*
 
looks like the LCD is separate from the glass. will make repairs so much cheaper again like 3G, 3GS. my customers will be happy!
 
The amount of leaks is getting ridiculous.

So rediculous, it's rather unbelievable.

We have aaaaaaall these leaks and no one has gotten with other leakers to put all the parts together to come up with at least half of a finished product.
 
What exactly makes Android so much more innovative than iOS? Widgets? People are drooling all over JB but to me that's just playing catch up with how smooth iOS already is.

What big innovations are people expecting with iOS?
 
Let's see:
  • New screen with several new technologies possible including in-cell, IGZO and gorilla glass 2.
  • New housing with full metal back. 1.2mm thinner.
  • New battery with a different chemistry.
  • LTE
  • First non refresh iOS device with 32nm processor. All rumors say more than just an A5 die shrink.
  • New dock connector.
  • New headphone jack location.
  • FaceTime camera moved.
  • Thinner top and bottom bezels.
  • New smaller SIM standard.
  • Possible NFC.
  • Possible 1GB RAM.

This is the most drastic generational change since it launched. I don't know what else you guys are expecting, and neither do you. Everyone fails to come up with an answer as to what would constitute a drastic change except a huge screen. Well, that's a user preference thing. Not everyone is going to be receptive to a 4.7" screen coming from a 3.5" screen so get over that idea.

I Agree.

I want this now! September can't come quickly enough...

I also Agree! C'mon already! Wish I could go to sleep and not wake up for about 20 days, lol.

MR says the phone is expected to be released on Sept. 12th. I think they meant announced.
 
As to those who want a "radically changed" iPhone, ever notice that companies keep launching "radically changed" Android and Windows 7 Mobile model after "radically changed" model throughout the year, and yet those models, either individually or in sum total, never sell anywhere near as many as the "boring, stale" iPhone?

The most popular phones seem to be the "not so smart phone" (because it's free, probably) so maybe Apple should take stuff out of the iPhone and lower the price instead of putting things in. :p



As to Tim Cook and security...

Apple is claimed to be building full televisions right now and has prototypes at HQ, and yet nobody has a picture of what it looks like.

I don't recall the MacBook Pro Retina Edition 15" being leaked in it's entirety before launch, even though everyone knew it was coming. Ditto the 13", which is said to be in testing right now.

Still haven't seen a complete iPad Mini / iPad Air, even though that also is said to be launching the same day as the new iPhone and units are said to be in production.

And we all knew what the iPhone 4S was going to look like, and Steve didn't die until a day or two before release, so he should have been able to stop that... :rolleyes:
 
I'm really not interested. iPhone users have been fed the same product with tweaks here and there for years now, and if you ask me the iPhone is no where near deserving of being called an "elite phone" anymore. The iPhone (and its operating system iOS) line has gone stale and I for one wont upgrade my iPhone 4. What exactly are Apple doing to innovate or push through new technology in the iPhone? A 0.5" screen increase, probably a slightly faster processor, little more RAM maybe, and a very boring upgraded iOS 6 that I would consider iOS 5.5. The iPhone no longer offers unique selling points, Android phone are more than capable nowadays and surpass the iPhone in many ways.

They will still ship millions though.


if you're a young single male then the newer features are probably not for you

if you're older and have a family then it's going to be pretty hard giving them up
 
Many, including yourself will still purchase it.

This is true and I don't think your average iPhone customer cares what the phone looks like or what features it has because they will line up to buy it regardless. I have said before that Apple could add a new color and a couple of features to the current iPhone 4S call it the new iPhone 4GS and people would still be lining up days early for it and they would have record sales. Apple knows no matter what they do or don't do they can't lose.
 
I'm really excited about the taller screen but I have a question –*when the phone is in landscape mode with the keyboard up, how big will the keyboard be?

If they scaled it up there would be very little left to show the rest of the screen. If they stretched it out the buttons would look funny. Maybe they would add some buttons to the landscape keyboard... but what buttons?

It'd be nice if they filled the space with commonly used buttons (.,-!/) to the front row. They'll probably just stretch everything though.
 
This is true and I don't think your average iPhone customer cares what the phone looks like or what features it has because they will line up to buy it regardless. I have said before that Apple could add a new color and a couple of features to the current iPhone 4S call it the new iPhone 4GS and people would still be lining up days early for it and they would have record sales. Apple knows no matter what they do or don't do they can't lose.

it'll bite them in the ars at some point tho, just like any other major player in the past
 
I Agree.



I also Agree! C'mon already! Wish I could go to sleep and not wake up for about 20 days, lol.

MR says the phone is expected to be released on Sept. 12th. I think they meant announced.

Why would the facetime camera removed? That makes no sense.
 
steve would have never allowed this, and after tim saying he was doubling down on security, i seriously don't think this will be the new iphone at all, we will all be amazed on sep 12th.

attn all! Sell your apple stocks, the company is going under, you heard it here first!
 
I have to say that I do think this looks awkward too. I will buy it even though I would like the screen a little wider and edge to edge if I had a preference. Hopefully I will get to like it as I use it more. That said there are a couple things that I think are important, first off I find that people especially android users confuse the size of the screen with technological advances, I do not. Somehow the 4.7 inch screen is as big as an advancement as the original IPhone was. This is not true, sure I would like the tear drop look but it's not going to make or break what I think of the phone. What is underneath? Apple always has a way of adding a new feature that hasn't been used before or better yet used correctly. The 4S had Siri, the 4 had FaceTime. I think the more important question is what is it this time around for the IPhone 5? This was Steve Jobs last project he was working on they said!!! For all of youse complaining out there about the look, let me ask you something. Would you still be against the phone if it offered haptic touch technology? Something truly revolutionary like that? I wouldn't. I predict that is what will be on the next IPhone. This is why Apple doesnt care the the looks are leaked cause the true surprise is the functional touch technology. People will be blown away. It's better to have everyone focus on what it looks like rather then what the true new technology is!!! My opinion.

After all that I do have my doubts this is the phone, after last year with all the cases being leaked and all the talk of tear drop design I take all these leaked pics with a grain of salt. The true prize lies in the haptic touch technology I believe is coming out.
 
Maybe apple leaked it? But I don't get why any consumer cares as long as it will be a good product. Seriously are people personally hurt there's information coming out? :confused:

Not bummed info is coming out at all. I just find it humorus that apple has increased security and we are still getting TONS of leaks. I wish we had more information in fact. Some info on the desktop line would be appreciated.
 
Let's see:
  • New screen with several new technologies possible including in-cell, IGZO and gorilla glass 2.
  • New housing with full metal back. 1.2mm thinner.
  • New battery with a different chemistry.
  • LTE
  • First non refresh iOS device with 32nm processor. All rumors say more than just an A5 die shrink.
  • New dock connector.
  • New headphone jack location.
  • FaceTime camera moved.
  • Thinner top and bottom bezels.
  • New smaller SIM standard.
  • Possible NFC.
  • Possible 1GB RAM.

This is the most drastic generational change since it launched. I don't know what else you guys are expecting, and neither do you. Everyone fails to come up with an answer as to what would constitute a drastic change except a huge screen. Well, that's a user preference thing. Not everyone is going to be receptive to a 4.7" screen coming from a 3.5" screen so get over that idea.

An impressive list. If AT&T had a decent LTE network that feature alone would be worth the upgrade for me. Much as I would like a more dramatic change, I'm certain I will buy the new iPhone.

As to 'everyone failing to come up with an answer as to what would constitute a drastic change', well, if I had that answer I would either be working for Apple or at the patent office. ;)
 
These leaks are happening because the manufacturing facilities Apple uses are not owned by Apple, not run by Apple employees. The Chinese workers have no vested interest in Apple as a company, no allegiance. To be honest, I'm not even sure if setting up an Apple-owned facility in China would stop it. They have a culture there of not respecting copyright.

The only way to stop the massive amount of leaks is to bring manufacturing back to America under Apple-owned roofs.
 
SVP of worldwide marketing Phil Schiller hits the stage to talk about new iPhone... People have been wondering, how do you follow up a hit product like the iPhone 4S ? I'm really pleased to tell you today all about the brand new iPhone 4S L, it's the longest iPhone yet.

I fell out of my chair laughing. I'm not planning to switch right away this time around unless they give me something compelling. EDIT: I'd probably get this just for the LTE TBQH.
 
Too all the haters: stop hating. The new iPhone will have superb camera, it will be the fastest smartphone ever, it will have a very nice screen, it will have a very durable high quality exterior and it will have the best OS you can imagine.

Seriously, what else do you want?

The gap between Apple and the competitors is not so big as it used to be, but Android-devices are still years behind the quality Apple offers.
 
These leaks are happening because the manufacturing facilities Apple uses are not owned by Apple, not run by Apple employees. The Chinese workers have no vested interest in Apple as a company, no allegiance. To be honest, I'm not even sure if setting up an Apple-owned facility in China would stop it. They have a culture there of not respecting copyright.

The only way to stop the massive amount of leaks is to bring manufacturing back to America under Apple-owned roofs.

It's not worth it for Apple to get into the manufacturing business. At best I think they should be heavily invested in manufacturing companies so they can influence the manufacturers more aggressively than they have been. Some US manufacturer of semi conductors has to first prove they can compete with China and Brazil.
 
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